These two regions already have their own parliaments, presidents and police, but they are weak and they need this type of development support from the United States, the European Union and the Arab League. The success of indigenous peace-building in Somaliland and Puntland is an example that the rest of Somalia can follow. Strengthening their institutions will fend off the extremist threat emanating from South Central Somalia. It will be important for the United States and the European Union to support other regions that are interested in building their own administrations. This will help these regions to jump start employment opportunities and development and to build their security force to defend against a potential extremist takeover. Supporting those peaceful regions does not mean having to recognize them as countries, and the US government made it very clear that such engagement does not constitute recognition for Puntland and Somaliland as states.

^^^Its nonsense there was no agreement. And Sharif has done the right thing. Now lets watch the game.

^^^Garowe-online statement is accurate, the PM is indeed a novice, but is far more educated and worldly than the man who appointed him. The reason for his choice is clear...

Originally posted by Qandali: ^Aryaa Dalabeey waa saxsanyahay, Shariif lasoo gamay Madaxwayne waa, Indhacade Mujaahid waaye, Qanyare wadani waa, Hassan Dahirna Imaam waa, Muqdishuna unukaa iska leh, dadka kalena amxaaro iyo tikree iyo gaalo raac waa looooooooooool

Originally posted by *ANWAR*: BORING!!! PS; old news keep upp adeer.. Boring to you maybe, but old news it is not. By Hussein Yusuf Commentary by [b Thursday, October 14, 2010 [/b]

America looks to Puntland and Somaliland By Hussein Yusuf Commentary by Thursday, October 14, 2010 The United States has been involved in Somalia since the early 1980s, first during the Cold War and then in 1992 during the country’s massive famine by launching the humanitarian mission Operation Restore Hope. In the last decade, however, the United States has become even more involved, actively supporting the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) as a means of building peace in Somalia, which is now experiencing rising violence associated with the extremist groups Al-Shabaab and Hizbul Islam. Yet as the country experiences rising violence, the semi-autonomous regions of Puntland in north-eastern Somalia and Somaliland in the Horn of Africa have been able to provide a greater level of security for their residents than the rest of the country and may provide the key to greater stability across Somalia. Recognizing the value of strengthening and supporting these regions, the Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of African Affairs announced this week that the US government will support Puntland and Somaliland with development aid and strengthen them within a framework of two-track engagement as part of a larger approach to ensure stability in Somalia as a whole. This decision reflects what many Somalis have stated they believe will be effective in stabilizing their country for the long term. Carson says that “the first track is designed to help the TFG become more effective and more inclusive and to give it the ability to provide services to its people.” Engagement with the Puntland and Somaliland regions is part of the second track, he added. The aim of this engagement is to stabilize Somalia and undermine extremists by empowering local officials to provide security and ensuring that young people have jobs, making them less vulnerable to Al-Shabaab and groups like them. Carson also stated that the US government will continue to support the TFG and the current Somali president, as well as other regions and clans interested in protecting their areas from extremists, which the TFG has welcomed in light of the threat from Al-Shabaab. Caron’s announcement comes at a crucial time for Somalia as the group is consolidating its control in most of southern Somalia, and suicide bombings and terrorist acts by Al-Shabaab are becoming more brutal. The violence threatens not only Somaliland and Puntland, but also Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda and Yemen. Earlier this year Al-Shabaab carried out suicide bombings in Uganda, for example, killing more than 70 World Cup spectators. This two-track engagement acknowledges the hard work in peace-building that Somaliland and Puntland have taken on, and demonstrates a concrete grasp of what Somalis want: employment for youth, development aid, infrastructure that facilitates the delivery of services and a strong state police to keep the peace. In the past, the United States focused on providing humanitarian aid and supporting counterterrorism efforts; this policy change allows the United States to not only to focus on these short-term goals but also to provide a foundation for long-lasting change through agricultural development, infrastructure, economic development and security. These two regions already have their own parliaments, presidents and police, but they are weak and they need this type of development support from the United States, the European Union and the Arab League. The success of indigenous peace-building in Somaliland and Puntland is an example that the rest of Somalia can follow. Strengthening their institutions will fend off the extremist threat emanating from South Central Somalia. It will be important for the United States and the European Union to support other regions that are interested in building their own administrations. This will help these regions to jump start employment opportunities and development and to build their security force to defend against a potential extremist takeover. Supporting those peaceful regions does not mean having to recognize them as countries, and the US government made it very clear that such engagement does not constitute recognition for Puntland and Somaliland as states. The US has finally gotten it right by listening to what the Somali people want. It’s time the United States comes forward with concrete support in the form of economic development, infrastructure and security to alleviate the suffering of the people, understand the nature of terrorism in Somalia, and ensure that a democratic system of governance – and peace – takes root in Somalia. Hussein Yusuf is a doctoral student in conflict resolution at the Institute for Conflict Analysis and Resolution at George Mason University. THE DAILY STAR publishes this commentary in collaboration with the Common Ground News Service (www.commongroundnews.org).

Moonlight, I am more supportive today of the Sharif government then yesterday, for I know this PM, I did not know Goonjeex To the Attam supporter, do tell us the favor Sharif Ahmed did you today? You seem rather excited for no reason.

Originally posted by NinaNC: Why history loogu noqonaa wixii 10 sanno ka hor dhacay, markaan u jeedno waxa dhacayaa maanta, iyo dadka IDPs sida loola dhaqmaayo Yeah Puntland rounding up of Al Shabaab operatives and trouble makers is equivalent to the genocide that took place in Mogadishu in 1991, and targeted this specific clan. Puntland dealing with vagabonds, [no children, women or elderly were targeted] in the sweeps before the clean up in Galgala, is a cause for concern, but shelling the Bakara and continued deaths of “Mogadishu Society” is not. Today alone over 20 civilians have been killed in Mogadishu, but that does not matter, Puntland security sweep against Al Shabaab is important? Give up woman.

^^^Adeer kindly dont bring that Attam filth to this thread. Lets welcome the new PM, and dont pretend that you are somehow closer to him, or Sharif did you a favour.

Originally posted by Thankful: Of course JB will minimize this .......... Yeah guys from the same family will settle the score at the persons work. Sure! Maybe there is issue simmering between the former admin and the current one?? Spot on, trust JB to blame every incident on Oodweyne's clan..

Niina simplistic world view is quite alarming. I just told you the man is a relative and you want me to be upset at his appointment? He is also from the clan remember, the one that was clan cleansed from Mogadishu, so spare us the bull. The new PM, will do his best but any failure will not be his but Sharif's

MZanzi Everything is relative adeer. Of course a person I met and a relation of some sort is more important than someone I have never heard of...

Wasiirka kuxigeenka arrimaha dibada Denmark Thomas Winkler & kaaliyaha Mr. Jack Lang

Madaxweynaha Puntland oo dib ugu soo noqdey Garowe 14 Oct 14, 2010 - 5:07:18 AM Madaxweynaha Dawladda Puntland Dr. Cabdiraxmaan Max’ed Faroole ayaa maanta 14.102010 dalka dib ugu soo laabtay magaalo madaxda Puntland ee Garowe. Madaxweynha Cabdiraxman Farole ayaa garoonka waxaa ku soo dhoweeyey mas'uliyiin kala duwan oo ka tirasn golayaasha dawladda, saraakiil ka tirsan ciidamada amniga, maamulka gobolka iyo kan degmada Nugaal oo hogaaminaya qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada. M.Puntland, Jack Lang iyo Wasiiru dowlaha W. qorsheynta & xirrirka caalamiga ah Mud. Cabdiraxman Farole ayaa markii uu gaarey aqalka Madaxtooyada Puntland warbixin kooban siiyey mas'uliyiinta dawladda iyo saxafadda, wuxuuna in badan khudbadiisa xooga ku saaray ka waramida safarkii uu dalka uga maqnaa. “Aniga iyo waftiga ila socotay muddo bil ah ayaan dalka ka maqanayn wuuna ka dheeraaday intaan ku tala galanay sababa jira awgood” ayuu yiri Madxweyne Faroole isagoo intaasi raaciyey in dalka dibadiisa hawlo badan yaalaan oo wax ka qabasho u baahan". Madaxweynaha Puntland oo la hadlaya talefishinka ITN Madaxweynaha ayaa dhinaca kele sheegay in safarada Ethiopia iyo Jabuti ay ahayeen kuwo markasta joogta ahaa balse haatan xidhiidh xoojin ay yeelan doonaan Puntland iyo Yamen oo uu sheegay inuu yahay safarkii ugu horeeyey ee ay ku tagaan halkaas. “Dawaladda Yamen oo xiriir ganacsi uu naga dhexeyo si fiican bay noo soo dhaweyeen waxaana la kulanay Madaxweyne Cali Cabdala Saalax iyo Wasiirada dawladaasi dhawaana waxaan filayaa in Puntland ay Yemen ka furato qunsuliyad cusub sida tan Ethiopia oo kele” ayuu sheegay Madaxweyne Faroole. Waftigii la socdey la taliyaha Ban Ki Moon arrimaha burcad badeedka Waxaa kele oo Madaxweynuhu soo hadal qaaday hawlihii dalka ka dhacay intuu maqnaa isagoo carabka ku dhufatay dhibtii deegaanka Cagaaran ku dhexmarta beelaha walaalaha ah, wuxuuna Madaxweyne Cabdiraxmaan uu ku baaqay in la joojiyo colaadaasi, wuxuuna mahad balaaran u celiyey xubnihii dawladda Puntland ka tirsanaa iyo odayaasha ka hawl galay. Burcad badeedka ayuu tilmaamy in dhawaan la soo afjari doono wuxuna xusay in deegaanada ku haray haatn laga hawgali doono isagoo carabka ku adkeeyey in beesha caalamku ka gaabisay hoos u dhigida buacadda badaha ka tageerto Puntland balse sii wadayaan la dagaalankeeda. Wasiirka kuxigeenka arrimaha dibada Denmark Thomas Winkler & kaaliyaha Mr. Jack Lang Dhinaca kale Madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa isla maanta la kulmay wafti ka socda UN-ka kuwaasoo uu hogaaminayey la taliyaha xaga burcad badeedka xoghayaha QM Ban Ki Moon Mr. Jack Lang. Waftiga QM ayaa Madaxweynaha Farole kala hadley howlaha la dagaalanka Burcad badeedka iyo doorka ay QM ka qaadan doonaan isaga oo hoosta ka xariiqey in beesha caalamka ka go'an tahay in laga tageero Puntland cirib tirka kooxahaan. Waftigaan oo ka koobnaa 11 xubnood ayaa waxaa kamid ahaa ku-xigeenka Wasiirka arrimaha dibada Denmark iyo jaraa'id caalamiga ah kuwaasoo ka dhexmuqatey ITN. GAROWEONLINE

^^^I think you are deluding yourself; this move might actually make Faroole much stronger. But today I am happy for PM Mohamed Abdullahi, his wife and young children hambalyo…

Niinac, so what was important was to make a point to a specific clan? Not the national interest? I got ya love.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: General Duke People need to differentiate between men and institutions, and support for men vs. duty and responsibility towards your country. I am not sure what you are talking about lad, but Sharif Ahmed's incompetence can no longer be tolerated or excused away. .

Mustafa Kamal Attaturk Mustafa Kemal Atatürk's leadership of the independence war The Turkish War of Independence (Turkish: Kurtuluş Savaşı); May 19, 1919 – October 29, 1923) was a successful war of independence waged by Turkish Nationalists against the Allies, after the country was partitioned by the Allies following the Ottoman Empire's defeat in World War I. [1][2][3] The Turkish National Movement in Anatolia culminated in the formation of a new Grand National Assembly which successfully mobilized its resources under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal. After the military campaigns against offensives of Greece, and of the Turkish-Armenian and Franco-Turkish War, the Turkish revolutionaries forced the Allies to abandon the Treaty of Sèvres and negotiate the Treaty of Lausanne in July 1923, leaving Anatolia and Eastern Thrace to form the Republic of Turkey in October 1923. The establishment of the Turkish national movement led to the end of the Ottoman millet system and with the Atatürk's reforms created a modern, secular nation-state on the political front.

Che, Alexanders conquests Hellenized the world from Ptolemy dynasty in Egypt to the steps of Persia his conquest was the birth of what we now term Western civilization, it also stopped for a millennia the expansion of the East.

Funny, I was just told who this man is, a Jesse Jackson look alike. I met him a while back a year or so ago, at the Funeral of his brother in Law who passed away in Minneapolis. He is married to my daughter’s aunt. He is a career diplomat who used to work in the Somali mission in Washington DC before the outbreak of the war. My impression of him was thet he had good manners, was well spoken and quite respectfull.

^^^lol: What about the new modern Military doctrines ? I would add a new name to the list. Gen Vo Nguyen Giap the man who humbled a super power in the Vietnam war.

Puntland will continue to play its role. Also its time for Sharif and his Ala Shiekh crew to deliver, a man who is unable to go to Jowhar can not blame others. The new PM should be given a chance but if things dont work out the buck stops with Sharif...

^^^They were great. What about Mustafa Kamal Attaturk, who defeated the armies of Greece, Armenia, Italy, Britian and France to keep Turkey independent?

Good luck to him indeed.

Out of the two above, I would say the Mongol Warlord wins hands down. However in terms of Military genius, Napoleon and Hannibal Barca are the greatest.