People get upset, this is tragedy and the culprits should be broguht to justice.. Otherwise it will create more unnecessary hatred.

^^^If Xiin was in there even I would support.

^^^They should ahve covered this story though, because most Somali's will hear about it through word of mouth...

^^^Nice pics, thanks mate.

Give us the structure of the courts leadership Mr Red Sea? Are they a somali movement or a clan movement, even Aydeed had various men in his government, Tuur, Omar Jess and so on. Head: Xasan Dahir Aways Deputy: Sharif Ahmed Deputy: Suuley Deputy: A/Raxman Jinagow Security: Yusuf Inda Cade Fiannace: Abdulkadir Abukar Cadaan Foreign affairs chief: Prof Cadow Information: Head of Al-Shabaab: Adan XashiCayrow.

Taliyaha Ciidamada Daraawiishta Puntland oo ka hadlay Xaalada Amaan ee Gaalkacyo Last Updated::2006-10-31 14:49:50 Gaalkacyo:- Taliyaha Ciidamada daraawiishta DGPL C/laahi Cali Mire (Carays) ayaa saaka waxa u faahfaahin dheeraad ah ka bixiyay arrimaha nabad galyada gobolka. Mudane Carays oo waraysi gaar ah siiyay Shabakadda warbaahinta ee Radio Gaalkacyo ayaa waxa u sheegay in xaaladda nabad galyada gobolku ay aad u wanaagsan tahay, waxa uu intaasi daray in ay lagama maarmaan ay tahay in sidaasi laga sii xoojiyo. Taliyaha oo wax laga waydiiyay kulan uu la yeeshay Xill. Cismaan Xasan Cali ( Caato) Mar uu gaalkacyo yimid waxa uu ku saabsanaa ayaa waxa uu sheegay in uusan si gaaar ah ula kulmin balse ay muqadas tahay in Cusmaan Caato ay oo soo dhoweeyan madaxda Puntland maadaama uu yahay Xildhibaan dawladda federaalkaa ah soona doortay xukuumadda Soomaaliya, aysanna cidna oran karin maxaa loo soo dhoweeyay, iyo maxuu u yimid?. Balse waxa uu intaasi raaciyay taliyuhu in Caato ay isku arkeen guriga islaanka aaysanna wax gaar ahi dhex marin isaga iyo Caato. Taliyaha ciidamada daraawiishta ayaa waxa uu sheegay in dhowaan ay dalka soo galayaa ciidamada IGAD Som oo gacanta siinaya xukuumadda Soomaliya , sidaasi daraadeed loo baahan yahay in la wada adkeeyo xasiloonida iyo nabad galyada gobolada dalka. Faarax C/qaadir Maxamed

Maamulka Degmada Gaalkacyo oo Culumaa'udiinka kala hadlay Khudbado laga soo jeediyo Masaajidada Last Updated::2006-10-31 14:17:04 Gaalkacyo:- Maamulka Degmada Gaalkacyo ayaa kulan gaar ah la yeeshay culumaa'udiinka magaalada xarunta Mudug. Kulankan oo ay kasoo qeyb galeen mas'uuliyiin sar sare oo kamid ah Ciidamada Amniga, ayaa looga wada hadlay khudbado xasaasi ah oo ay Culumaa'udiinka qaarkood is dhaafsadeen. Magaalada Gaalkacyo ee xarunta Gobalka Mudug ayaa kamid ahayd goobihii dhawaan looga dhawaaqay Jihaad ka dhan ah maleeshiyooyinka Maxaakiimta hadii ay soo galaan magaalada. Waxaana sidoo kale jirta kala qeyb sanaa ku aadan dhinaca siyaasada ee Culumaa'udiinka, ayadoo ay jiraan khudbado lid isku ah oo laga jeedinayey qaar kamid ah Masaajidada magaalada, arrintaasi oo uu maamulka degmada ku tilmaamay mid wax u dhimi kara amniga deegaanka. Maamulka degmada ayaa ka codsaday Culumaa'udiinka in la joojiyo khudbadaha xiisada dhalin kara isla markaana si mideysan looga wada shaqeeyo sidii loo adkeyn lahaa amniga. Cabdifutaax Shirwac HorseedNet.com - Gaalkacyo

^^^Most of the clan courts is from one clan. The clan of Mogadishu. Outside this you have Turki's clan who are now being brought in slowly, you have Abu Mansoor who is from Bay, but even the Shurra has very few members outside the clan of Mogadishu. For example if we look at the structure of the courts..,Which is centralised, all the top posts are filled by a single clan. The main courts are, Al-furqan, Ifka Xalin, Si-si, Chircoole, Dayniile... All belong to a single clan. Head: Xasan Dahir Aways Deputy: Sharif Ahmed Deputy: Suuley Deputy: A/Raxman Jinagow Security: Yusuf Inda Cade Fiannace: Abdulkadir Abukar Cadaan Foreign affairs chief: Prof Cadow Information: Head of Al-Shabaab: Adan XashiCayrow. All these posts are filled by the clan of Mogadishu, they have delegated some power to Turki's clan in the Juba's as if that area is just theirs.

^^^This is a developing story, but are the majority of the clan supporting this? No The people of Galkacyu are religious and they want the Shariah, but that does not mean they want to come under the Mogadishu clan courts, no. Nayruus, there are many suldans, Islans from Mudug who do not agree with this so what will the suldan do fight all of them. Also dont insult us by saying Tigray fighters, Puntland has its own army.

Another good read, the author touched upon all the main concerns I had.

Well said, this is history in the making, the coice is for the rivals to make, fight kill each other or make peace. Lieutenant Xalane, is looking at things from a different angle to most in here. We need more.

^^^A rossy picture in what is expected to be if it happens the bloodiest war we have seen. The clan courts are facing a huge army ahead of them, they have so far relied on the foreign elemnts, Eritreans, Oromo and others to gain advantage over ome grown millitias, but this is different and altogether more dangerous. The article alos points out to the fact that the TFG is not vased, they have moved closer to Bur, while the courts media where hyping the news about them being 18km from Baidoa, you cant be 18km from Baidoa and the TFG forces 10km from Bur, what gives?

latest on the issue.. Horn is right no matter what, you can not murder prisoners.

^^^Amiin.

Juje, you need to add something instead of trying to be all rightous up in this forum. Xalane made a great point. U got it all wrong,many of those pple's u mentioned like dahir aweys,indhacade and so forth,they get support from many who are from Col Yey's clan and many who are from dahir awey's clan support Yey.Its all about politics and what u think is of ur interest.The old legends u are talking about is a dead one,they even don't exist in books these days.As of the Question of clan,who is in to tribe and clan issues these days?Its the old men sxb.U got it all wrong...All wrong. For 16 yrs there was chaos in mogadisho,suddenly a govenrment is elected and holly warriors duck up from all the corners of the city,don't u think that there is more to it than that which is told?Its all evident."

^^^Raadmiir, edit the post brother. The clanish comments are unnecessary.

^^^Some great points apart from let the 65% perish, thats a great price. Somali's are all we have their lives should matter. We are a small nation and we can not lose any of our population. I care not for millitias or armed men, but who dies in wars like ours? The children, elderly, women, the weakest in our society.

^^^Everyone would welcome the whole abysinian demise.

BAL HORTA AAN FARIISANNO Assalaamu calaykum. Waxaa jirta mahmaah leh "XASIDKAAGU HADDU BATO XISKAAGAA LA KULMIYAA". Madaama ay siyaasada Somaliya saarantahay rati buubaal ah waxay ila tahay in loo bahanyahay in marka hore inta la acuuthu-Bilaysto aan is weydiinno su'aalo badan dabadeedna cidkastaba waxay aminsantahay mawqifka uga aadan ay ka qaadato. Waxaa kale oon qabaa in si cadaan ah laysigu sheego waxyaabo badan oo gooray qarxaamba qarxidoona, hora loo yiri "WAXAAD QARSATO WEY KU QARSADAAN". Waxay igula fiicantahay inaan qodob kastaba aan mithaal daba dhigno. Horta maxaan wadaagna haddaan Somali nahay. Waxaan wadaagna Diinta (muslinimo), marka waa waxkasta oon suubinnaba waa inay diinta ku salaysanyihiin. haddii kale waxay naga noqonaysaa inaan uun afka kasheegano ee aanan ku dhaqmin taana waxay noqonaysaa munaafaqnimo, Waxaa jirta ama ay aniga ila tahay in marki dhaqankeena lo firsho inay nala tahay mid ay diintu noo fasaxday ficillada & dagaallada qabiil ee aan ku salaysnayn difaaca dadkaaga & deegaankaaga, lakiin ku salaysan qab,awoodsheegasho iwlm. Inay saa tahahay waxaa kuu cadayna suugaanta ka hadasha dagaalada qabiil oo marki goob reer looga itaal roonaado marmarka barkood lagu calaacalo marki la guulaystana wax badan lagu faano saa dagaal qabiil waa ping-ponge ama toogeysi. Waxaan mithaal u soo qaadana abwaanki (aun) Aden Carab inta goob reerkiisu ku gacan sareeyay gabaygiisi uu ku soo qatimay: CAWADAY ANOO NOOL HADDII AAN CALAFTIDAA GARAY MARKA SOO CIMRAYSIYO XAJKII U CITIQAAD MAHA. Hade waa mar uu sheegay inuu dhiig islaameed ku cilaantay oo uu sheegay inuu reera kale uga daysaday. tani kuma koobna abwaankaan kaliya ee haddaanan qaldanay abwaaniinti ka qayb gashay silsiladi GUBA' Bulaale ma ahane inta kale waxay isku dhexwaday dhiig sokeeye oo qabiil loogalay & diintoo lays xijiyo. Waxa kale oon wadaagna Somalinimo nin baa hore u yiri "WAXYI IGUMA SOO DEGO HADDANA WAXIMA SEEGAANE, WAXAAN AHAY NIN WAAYA ADUUN WAXUGA MUUQDAANE"lABADAA (Muslinimo & Somalinimo) markii hoos looga dego waxaa loo tagaa xumaan oo dhan & midabkastoy leedahay, waane meesha ay maanta xaaladeenu marayso hebel taageer ma aha inaan ku tuuro Diinteydi & Somalinimadaydi. Waxaan arki jiray dhallinyaro markay sheekaysanaayaan qarkood ku faano inuu aabihi ahaa SYL qarkalana marki sheekadaa la soo qaado ay goobta isaga tagaan oo hadhow farta lagu fiiqo & "aabini ihiii ihiii dhanka kale...." waxaan ku fikiri jiray "tolow markay aabihi is arkaan muxuu ku fikiridoonaa" waa midaan carruur badan hadda uga baqaa. Maqaalkaan waxaan rabay inaan waxyaabo badan inti awoodayda ah dadka uga digo balse waxaa iga darraatay ballanta DFKG & MMI ay ku leeyihiin Khartuum. Halka ay maanta marayaan xiisadaha wadanka ka taagan waxay la midyihiin kuwii ka taagnaa 1990ki. Ruux kasta oo Xamar joogay oo ay wax ukala soocnaayeen wuxuu xasuustaa in labada reerood oo wadanka dhibaatadaa u horseeday waa ****** & ......... inay labadoodaba kiiba labo u sii qaybsanaa waxayna kala qabeen labadaan figradood mid xagjira: marka hore ****** dabadeedna Somali= marka hore ******* dabadeedna Somali. Tan kalana waxay ahayd: markastaba Somali!!! waxaana raayay xagjirki qabiilka cuskanaa. Hadda waxaa MMI iiga dhex muuqda qaar seef sita oo raba inay go'yaan madaxi aan la safnayn xitaa annagaas aan ka jirin ee ku jira "yaan lagu qiyaanine bal hubso". Qaarka kalane waxaad u moodaa inay leeyihiin "sidee xeego (qoono) loo xagtaa ilkana ku nabad galaan" oo ah sidee dawlad loo helaa shareecadana loogu dhaqma. DFKG iyaduna waxay u kala qaybsantahay qaar Tigree lahaatay oo raba inaan la heshiin oo Somali islaayso dal & ummadiisna aan dan ka lahayn. Qaybta kalana wax yar oo raba in la heshiiyo oo mar uun wax haysigu keen daba dhacaan qaba . Sida DFKG ay labadaa garab u leedahay oo MMI labadaa garab u leeyihiin ayey 1990ki labadi qabiil oon kor ku soo sheegay ay min laba garab u kala lahaayeen. Haddaba waxaan ku talin lahaa si aysan noogu dhicin tii 1991di 1. In la xakameeyo kan Tigrega soo hoggaaminaa oo raba in waddankeenna la isticmaarsado & wadaadka seefta sita. Waa nacasnimo wax xiisihii 1990ki shabaha oo magacyo & mabaadi' kale wata inaay markale dhibaato noo keenaan. 2. Waa in shirka ay ka qayb galaan aqoonyahannada & siyaasiyiinta aan la jirin MMI iyo DFKG midkoodna ee la jira oo kaliya dawlad Somaliyeed oo hoggaan fiican. Waxay dhexdhexaadin lahaayeen markay labada ballansan ay is mariwaayaan intaan loo gudbin ajnabiga. 3. In DFKG & MMI ay yeelaan sidi kalki hore oo marka hore aan la dhexgelin ee ayagu ay isku noogaan, kala tagaa isku soo noqdaan, kala xanaaqaan oo heshiiyaan. Labane waa iga digniin: 1. Ka qaybgalayaasha shirka waxaa ku jiri kara qaar haddii la heshiiyo mustaqbilkoodu yahay marshabiyeedaha & maqaayadaha shacbiga, kuwa wararkoodaa na soo gaaree ha layska jiro. 2. Waxaan golaha wasiirada & gola baarlamaanka ku baraarujina haddii wadankeenna cadaw soo galo Cabdullahi Iusuf, Shariif Xasan & Cali M. Gedi oo kaliya inaysan dambiga lahayn balse ayaguna ay la wadaagaan. BERKA KA OGSOONI arrintaasi waa taariiq. Fg. Qoraalkan billoowgiisi waxaan damacsana ISHAALLAAH waan soo wadaa... Wabillaahil-tawfiiq. Ahmed Shurie Iusuf iidi3@hotmail.com

[...Hadii Dawladii ku meel gaarka ahayd Itoobiya u yeeratay, Maxkamadihiina Eriteeriay aaway dadka intiisii kale, meeye mutaclimiintii, indheer garadkii, siyaasintii dhexdhexaadka ahaa, wadaniyiintii, dadkii dalka xoreeyey, haweenkii, ardaydii…iyo….iyo……...]

Ilaahow Itoobiya iyo Eriteriya Dhexdooda Nagu Caymi Markii uu bilowday dagaalkii lagu hoobtay ee dhexmary Ethiopia iyo Erteria 1998, marna isma oran collaada aan sababaha badan lahayn ee labada wadan u dhaxaysaa heerakaasay gaaraysaa. Waxaana u arkayey inkastoo dagaalka sabab looga dhigay khliaafaad xaga xuduudka ah iyo dhul laysku hasto gaar ahaan degmada Badame hadana sababata dhabta ah ee ay ahayd mid caqliyada dadka wareerisay oo dad badani u arkayeen in khilaafku ku salaysan yahay arimo shakhsi ah oo labada Hogaamiye (Afwarke iyo Zenawi) khuseeya iyo heshiiyo qarsoodi ah oo ay galeen xiligii ay la dagaalamayeed dawladii Milateriga ahayd ee Mingiste Xayle Maryam. Waxaase dad badani isku raaceen in marka la eego sida hawsha-yare ee nidaamka Addis Ababa uga tanaasulay Eriteria ee uu xoriyad buuxda u siiyey (afti Eriteeriyiinta laga qaaday ka dib) in ay muuqatey in Itoobiya aanay damac weyn iyo hunguri weynin badan ka qabin dhinca Eriteriya iyo dhulkeeda toonaa laakiin cida khilaafka iyo dagaalka bilowday ay tahay Afawarkaha Eriteria oo u arkayey in Itoobiya burburayso sidaa darteed uu xaq uleeyahay inuu "hashaa" qalan saami intuu helay ka badan ka helo. Waxaana xusid mudan inuu isku dayey inuu Yemen ka fara-maroojiyo Jaziiradaha Xineyshka oo markii dambe Maxkamada Caalamiga ee The Hague u xukuntay Yemen isagoo sidaa si lamid ah daandaansi joogta ah iyo gardaraysi ku hayey Sudan iyo Jabuuti, wuxuuna sidaa kula baxay magac loo qarin jirey oo ahaa "Sadaam Xusseenka Geeska Afrika" Isku soo duubo shaki kuma jiro in dagaalkii uu la galay Etoobiya uu wax badan ka bedeley dabeecadaha Asias Afawarke oo uu ugu yaraan dareemay in aan cudud milateri waxba lagu xalin karin. Waxuu sanse marna ilaawin (Afwarke) collaada aan sidaan hore u sheegnay la garanayn sababteeda ee kala dhexaysa Meles Zenawiga Etoobiya kuwaasoo mandaqada geeska Afrika geliyey colaad hore leh iyo is xulufaysi iyadoo awelba gobolku la tiicayey cuduro iyo fakhri ay sababeen Abaaro iyo dagaalo aan micno weyn lahayn oo shucuubtu ku hoobatay. Somaliya Hadaba markaan u baydho teeni Soomaaliya, waxaa arin ugub ah in Soomaalidu ay noqoto "ullo" ay isla dhacaan Etoobiya iyo Eriteria iyo gaar ahaan labada nine ee colaada "nacasnimadi" ah dhexmartay ee ka kala taliya Asmara iyo Addis oo labadaba dowladii hore ee soomaaliya ay sababteeda lahayd kursiga ay hada ku fadhiyaan. Waa wax laga murugoodo markaan arinkan kala sheekeeshay Dr. Asim Omar oo ah khabiir Sudaani ah oo arimaha gobolka ka faalooda ee uu i weydiiyey suaal aanan weli jawaabteeda hayn maskaxdaydana aan ka fujin kari waayey oo ahayd. [...Hadii Dawladii ku meel gaarka ahayd Itoobiya u yeeratay, Maxkamadihiina Eriteeriay aaway dadka intiisii kale, meeye mutaclimiintii, indheer garadkii, siyaasintii dhexdhexaadka ahaa, wadaniyiintii, dadkii dalka xoreeyey, haweenkii, ardaydii…iyo….iyo……...] Markaan ka soo baxay anigoo murugaysan xaalkeenana og ayaan ilaahay hoosta ka baryey oo iri "...Ilaahayoow waad na aragtaa maantaan is lahaa xal baadhow oo xamar baa xasishay wataa xabad cusub, jihaad, iyo dagaal naloo wakiishay (proxy war) aan bilownay………Ilaahow Na Caymi..." Walaahu Aclam, Qore:Cabdiraxman Xariri xariri@hotmail.com Saudi Arabia Daabicida: HorseedNet.com

Olol, you suppose I dont have relations with members of your clan. Well I do and I respect them allot, they are a wonderful people like any Somali family. We need to concentrate on the politics here, you convince me..

^^^Saxib, no need to get personal, I have always wanted a national government for my country, nothing more nothing less. Saxib I pray as a devout Muslim to have my nation back, to keep those in peace the way they are. Consider this fakery of the courts and consider the war as some point out that 12 nations will engage in, who will die? Who will suffer? Alas, Yusuf, Geedi, Sharif Ahmed, Xasan Dahir all of these men are not worth it.

All I see is more geeri, qax, and barakac. We have been here before, in Gedo region if you could remember. What was the result? Neither Ethiopia nor Al Itihad won (Ethiopia won militarily but could not hold the region), and the region descended into sub-clan rivalry never seen in the history of that region. It was only two years ago in that grand Garbaharey Conference that everything was cut and alxamdulilah for two years the region has not seen one bout of instability either within the region or with their neighbors. Try replicating that scenerio nationally and sadly you will see what I see. Ethiopia is a regional superpower supported by the West especially in this endeavor (some analyists go so far as to say Ethiopia is doing the bidding of Washington) and the ICU has, as they believe, Alle (swt) on their side. But having Alle (swt) on your side, as you believe, does not necessarily guarantee victory; maybe Alle (swt) had destined for you to lose? I find it extremely unfortunate that at a time when the xuddun of Somalia, our capital, has just taste freedom and security and a reprieve from blood-sucking warlords, that their liberators had not concentrated on the social and economic needs of our needy people but instead chose to wage war both physically and verbally against peaceful cities and regions and deliberately opened up a new and more disastrous war for our already suffering people. That saddens me. Well said. Ubahane, we all agree with you in your opposition to Ethiopia. Our conflict with them is 500 years old if not more. It is one of the pillars in our national development. But what you must see is that the battle ground is in our back yard, in Bay, Lower Shabbele, Banadir, Puntland, Juba's. The battle between Asmara and Adis, Between IGAD and ARAB league is in our country. It is not OUR Arab brothers or Tigray neigbours that will suffer, it will be us. Lets stop beating the drum and pray for a way out.

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