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Mindless Euphoria, what happened on 17 March? NOTHING
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Nasir keep hope alive man, your President was here on a holiday and it went well for him. He went sight seeing but alas not into the UK parliment and gave no speach inside see that was meant to give faith to the beleievers that after 14 years this was it. So keep hope alive, there was no invitation by the UK government and nothing to disclose as there where no discussions. Little Nassir did you beleieve that those backbench MP's make policy over here? Sophist, I will give you a ding later bro -
Mobb you funny. Why is it you so eager to find???? Has the Somliland infatution caught you too. All interest welcomed. Angel all we want is the truth.... Was the trip that unimportant that no outside media of any rep reported it? Come on its the biggest day, yet the unkown day?
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Nasir the Somaliland myth is losing. Riyaale and his hapless group are losing. Get over it kid its nearly over.
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Mindless Euphoria, what happened on 17 March? NOTHING
General Duke replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Somaliland Diid o Dilac Somaliland Ama Dhimo ama Dhus*lol* Is that what RIYAALE was chanting outside the parliment? This week has proven that the secessionist camp are on their last legs. For is they could not mobalise in London where can they? If the so called SOMALILAND government did not understand the importance of this week to the UK [budget announcement] what chance have they of getting any influance or convincing any one of anything? Few back bench MP's and a trip to London resturents is all you have to show, then I pity you and your dream. Abdiqasin who controls a few quarter of MOG was invited to the UN and has a permenant Ambasador to the UN and several others in Arab countries. He has used the Arab and African media and states to full effect, what has your national government even under Egal acheieved in comparison? So dear Somalilanders come to your senses understand that you are Somali's and its time to get over the delusion and rebuild our shattered home. -
Mindless Euphoria, what happened on 17 March? NOTHING
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Daahir Riyaale oo ku hungoobay socdaalkiisa Britain Burtinle-Online,London Jimce, March 19 2004 Waxaa dhowrkii casho ee lasoo dhaafay socdaal ku joogay wadankan Ingiriiska madaxweynaha dowlada iskeed isu magacawday ee Somaliland Daahir Riyaale Kaahin iyo wafdi uu hogaaminayo. Intii aanu Riyaale imaan Ingiriiska ayey saxaafada reer Somaliland waxey fidinayeen warar sheegayey in Riyaale khudbad ka jeedin doono baarlamaanka Ingiriiska maalinta Arbacada ee ay bishu tahay 17 Maarso. Hadaba doraad oo aheyd 17ka Maarso maxaa qabsaday Riyaale iyo wafdigiisa.? Aroornimadii Arbacada ayuu Riyaale booqday wasaarada arrimaha gudaha ee Britain halkaasoo uu kula kulmay sarkaal wasaarada u qaabilsan arrimaha qaxootiga laguna magacaabo yahay Beverly Hughes, waxeyna kawada hadleen suurtagalnimada in qaxooti reer Somaliland ah oo sharciga loo diiday loogu celin lahaa Somaliland. Maalintaas arbacada ee ay bishu aheyd 17ka Maarso waxey ku beegneyd maalinta ugu muhiimsan shaqooyinka uu qabto baarlamaanka Ingiriiska waayo waxey aheyd maalin uu baarlamaanku ansixinayey miisaaniyada qaranka ee 2004. Waxaa aroornimadiiba baarlamaanka buuxiyay dhamaan xubnaha dowlada Ingiriiska oo ay ugu horeeyaan ra'iisul wasaare Tony Balir, ku xigeenkiisa John Prescot, Chancellorka dhaqaalaha Gordon Brown iyo dhamaan xubnaha dowlada iyo xildhibaanada labada aqal ee sharci dejinta. Waxaa dhacday in Riyaale iyo wafdigiisa ay la socdaan dhalinyaro aad u da' yar ay duhurnimadii isugu yimaadaan aqalka baarlamaanka hortiisa isla markaana Riyaale khudbad u jeediyay dhalinyaradii halkaa isugu timid oo la sheegay in aaney sidaa u badneyn. Khudbadii Riyaale ee dhalinyarada reer Somaliland kadib, waxey ciidanka booliisku u sheegeen Riyaale in uu meesha ka dhaqaaqo kadib makii ay qaar kamid ah dhalinyaradii halkaa isugu timid ku kaceen falal aan munaasab aheyn, wuuna aqbalay Riyaale amarkii ciidanka booliiska oo waxey Riyaale iyo wafdigiisu u dhaqaaqeen hotel ku yaala bartamaha London, halkaasoo ay ka qadeeyeen. Hadaba miyaaney ayaan daro aheyn beenta aan xishoodka laheyn ee ay saxaafada Somaliland u tebineyso shacabka Soomaaliyeed? iyagoo 30kii casho ee lasoo dhaafay ku andacoonayey in Riyaale khudbad heer qaran ah ka jeedin doono baarlamaanka Britain, balse xaqiiqadu noqotay in Riyaale laga soo eryo banaanka aqalka baarlamaanka iska daa khudbad uu ka jeediyo gudaha baarlamaanka'e. Kama xumin booqashada Riyaale ee Britain waana mid aan soo dhoweyneyno balse waxaa wax laga xumaado ah beenta uu maamulka Riyaale ka dhaadhicinayo shacabka Soomaaliyeed isagoo adeegsanaya saxaafada aan qaangaarka aheyn ee reer Somaliland. Riyaale iyo wafdigiisa waxey wadankan kusoo galeen baasabooro Soomaali ah waxeyna visa kasoo qaateen safaarada Ingiriisku ku leeyahay dalka Itoobiya, waxeyna Riyaale iyo wafdigiisu degen yihiin hotel ay lacagtiisa iyaga iska bixinayaan. Saraakiil ka tirsan wasaarada arrimaha dibada ee Britain ayaa horay u sheegay in aaney ka warqabin booqashada Riyaale, iyagoo intaa raaciyay in hadii ay arintaasi jirto ay tahay booqasho shakhsi ah. Mohamud Yusuf Garre Burtinle-Online,London editor@burtinle.com -
Mindless Euphoria I for one was totally against Riyaale’s visit , I wanted to stop it I thought it was a political coup for the secessionist lot that the silent majority would be cheated. Oh how wrong I was how naive I had become to think that the “SOMALILANDERS” could pull it of, alas my North Western brothers are no different to us alas they also take every opportunity to lose an opportunity. I live in London and Mr NSS commanders visit did not get any air time on the local radio or TV, who are his media advisors people, Ooodweyn could have done a better job, what happened? Hell you would think the secessionist camp conquered the world showing pictures of our pretty sisters waving the flag outside the British parliament. I remember a number of years back some Kurds of Turkey where demonstrating in the same spot waving the flag for their Kurdistan Republic but these people where real patriots they set themselves on fire in order for them to get attention, the incident was picked up by the local media, so NASIR, SPADEZ AND ANGEL come on we are waiting to see some patriotism so your leaders visit is not in vain. There is a real pattern emerging from the secessionist camp, they just talk, we will get 100,000 demonstrators, we will get recognition, we will become a country we will invade LAS ANO we will do, you get the picture. Fake army of 30,000, fake national borders, and now fake diplomatic initiatives who will wake up this bunch ?
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Good info Bari
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Guraad cheers,
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Nassir, Qudhac and the rest Still day dreaming about Somaliland are we. Somalilanders arguments are trash, you claim to be victims yet you appoint the victimisers as your leaders. You support and cheer for those who butchered your kinsmen and yet you blame us for their actions, you blame Mogadishu and Bossaso and Marka you deport your poor southern kinsmen and yet sing for Uncle Riyaale. You insult Burmadow a simple sultan and sing for Uncle Riyaale. Silly folks, if Somalia is divisable why cant SOOL, SANAG and CAYN break from Hargaysa isent this their choice as is your choice to break from Somalia? [relevent question for Sooyaal] Why is the Colonial borders so sacred and the Somali national borders recognised by the UN and international law not relevent? Nassir and Qudhac and Dust some how believe in Somaliland when its first President the late Tuur obviously did not, when Egal a PM of unity and one of the Architects of the republic did [when he won]. How easy for Afweynes officers to become ministers in Hargaysa how easy for RIYAALE to arrest elders all for the promise of Mandeeq. Yet I can understand Riyaale he earns more than most at £500,000 a YEAR while Hargaysa airport was about to close for £30,000 and its major Hospital was on show for Comic Relief. However Nassir [in need of Anger management] and Qudhac [the brave] and Dust and the list goes on believe in Riyaale and this myth. Horn Afrique, I wonder do you support Somaliland now because RIYAALE is in charge and kinda makes it ok as he worke for the late Uncle Afweyne? Like I said before nothing better or more relevent and real than Somalia a federal or not but a state from Zaylac to Juba ........
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Ogaysiis Muhiim ah iyo Wargelin Mudaaharaad. Mohamoud Ibrahim Jama (Haji) dalmaryare@btopenworld.com Salaamu caleeykum Dhamman walaalaha soomaalieed Meelaad joogtaanba. Walaalayaal sidaad la socotaanba waxa beryahan boggaga wararaka Soomaalida ku soo baxayey warar sheegaya inuu Waddankan Ingiriiska uu booqasho ku imaanayo ninka isku sheega inuu madaxkayahay Qayb kamid ah gobollada waqooyiga Soomaaliya haddaba waxa iswaydiin mudan ujeddada ka ka danbaysa socdalkani. Sida aan xogogaalsaday badankiinuna aad ka warqabtaan ujeedadau waa fikrad ay wataan dad dano gaar ah lihi oo ay ugu horreeyaan madaxkusheega maamulka gobolada waqooyiga qaar ka tirsani, inkastoo dadka soomaaliyeed ee gobolladaasi ku dhaqan badidoodu kasoo horjeedaan kala qaybinta ummada Soomaaliyeed. Waxa kale oo kooxdaasi kala shaqaynaya koox kale oo baarlamaanka ingiriiska ka tirsani jagooyinse aan xil ka hayn maamulka dawladda, waa qolyihii dhowaan socdaalka ku tegey Hargeysa, Nimankani MP-yada ahi waa niman lagu yaqaanno CUNSURIYADDA ku salaysan dadka soo baro kacay ee magangelyo doonka ah ee Soomaalidu ka mid tahay. Waxa kaloo nimankaa intaa usii dheerdano dhaqaale oo ay kula heshiiyeen maamulkusheega Hargeysa. Haddaynu soo qaadanno arrinta xagga Cunsuriyadda/Faquuqa . Sida aad lawada socotaan dhammantiin waxa beryahan danbe waddamada reer Galbeedka kusoo batay nicitaanka dadka magangelyodoonka ah ee soo baro kacay gaar ahaanna waddankan Ingiriiska in dad waynihii iyo siyaasiyintii kacabanayaan dadka kusoo fatahay ee dhaxalsiiyey xataa in shaqooyinkii ku yaraadeen dadkii waddanka udhashy, teeda kale dadka Qaxootiga ah lagu biilo cashuurtii dadka waddaniga ah laga qaaday taasoo keentay in siyaasi waliba isku dayo inuu kusoo baxo oo jaranjaro siyaasadeed ka dhigto si uusan kursigiisa uwaayin, waxa la ansixiyey in sharciga loo diido dadka magangeelyo doonka ah laguna celiyo waddankay ka yimaaddeen.. Haddaba waxa adkaatay sidii loo celinlahaa dadka Soomaaliya kayimid maaddaama Soomaaliya aanay dawladi kajirin la’aqoonsanyahay, kooxdan Mp-yada ahi waxay la kulmeen koox goonni goosato ah oo Soomaali ah oo had iyo jeer utaagan waxyeelada iyo hagardaamada ummada Soomaaliyeed oo ku gabbanaya magic Qabiil iyo Gobolaysi, kulankaasi oo ka dhacay Koonfur-Galbeed London (London Southwest). Waxa laysku afgartay in layskaashado qoloba qolada kale Sallaan/Jaranjaro ka dhigato (Mutual Interest). Waxa heshiiskaasi ahaa Hargeysa taga MP-yadoow kana soo warbixiya been iyo runba isku dayoo sidaad dawladda ingiriiska uga dhaadhicin lahydeen inay halkaasi nabad tahay Dimoqraadiyadi kajirto nabadgelyona ka jirto dadka Soomaaliyeed ee halkaasi degganina uqalmaan inay goonni isu taagaan Soomaalida kalena ay dadkan hore uwaxyeelleeyeen kala isirna yihiin. Qolyihii MP-yada ahaana waxay yidhaahdeen annagaa arrintaasi samaynaynee manoo oggolaanaysaan inaannu Qaxootiga Soomaaliyeed oo aannu halkaa kucelinno wixii sharciga loo diiday ( Sida aad la socottaana Soomaalidii waddankan soo gashay sannad iyo badhkii ugu danbeeyey wax sharci la siiyey in ka yar 5%, 95%-gii kalena waa la diiday waxayna sugayaan dib ucelin DEPORTATION) Qolyihii Baarlamaanka Ingiriiska ka tirsanaa waxay oggolaansho arrintani kasoo qaateen maamulka hargaysa halkan markay kusoo noqdeenna Baarlamaanka ayaay soo hordhigeen in arrinkani laga doodo Feb 2004, waxayna booqasho inuu halkani ku yimaaddo udiyaarsheen Maamulkusheegga Soomaalidiidka Hargaysa, waxaa laysla afgartay haadii aqoonsi raadintu usoconwaydo in lagu siiyo lacag celinta dadkaasi qaxootiga ah ee Soomaaliyeed xerona looga oodo Galbeedka Hargaysa dabadeedna lacagtaa laqaybsado. Haddaan intaasi kaga baxo arrinta ka danbaysa booqashada Goonnigoosatada Soomaalidiidka Hargaysa waa kuwee kuwa horkacayaa Goonni goosatadu? Axmed Maxammed Adan (Qaybe) waa wasiirkii ugu danbeeyey ee Arrimaha debedda Soomaaliya ! Waa ninkii soo kireeyey diyaaradihii lasheegay in lagu duqeeyey Hargaysa iyo nawaaxigeeda ee laga keenay South Africa. Markuu Qaybe hargaysa ku laabtayna waa ninkii soo qufayey xabalihii lasheegay inay ahaayeen maydadkii dadkii Diyaaraduhu Duqeeyeen kuna baroortay. Waxase layaab noqotay meeshii layslahaa maxkamad caalamiya haloo diyaariyo waxa abaalmarin loo siiyey inuu noqdo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Hargaysa CAJABAN!!!!! Ina Ismaaciil Jirde waa Sameecaddi iyo Microphone-kii Maxammed Siyaad Alle ha’unaxariistee waa ninkii Codka ukeeni jirey kana qaadijirey baahinna jirey markuu hargaysa dib ugu noqday maxaa lagu abaalmariyey? BAL ADBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Daahir Riyoole wa Taliyihii nabadsugidda Gobolka Sool muddadii dagaalka sokeeye waa ninkii soo qaqabanjirey xidhina jirey dadka Somaaliyeed ee asalkoodu Isaaqa yahay kuna samaynjirey jidhdilka iyo handadaada taasoo sababtay dadkii kudhashay Laascaanood ee Asalkoodu Isaaqa ahaa inay markii danbe isaga daraaddii uqaxaan qaarkii kalena uu sirdoonkiisu soo qabqabtay ilaa iyo haddana reero dhan la layahay meel ay jaan iyo cidhibba dhigeen. 1999kii Riyaale waxa loo beddelay Taliyaha nabadsugidda Berbera waana ninkii sababay xasuuqii dad lagu qiyaasay 5000 oo qof oo Isaaqa sida uu sannadkii tegay xilligii doorasho kusheegga hargaysa ka caddeeyey Muuse Biixi oo Riyoole ku dacweeynayey xasuuqaasi. Sida aad la socotaana markii Dawladdii Siyaad madaxda ka ahaa burburtay Riyaale Berbera wuu kasoo qaxay Boorame oo udahashayna oo udhoweydna muu aadin waayo wuxuu ka baqayey Jabhaddii waqooyiga soo gashay inay dilaan illeeyn far iyo meel bugtaa is oge wuxuu magangelyo isaga dhiibayLaascaanood! Riyaale abaal marintiisii maxay noqotay in loo doorto madaxa Goonnigoosatada Soomaalidiidka Hargaysa CAJABANNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waxase intaasi oo dhan kasii daran muxuu sameeyey markii hargeysa loo doortay? Wuxuu sameeyey inuu dadkii Soomaaliyeed ee aan udhalan Gobolladaasi inuu masafuris /Tagxeel kusoo rogo oo laraafo taaso keentay gadhi waday 39 qof oo Soomaali ah oo asalkoodu ahaa Reer muqdishu iyo baydhabo oo hargaysa laga soo raafay inuu ku guddoomo Laascaanod iyo garoowe dhexdooda halkaasna ay ku nafwaayaan dhammaantood Mucjisooooooooooo! In loo diido Seminaar Hay’ado Caalimi ahi wadaan macallimin ka timid Boosaaso oo Hargaysa lagasoo celiyey Kadarannnnnnnnnnnn !!!!!!!!!!!! In dib loo soo celiyo koox ciyaartooy ah oo ka tegey Xamar Hargaysana utegey Ciyaaro ma’oga miyaa Sportisku inuu ka madax bannan yahay Qabiilka iwm Badooooooooooooooooww !!!!!!!! In laga masaafuriyo dadka Soomaliyeed ee ****** iyo Soomaaligalbeed ka yimaada loolana dhaqmo si waxashnimo ah oo bani aadamnimada kabaxsan Qaarna Xuduudda Ethiopia lagu daadiyo qaarna Amxaaro gacanta loo geliyo Cadooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! In baabuur hayadeed oo ay qafaasheen dad udhashay reer hargaysa loo xidho lix dhallinyaro ah oo reer Muqdisho ah ilaa iyo haddana ay xabsi kujiraan Fulayyyyyy!!!!!!!! In nin dadka dhaqanka xun (reer qawmu Luud) oo Gaal Swiss ah dilkiisi loo xidho saddex dhallinyaro ah oo asalkoodu reer Muqdisho ahaa Qoodh iyo Xero Laaweeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!! Riyaale waa ninka xabsi ku riday BOQORKII NABADDA BOQOR BURMADOOW kagana yimid xabsiga gudihiisa halka uu isagu dalxiiska ku marayo Yurub, waxa taa kadaran inuu Riyaale diiday inuu la hadlo iska daayee inuu la kulmo Dhammaan Madaxdhaqameedyadii Reer Togdheer ee rabay inay kala hadlaan soo daynta Boqorka wuxuu kaloo diiday in lasoo booqdo boqorka, intaana kagama hadhin Riyaalee wuxuu sameeyey inuu sirdoonkiisa iyo maleeshiyadiisa udiro Degaankii Boqorku ka yimid si’ay falal Argagagixiso uga fuliyaan waxayna halkaasi ku dileen 3 qof oo ka tirsan ehelkii Boqorka iyo Taageerayaashiisii wuxuna ku dhaawacay 6 qof oo kale welina waxa dulfadhiya Beeshii BOQORKA maleeshiyadii Riyaale DHAQANLAAWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In in in in in in ------------- miyaan soo koobi karaa---------------- Haddaba Akhristoow waxa xusid mudan dadkii walaalaha Soomaaliyeed ee Gobannimada iyo Midnimada Dhiiggooda udaadiyey (bal fiiri hooyada soomaaliyeed oo iyadoo Sagaal bilood ah xabsiga ugashay Midnimo iyo gobbannimo soomaaliyeed ka eeg Somaliweyn.com) ee 1960-kii ku hadaaqayey Soomalidi Midoowday Saxalkii Baxyoo samaatay------ Saddaexdii maqnaana waysoo socdaane (Jabuuti, Reserve Area iyo NFD) iyagoo weli nool saw nasiib darro ma’aha ina maanta Dhegahoodu maqlaan Soomaalidi beloowday Saxalkii helyoo Sumoowday -------- labadii sinaadaa sii kala ordaayee!!!!!!!!!! Iyado anan hal maqaal ku soo koobi Karin dhacdooyinka Taariikheed waxa xusid mudan daweynaha Soomaaliyeed Gaar ahaan dadka deggan waddanka Ingiriiska in loo diyaar garoobo sidaynu ubeenayn lahayn Riyada Taliska Goonni Goosatada Soomaalidiidka Hargaysa ka taliya ogaadana waxa lagu muddaharaadayaa waa Maamulkee dadka reer waqooyiga ahi badankoodu wayka qaybqaadanayaan bannaan baxaa waayo waa dad Soomaaliyeed oon diyaar u’ahayn kala go’a Soomaaliweyn. waxa laydinaka Codsanayaa in codkiinna iyo Muuqaalkiinaba ku taageertaan Bannaanbixii ugu waynaa ee Taariikhda Soomaliyeed oo lagu wado Asbuucan dabayaaqadiisa inuu ka dhaco Magaaladan London gaar ahaan Whitehall iyo Parliament Square waxaad la imaan kartaan carrurtiina iyadoo ammaanka aad loo adkeeyey si,ay ubadkiinna ugu noqoto Maalin Taariikheed oo ugasha Diiwaanka Xusuusta halkaasoo ay imanayan Journalist caalami ah dad ka socda Television-ka iyo weliba dhammaan saxaafadda Soomaliyeed qofkii xusuus gaara raboowna soo Qaado Camera aad ku duubato Xusuustaa Qaaliga ah. Waxa lagusoo bandhigayaa Maalinta iyo Saacadda boggaga Internet-ka Soomaaliyeed . Waxaan hadalkii kusoo laayey. Qurbojooggoow ogaysiis Qarankaynu lahaynbaa Qabri loo qodayaayoo kala qaybin utaagane Qaybe Dheere raggiisiyo Qalfoofkii ina Sheekh madar iyo Jirdihii qallallaa iyo Riyoolaa Qasirayee Qasaare weeye midoobiyo Qaaxo weeye lammanoo Qabri aan waxba deeqin iyo Qaaqlayaal is kubiiray Waa qushaashka Amxaarkiyo Qadaadweynta sawaaxili Dar ay qoys wadaagaanoo Uqadhaaba gumaysiga Qurbo joggoow ogaysiis Ka xorooba Qabiilkoo Qarankaa ka muhiimee Qaylo dhaantaa dharaartiyo Kaqaybqaado banaanbaxoo Qofna yaanu maqnaanoo Qaddiyadiinna Mideeya. Mohamoud Ibrahim Jama (Haji) dalmaryare@btopenworld.com
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Recognition is making yeah right same story for more than a decade.. LOL RIYAALE IYO WAFTIGA LA SOCODA MA AHA Waxaan walaac iyo Qoomamo ka muuqata Safarada ka soo baxaya Somaliland Oo imanaya ceelkaa uk ee carada Ingriiska aniga oo ah dadka aad uu jecel in nabada iyo Ictraafka Somaliland hesho kana soo horjeeda mar labaad in aan ku noqdo Somalia haddana waa laga yaabaa in ay inoo keenaan calan kale nimkan soo socoda Calamaadaas wax ka mid calamada qabiilga Taasna waxa ka masuulaha dawladda hogaanka uu haya Somaliland waxa xalaal ah mucaardka Kulmiye oo aan ku dhisneyn Qabiil iyo qudhun afweyne ka dhintay Anigu waxaan ahay muwaadin Somaliland ah kuma jiro xisbi laakin uu olooleeya xaquuda dadka Somaliland iyo Somali Africa Xisbiyada mucaaridka ah waxaan kula telinayaa in la daba kalo meelaha ay tegayaan waftigaasi kuna shirayaan kanaqadeynayaan sababtoo ah in aany eebsan xornimadda Somaliland waayo dad badan kuma kalsoona dadweynahana waxaan kula talinayaa liiska la soo qoridoono dadkii la shaqaynayey Taliskii xumaa ee siyaad bare ee ka tirsanaa Waqooyi iyo koonfur dhibaatadana uu geestay dad aan waxba galabsan waxa ka mid ah REYAALE iyo qaar la socoda oo laga hayo dhigumantiyo iyo sawiro dagaaladii sokeeye iyo kuwii ka dhacay markii aan soo galnay wadanka oo aan ka madhneyn liiska Haddana ii hor boodaya oo leh MADWEYNAAN BAAN AHAY WASIIKII BAAN AHAY GOOTIDIDII BAAN AHAY MUCAARIID BAAN AHAY Walaalayaal ka akhriso liiska kana baadhbaadho haddii ay jiraan Qabiilka aad ka soo jeedaa qorba jooga soona bixi doona intii aanay iman waftigu meel kasta aad joogtaan si deg deg ah laa soo gubinayaa wixii war iyo wacaal ah Waxaan kula talinayaa dadka dulman ee ka soo jeeda Sool iyo Sanaag bari Cayn iyo Togdheer Saxiil HA WERWERIN WARAABOW WAX BAAN KU OGAHAY WIIKAN DABADEEDE Waxaan kula Talinayaa Dadka Taabac san Boqor Cimaan Aw Maxamuud In ay soo Ceshedaan Sharaftii iyo wanaagkii ay ku lahaayeen SOMALILAND ee Reer Jaamac waal ma ogtahay in Suldaankii Samaroona 22 askari iyo laan- guruusar lagu ilaaliyo oo ku daanshadaanshoonayo xaradda birjeex amarkana Siiya Sulaanada kale Ma ogtay in uu Madaxdooyadana ka quraacdo maalintiina ku qayilo guriga Ismaciil yare shaah fiicana uu kario Habeenkiina ku caraabo Magaalada Boorame kuwii iidoona qosol jaanta wadheen in kastoo uu boqor buur madow Xasbsiga liita ku cabayo waa tii wuu lahaa xaaji Aden Afqalooc WARQAD JANANKU TEEB KUGU QORAY GAABUL KUGU TUUR Waxaasi waa wax la yaqyaqsoodaa mar hadduu beeshaas xukumo ninka saldhiga biliiska haystaa ee Hargeysa in kastoo uu idin ka fog yahay xadhiga yaala hargeysa ama godobta taa gabaykiina waa idin haystaa GUN WAA LOO MASHXARADAA markaa si fiican uu soo dhoweeye Madaweynaha Afar gobol baa geeliinuu daaqaa iska soo wareejiya hubka aan la soo baxee boqorka dulman ee xaq uu dirirka ah ama durbaanka daba qaada Riyaale Mushxaradana sida naaga ha ula qosla AFARTAA HH DA IN TAAN KA DEYEY HILIN MAQAAD SIIYEY waxaan ku Goobayaa ilaahay in uu in siiyo wanaag iyo kayr nabad dadkeenuna in helaan Ictraaf SOMALILAND adiguna uu hagaabso oo raka badh la hadh Walaalayaal dadka moodaya in ingriisku in siinayo Ictiraaf hada ma aha Laakin waa soo sodaa wafitigana ku xidhina jiraanka Somaliland markaa MA DIDEE HARGOOLOOW HAYGU TUMIN DURBAANADA Yoonis –tuug l/h buuro hoostood baale wacay baale88@hotmail.com
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Qudhac,AKA Mr Big Farah what you threatening me now? You are a joke little boy you aint gonna get no recognition for your clan state and I will have my say no matter whatlittle threats come from some dillusional clan patriot. Let me ask you something is this type of threat the one Nassir, Ayoub and Ooodwey have been making for months about LA? Or is it simmilar to the one the sea men make outside resturents? Anyhow lets be clear to hell with Riyaale and his little crew this is a democracy [uK] and I will dance demonstrate as i feel like and there is nothing you, Riyaale or your clan can do capish
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Demonstration Against Riyaale Socdaalka Riyaale ee UK Waxaa la filayaa in Mr. Riyaale oo ah qabqable dambile ah iyo kooxda uu hoggaamiya ee Waqooyi Galbeed Somalia ka arimasa, in ay booqosho rasmi ah ku yimaadaan dalkan Ingiriiska asbuucaan iyagoo la kutubaya 'boorso weyn' oo been ah iyo waxlaga xishoodo si ay citiraaf ku helaan. Sida xaqiiqdaa ma habooneyn in Mr Riyaale iyo kooxdiisa lagu casumi wadankan laakiin ahayd in lagu yiraahdo ' waryaa orodoo teg madasha shirweynaha Soomaalida ee kasocda Kenya, laakiin waa aduunyo walaaqan oo malaha gabaabsi si ah. Haddaba maxaa lagudboon waxgaradka Soomaaliyeed ee degan UK oo jecel nabadda iyo midnimada Somalia. Waxaan soo jeedin lahaa inla fuliyo arrimahan:- 1. Inla abaabulo mudaharaad xoogleh oo lagu muujinayo shucuurta iyo dareenka ummadda Soomaaliyeed 2. In warqad cabashaa lageeyo 10 Down Street 3. In lala xiriiro MPs iyo councillors 4. In si xoogleh loo adeegsado saxaafadda Ugu dambaytii, socdaalkan Riyaale iyo kooxdiisu waxay dhegxumo ku yihiin ummadda Soomaaliyeed meel ay joogtaba, waana tilaabo laga yaabo in ay dhibaato abuurto. Socdaalkan kooxdan kasocta Hargeisa, ma ahan tu xambaarsan hadaf caafimaad qaba ee ka turjumaya danaha iyo masaalixda umada Soomaaliyeed oo ay hore iyo haddaba halboowlaha goo'yeen canaasiir isbiirsatay. U istaag oo ilaali midnimada umadaada iyo dalkaaga Wabilaahi Towfiiq H. Shirwa Wiillahelay Aaqil hassheek@yahoo.co.uk
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Baaq Mudaaharaad lagu muujinayo ka soo horjeedka gooni u goosiga Somaliland Baaq Mudaaharaad lagu muujinayo ka soo horjeedka gooni u goosiga Somaliland Waxa dhamaan loogu baaqayaa dadweynaha Somaaliyeed ee jecel midnimada iyo wada jirka ummada Soomaaliyeed in ay u diyaargaroobaan mudaaharaad balaadhan oo dhan ka ah gooni u goosadka, xiliga uu Daahir Riyaale soo gaadho magaaladda London. Walaalayaal waa in aynu muujinaa in aan ummada Sooomaaliyeed raali ka ahayn kala go'. Waxa mar labaad loogu baaqayaa dadweynaha Somaliyeed in ay u diyaargaroobaan mudaaharaadkan balaadhan. aynu muujino dareenkeena. Allaa Mahad leh. hanad muuse dhoobir@yahoo.com
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Spadez, you can talk your whole nation is built on clanism
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THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF UNITED SOMALIA Sooyaal who are they and how do you know their choice? If any clan can break up have you thought of the consequences this will have? Sooyaal and Horn and all the others so called nationalist why so quite, is it not your flag people bur? Is it not your people that are deported from their land is it not your country and its history thats being defamed? For me on the contrary its about RIYAALE we will oppose RIYAALE and this group of thugs from destroying the Somali nation. Rahima, sis there are no internationally recognised borders within the Somali republic, that border was created in 1943 and died in 1960 so whats so sacred about it? Or are the Colonials our true blue print to nationhood? What about 1960-91 ? do we forget that all? And do you believe that Somali people have real differences that we need new countries? Somalilanders Remember the late Egal's visit to Washington what happened then nothing and what will happen now nothing. However Somaliland's propoganda should be met head on and it will. Now we know there is no 30,000 troops and military of any kinds its time to finish this other myth of Britian will recignise us. And for this group to come to the table, its time to end this slow death of our own people. Peace and Long live Somalia
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Sooyaal, Its up to you if you have fallen for the secesionist line however Riyaale and his crew are misleading the people of the north west THEY where part of those who killed and maimed the people of the north west and yet southerners are blamed collectively. Riyaale and his group are using the dead victims of the war to further their own ends. This is what I am against. Somaliland has no right under any law to secede thats why it has not been recognised thus far. We will stress the facts yes there where victims in the north west under Siyad, yes there was clan baised under Siyad and even before but no it was not the "south" but the system in which the leaders some are dancing to took part in. So Sooyaal be consistent, if you like Somalinimo then you cant like the Somaliland phantom Republic. And not everyone in former British Somaliland are for secession, ask Professor's Samatar, ask Galayr ask Kallun as k Gallib or Buba ask the people in Las Ano and have a referendum with the UN present but hey little old Sooyaal knows better right? We will have our say trust me thats a promise Save Somali unity
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Heart breaking may Allah forgive us all for letting our people down. I remember that time it was the worst period in my life when every day you see childeren and mothers die on the 9 oclock news and all you can do is turn away.
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Rihima Why on earth do you guys care about whether or not Somaliland wants to secede ? Why not just accept and move on with rebuilding what we have left? Maybe your energies would be best used on that. Sister, the issue is unilateral break up of a region without any due process. There is no basis under any law for Somaliland to secede. Second think of the dire implications [sool & Sanag] and the fact that Riyaale's regime have shown they are just like their brothers in the south, currupt[1/2 million dollar salary] cruel [suldan Burmadow] and incompetent. I am totaly against the argument of the North West, if they want autonomy they can get it but to break away for no other reason than the messaging of clan ego is wrong and the Britiash government sould be reminded of the EU,UN,AU Arab league stance on the unity territorian integrity of Somalia. Peace sister, all we will do is highlight this to the relevent authorities and put across our case thats all the rest will be history. On a final note agree with Rahima its important that Somali's in the diaspora work hard to rebuild our homeland and most importantly to rebuild its image. Abu Amar
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Wanted for war crimes in Canada [Horn Check for your name mate]
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The British government should ask RIYALE why a traditional elder is being held in custody. ................................................................................ "The case against Boqor Burmadow: Impertinence and Defamatory" Defence Counsel - Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 20:58 Hargeisa (AllPuntland) – Details of the case against the jailed traditional leader, Boqor Osman Aw Mohamoud “Burmadow” were released a couple of days ago by the Plaintiff's Solicitor for the first time since his arrest a few months ago in Hargeisa, Northwest Somalia (Somaliland). Published in one of the local newspapers in Hargeisa, Mr Roble Michael representing the Plaintiff challenged accusations levied against his client while slamming what he called “the heavy-handedness and excessive use of intensity with which the government deals in civil cases” The case against Boqor Burmadow according to the defence Counsel hinges upon two counts in reference to articles 208 and 220 cited “as were” from Somalia’s legal doctrine under the military regime of Mohamed Siyad Barre. a) Article 220 deals with “debauching the image of, offending or defaming the President” Under this article, the defence Counsel questions the legality, and under what conditions could a citizen be accused of defaming the character and image of the President. It is suggested that the case by the government in large proportion hinges on the provisions and stipulations of the above article. It is also argued that any law that attempts to muzzle, or penalize citizens for expressing adverse views, or portraying the President in bad light, is unconstitutional and undemocratic. It is noteworthy that Dahir Riyaale Kahin, Somaliland’s current President was a colonel in the notorious NSS (National Security Services) under the dictatorial regime of the former republic of Somalia, and is alleged to have committed crimes against humanity in Berbera between 1988-1990 – persecution, unlawful imprisonment and use of excessive force against innocent civilians who rioted against the then military regime. It was deemed criminal, under the then administration, and “a crime against the nation” to question the President, let alone portrays him in a negative light. b) Article 208 provides “raising fear in public when at war, and beguiling the Nation”. Mr Michael further argues, under this article that conditions under which “Somaliland” could be classified as being "in a time of war" could be construed under the constitution only by the Parliament and the House of Guurti [Traditional Leaders], and therefore is not solely at the government’s discretion to spin it unjustly in support of its case. The government here argues that Boqor Burmadow revealed sensitive information concerning Riyaale and his administration’s contributions, financial as well as military, to the political conflict in the neighbouring Puntland State, which Boqor Burmadow along with Sultan Abdisalam Saeed successfully mediated early last year. It was claimed at the time that Riyaale was against the mediation, and the fallout between Boqor Burmadow and Riyaale was conceived thereafter. And by giving interviews which technically criticised the government for abandoning diplomatic recommendations while opting for violent means to resolving the Sool, Sang & Ayn issue, Boqor Burmadow was accused of planting seeds of doubt and fear in the minds of the general public. The statement further illustrates the case against Boqor Burmadow in that it lists main points considered at the cornerstone of the Government's case. It highlights that the Plaintiff is alleged to have: a) Deliberately endangered the security of the nation by handing over weapons, ammunitions and explosives to the opposition forces of Gen. Adde Muse whose forces set up stations in El-Afweyn in western Sanag. Here, the statement establishes that the said weapons, ammunitions and explosives had been given to Gen. Adde and his militia by Somaliland government to prolong the conflict in Puntland State. It is argued, contrary to the allegations, that Boqor Burmadow indeed advised the government not to provide weapons, ammunitions and explosives to the opposing army of Gen. Adde, suggesting that once the two sides reached an agreement, they could turn around and use the weapons against Somaliland. The government on its part argues that Boqor Burmadow was ordered to retrieve the weapons subsequent to a reconciliatory agreement reached between the Puntland parties, and that he desisted, and on such grounds, the Plaintiff endangered the security of the nation. b) Advocated for a peaceful resolution to the conflict between Puntland and Somaliland over the disputed regions of Sool, Sanag & Ayn. The statement asserts as indicative of the documents and videos presented that the Plaintiff advocated for peaceful resolution to the conflict. “Before going to war in order to secure the borders, let us explore peaceful means” Burmadow advised in the interviews. “I could be of assistance in the negotiations. And we do not want the matter to be turn into a tribal war between clans inhabiting in Sool & Sanag [his Habar Jeclo clan against and the ***** of ***** ]” he argued. It is alleged that Boqor Burmadow knowingly mislead the general public, divulged national secrecy and exploited the weaknesses of the people by going public with sensitive information and agreements between him and Riyaale. It is believed that the people of Northwest Somalia would not have sanctioned a war between the neighbouring regions had they known the facts over which their government was staging the war, yet the government in Hargeisa was, and it still is, determined to go to war despite all the odds being stacked against it. Defence Counsel points out that as a citizen Boqor Bumadow has every right to advocate for that, and for what he considers to be in the best interest of the nation, as many citizens share that view. And finally, the Plaintiff is accused of c) Disclosed terms of secret contracts and business dealings between an American firm, namely Red Sea and the Somaliland government. Boqor Burmadow is also accused of publicly speaking of secret contracts between Somaliland and the abovementioned US firm. The contract brokered by Ismai'l Omar Ghelle, the President of Djibouti is said to give the US firm fishing rights and land usage. The finer details of the agreement, and who are the benefactors, its monetary value, and ramifications of its dealings are no fully known. It is claimed that the firm will undertake a project which is said to connect the ports of Jibouti to Berbera to which Boqor Burmadow spoke against. The defence Counsel concludes in its statement by speaking against the misuse of authority and inherent nostalgic behaviour of militaristic rule and dictatorial systems of governance in curbing freedom of expression and civil liberties on the part of the government – the kind the military regime of Somalia was famous for. Judging from how the constitution is being abused and the rule of law distorted, he added the country is unfortunately manned by the remnants of the military regime and people of that generation. Unprecedented in the post-civil war Somali history where traditional leaders have taken a centre stage in assuming the position of government as well as that of peace brokers after the collapse of State institutions, the case of Boqor Burmadow is perceived as challenging the customary role of traditional elders and their leadership as there hardly is a law that specifically defines tasks they could, or could not presume. As disconcerting as the nature of the case is, the resolve on the part of the general public is admirable as violent uprising had not engulfed the region despite clashes resulting in deaths and injuries between government forces and supporters of Boqor Burmadow in Derarweyne and Karin early this week. Peaceful demonstrations calling for the release of Boqor Burmadow are being organised in towns and villages in Togdheer and western Sanag. A former SNM general who wishes to remain anonymous told our reporter in Buroa that senior SNM officers, mainly of Haber Jeclo clan are now regrouping in El-Afweyn and Dararweyne environs. Militias initially dispatched to the frontline to fight against Puntland State police forces in Sool, Sanag & Ayn are now rethinking the purpose of a war which only serves the political schema of the ruling party. Boqor Burmadow’s arrest perceived illegal, unconstitutinnal, and undemocratic in many corners is believed to have further widened the gap between the opposition and the government. The officer noted that supporters of Boqor Burmadow have been organizing themselves and strategizing in Togdheer and Sanag since Boqor Burmadow’s illegal arrest. Efforts to avert further clashes are being made by traditional leaders, even though they seem to have given up on the issue as their role has been marginalised.
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WANTED FOR WAR CRIMES Siyad Barre's regime members wanted in Canada make sure your name is not there bro Here are 20 of the 62 wanted war criminals named on an internal list compiled last summer. They were supposed to be deported from Canada but they never were. Although some have since been picked up, Canadian authorities have no idea where the others are hiding. SOMALIA Ahmed Hussein Abdurahman: Somalia's minister of defence. His troops massacred up to 400 opponents at demonstrations. He was also justice minister and attorney-general in the regime of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. When he came to Canada in 1993, he said he was an "administrator." Ahmed Abdulkadir Aden: A member of the Red Berets, which a Federal Court judge ruled "was an organization principally directed to a limited and brutal purpose, that is, to terrorize the people of Somalia." Khalif Mohamed Duale: A diplomat for the Siad Barre regime. He was ruled to have been an influential government official complicit in war crimes. Adem Hersi Esse: Former Somali ambassador to the United Arab Emirates. Mohamed Farah: Former Somali diplomat who sought sanctuary in Canada. Mohamed Gaashan: A former vice-minister of health, finance and labour in Somalia in the 1980s during the reign of Siad Barre. After the collapse of the Siad Barre regime, he moved to Toronto and disappeared. Yussuf Abdi Ibrahim: He was deemed a war criminal because he had been a senior official in the Siad Barre regime. He was ordered to report to the IRB for an inquiry on Nov. 9, 1994, but never showed up and has not been seen since. Mohamud Mohamed: A former colonel in the Somali army who fled to Canada. Guled Mohamed Siad: The son of Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, he served as a diplomat in his father's regime and was vice-chairman of the Somali Petroleum Agency.
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London,06-03-04 Sabti:-Dadweynaha Soomaalida ah ee ku dhaqan Dalka Ingiriiska Gaar ahaana Magaalada London ayaa waxa ay abaabul ugu jiraan sidii ay u soo qorshayn lahaayeen bannaanbax aad u Balaadhan oo lagaga Soo horjeedo Booqashada Riyaale uu ki imanayo Dalka Ingiriiska. Booqashadan Riyaale ayaa la sheegayaa in aanay dawlada Ingiriisku wax shaqo ah ku lahaynn oo ay casuumeen hay'ado NGO Ah, waxaana la sheegayaa in tigidhada iyo kharashka ku baxaya safarkan ay bixiyeen oo ay qaadhaameen maalqabeeno ay ka mid yihiin Ninka Iska leh Shirkada Xawaalada ee Dahabshiil , Ina Boodhle,ninka iska leh Huteelka Ambastoor, Indha Deero iyo Rag kale oo badan. Warar xog-ogaala ah ayaa waxa ay sheegayaan in ay doonayaan Riyaale iyo Kooxda la socotaa in ay safarkan ku kala bixiyaan gobolo badan oo ka tirsan Ingiriiska, si ay gacan maris u soo sameeyaan, markii uu istaagay dhaqdhaqaaqii ganacsi , gaar ahaan xoolaha nool iyo bagaashkii oo siyaasad xumida Riyaale isku taagay. Mudaharaadadan ayaa waxa qaybweyn ka qaadan doona dadka Soomaalidaha ee ku dhaqan Dalka Ingiriiska iyaga oo ka hortagaya in lama jara habaabiyo ra'yal caamka Ingiriiska, waxaana hadda socda shirar lagu abaabulayo Mudaharaadkaas, iyada oo ay hormoodka yihiin mudaharaadkan jaaliyada u dhalatay Gobollada Sool, Sanaag Iyo Cayn, oo doonaya in ay muujiyaan in ay midnnimada Ummadda Soomaaliyeed tahay mid Muqadas ah. Magaalada London ayaa waxaa iyaguna abaabul ka wada , qomiyada ka soo jeeda beelaha *****, oo iyaguna u ololaynaya in ay qabtaan muddaharaadyo lagu taageero imaatinka Riyaale, waxayna culayska Saareen sidii ay dad aad u tiro badan u soo jiitaan iyaga oo Kharash aad u tiro badan adeegsanaya oo ay bixiyeen ganacsadata ay Hormoodka ka yihiin , Ina Boodhle iyo Dahabshiil. Waxaana ay dadka Telefoonada Mobilka aha ama kuwa gacanta lagu qaato u dirayaan dhanbaalo, ay kaga codsanayaan in ay kala soo qaybgalaan Dibad baxaas. London