i am starting to like STOIC even more these days:D

We cant know for sure thats him but they do have the same fore head.

I was born a free man i was never ordered in my life and i dont think no one can ever order the Xaaji around:D

How about giving Somaliland the chance to vote for independence like Quebec did they failed but give Somaliland the same chance. I am for a union a lose union call it what ever you want or a confederation as long as an official Exist referendum is given to the people of SL. And i think that's something Siilaanyo can sell to his people.

Iska hadlow ina igarre:D

Forget about Kulmiye or the previous government our foreign policy has its deep holes since 1991 and its of concern but what are the alternatives to reach a point where we can say that sort of particular foreign policy will bear fruit for Somaliland i am more interested in that. I think its a bit risky what the Kulmiye govt did.But if we keep our selves at a point where we not moving forward or not making progress. Than people will wonder whats wrong with our policy or are our politicians incompetent to accomplish the mission?

loooool Horta are Ministers allowed to chew?

Maybe Puntland , but not Somaliland , Somaliland has a special status on how it deals with Somalia. Not to mention that AID was never given to Somaliland , you do know SL doesn't receive bilateral aid well only from Britain and Denmark. This is Somalilands agreement with Somalia Agreed to share experience on working more effectively with the international community on the use of development and humanitarian assistance for the people of both sides and called for the international community to increase that assistance;

Oodweyne wasn't it the brits their own conference that came with the whole talking to Somalia as a way out or some sort of solution. Or was attending the conference last year a bad thing to do. I still think though even though there is no clear time table with these talks that with in those talks some sort of agreement can be reached with the Koonfurians if the talks fail we can always go back to our self imposed isolation no one to hurt Somaliland and continue and take a different foreign policy. But i am sure this Hassan culusow guy is a very reasonable guy and isn't as obsessed with the Union as some of his predecessors. Somaliland just needs to play its cards well when these talks re start soon. And i am sure the International community will be in the center of these talks and they will be held in Europe or a Neutral African country in time we will know more about the SL and Somalia situation.

True oba has a point reer Puntland well atleast the one on SOL were against Sharif and wanted change now they have change:D

The Road to Economic Development; the case for Somaliland By: Mustafa M. Awjama, This work tries to pave the way for the achievement of a sustainable economic growth by taking into account the current position of the Somaliland economy and then compiles a set of recommendations for those agents including policy makers who are interested in improving the economy. Currently, Somaliland is in the stage of what Rostow called “the preconditions for take-off”. According to Rostow, the “preconditions for take-off”, the second stage of a five stage process, is characterised by the presence of entrepreneurs in the society and investors who are ready to invest ideas. In his paper Is there a proper sequence in Democratic transitions? Francis Fukuyama highlights that “Development is a complex process that takes place across multiple dimensions of Human life”, and that economic growth, the State, Rule of law and mechanisms of democratic accountability are just few of those several dimensions. In this paper I will focus on the economic side of that development process. Economic development is often understood as the transformation and improvement of a society’s standard of living and wellbeing. There is no universal strategy which succeeds the economic advancement for all nations and it is often up to that particular country to decide which way it takes to achieve its desired destination[1]. However, there is generally a correlation between state building and economic growth, between rule of law and growth, and between stable democracy and economic growth. Economists often emphasize technological progress and capital accumulation as the two main sources of economic growth. The logic behind this is very simple. An individual with an advanced technology is likely to produce more than an individual with a primitive technology. Similarly, an individual with more capital can produce more than an individual with less capital; the higher the capital per worker the higher the productivity. The good news is that it’s not hard these days to improve the state of technology for any given country due to technology diffusion which allows countries to adopt and replicate new technologies and know-how from other countries. We need to acknowledge that the underlying purpose for economic development is to increase the wellbeing of the individual and that per capita income is just one of several indicators. In addition to promoting the wellbeing of the individual policies should also be structured to narrow the inequality gap as a wider inequality gap might have political repercussions. By aiming to achieve steadily growing productivity, Governments closely watch some key factors which stimulate the economy including; Investment, consumer expenditure, what the Government spends, and the country’s Net exports to the rest of the world. Hence, in order for Somaliland to build its economy, a number of institutions and policies are needed to be in place. In here, I will present those policies and institutions which will assist Somaliland economy to develop and which will also take it to the next stage. I. Property Rights and Contract Enforcement The two aspects of the Rule of law, which restricts arbitrary decisions made by governments, that economists relate to economic growth are the Property rights and contract enforcement[2]. Reason being that no agent will make a long term investment unless their property rights are secured. It is conceivable that individuals are bound to face extra costs to defend their property where a property right does not exist. It is also arguable that economic efficiency requires the allocation of resources for those individuals who can utilize it.[3] With this respect investors in Somaliland might face several problems including tribalism which can hinder economic efficiency and can cause investors to seek protection from other agents. Though a resource has been allocated, it is highly unlikely that an individual from the east dares to make an investment in the west due to the disturbances caused by tribalism and vice versa. This is one example of why sustained contract enforcement comes in to the calculus of economic productivity. On one hand, the ability of the Somaliland state to enforce contracts needs to be established while on the other hand the ability of the state to make arbitrary decisions needs to be limited. When discussing property rights and contract enforcement the case of Zimbabwe can be a good example to refer where Ceil Rhodes’ company offered the land in order to attract settlers and where later Robert Mugabe redistributed the land just to hold on to power[4]. Whatever the reason has been for Zimbabwe, lack of property rights and contract enforcement can have disastrous effect on the economy. Somaliland will need to draft regulations of property rights in clear-cut terminologies and will also need to have a strong third party for arbitrations. II. Financial Institutions The fact that there are both entrepreneurs and people who want to invest in the country necessitates the establishments of financial institutions. “A healthy and vibrant economy requires a financial system that moves funds from people who save to people who have productive investment opportunities” (Mishkin, 2007). Before any step, Somaliland will need to establish a well functioning central bank. Apart from implementing the monetary and the exchange rate policies, the central bank is also required to supervise the banking sector and to act as the lender of last resort. In short, the central bank is the bank of the central government and the bank of all banks.[5] All financial institutions including banks, insurance companies, saving institutions and investment companies needs to be regulated by the government. One might take the so called “gain profit while sitting” project in 2009 as a good example which can clearly show the negative effects of lack of financial regulations in Somaliland. During the years this project had been operating in Somaliland, thousands of people saved their money without official agreements. All those who deposited their money were at the end screaming in the streets of Hargiesa claiming that the saving institution had disappeared and that their money had been lost. Therefore, since the failure of one bank can jeopardize the whole economy, financial institutions especially banks should be heavily regulated. According to Pilbeam (2005), the main objective of regulating financial markets is to promote stability, to keep the investors safe and to encourage fair competition in the market. All in all, as Brunnermeier (2009) said “one of the key purposes of bank regulation is to internalize the social costs of potential bank failures”. III. The Role of Diplomatic Missions in Promoting trade Diplomatic recognition cannot be said to be a precondition for economic development and lack of recognition does not exclude countries to pursue their economic growth goals. According to Shaw (2008), Recognition is merely “a method of accepting certain factual situations and endowing them with legal significance”. However, Somaliland arguably exists as a legal personality in international law. It has been emphasized that: “…Recognition may be viewed as constitutive or declaratory…, the former theory maintains that it is only through recognition that a state comes into being under international law, whereas the latter approach maintains that once the factual criteria of statehood have been satisfied, a new state exists as an international person, recognition becoming merely a political and not a legal act”.[6] Somaliland will need to see the diplomatic recognition as a quid pro quo game; scratch my back and I will scratch yours. It is highly unlikely that a country will recognise Somaliland unless that country is sure what it is getting in return is at least proportionately equal to the benefits of the recognition it is giving. Therefore, parallel to its mission in getting recognition, Somaliland should come up with strategies to promote its international trade and seek investment through its diplomatic representatives. This is also one of the core functions of diplomatic missions as defined by article 3 of the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations in 1961.[7] By concentrating economic diplomacy, Somaliland will not only promote trade and investment but will also increase its networking, promote country profile and at last will have a say in those global political organisations including the United Nations.

Oba if you want Mooge to like the president adigu maha inad hoos carartid Madaxweynaha. hadi kale Mooge madaxweynaha muufe iyo cambuulo bu ka urinaya wax fahan.

^^ You are not really helping the case lol

You cannot please every one give the president a chance for a year and than we can talk about his achievements its very difficult to lead Somalis since there is so much distrust between the people. And ofcourse not everything is perfect or will be perfect, but Somalia is slowly emerging. As for the the Prime Minister and his job we can say that the Prime Minister took the role of a mere vice president than the head of the executive branch of the government. But as long as there is some sort of governance in Mogadishu its better than what we had few years ago , so mooge you might not like the government or hassan, but support the people. the image of Somalis is tarnished all over the world. You can only help you're people if you support what is right.

Ninkan Mooge ninka mucaraad xun waligay ma arkin

Mooge agreeing with Cali khalif Galaydh this is astonishing:D

Whats the new conference in London about che?

I can move my ears while not touching my ears.

I never said the world is perfect nor is life fair but that doesn't mean we shouldn't act as humans and try to look for the positiveness of our societies. I always see things from a clear perspective African Americans some of them think White people are beasts and evil by Nature. Because of what was done to them in the early 19 century. But that doesn't mean the future has to be dictated of what happened in the past. There is a difference between hatred and distrust Somali tribes distrust each other but they don't hate each other. I don't believe there is hate between Somalis. Now distrusting feelings was cause by many factors the decimated of large segments of population during the war, nepotism. We need to think and see the bigger picture and learn from our mistakes and learn from our histories. in Africa in Asia in south America in Europe and all over the world. There is no point of repeating the same mistake over and over again.

He believes lets talk to Somalia like many but he believes that the recognition the Somalia govt received from the Washington has some consequences for Somaliland, now that can be debated and there might be some truth in that.

Kenya oo beri bilaabeysa Raafka Soomaalida Islii oo loo rarayo Xerada Dhadhaab [Daawo] on January 20, 2013 * Qoraal kasoo baxay Xafiiska Madaxweynaha Kenya Mwi Kibaki ayaa amar lagu siiyey dowlada iyo ciidamada Kenya inay bilaabaan aruurinta ama raafka qaxootiga Soomaalida ah ee ku sugan magaalada Nairobi gaar ahaan Xaafada Islii. Qoraalkan kasoo baxay Xafiiska Madaxweynaha 16kii bishan Janaayo ayaa lagu sheegay in beri oo ku beegan 21ka Janaayo hawlgalkan la bilaabi doono, iyadoo ciidamada Kenya aruurin doonaan Soomaalida ku sugan xaafadda Islii ee aan sharciga heysan. Hawlgalkan ayaa loogu magacdaray (Relocation of Uran Refugees to Officially Designated Camps) Di u rarida Qaxootiga Magaalooyinka ku dhaqan oo loo wareejinayo Xeryaha loogu talo galay. Dadka ayaa la qorsheeyey in la isugu geeyo marka hore Istaadiyumka Thika Municipal Staduim, kadibna gaadiid lagu qaado oo loo raro xerada Qaxootiga ee Dhadhaab. Qorshahan ayaa waxaa si weyn udhaliilay qaar kamid ah Xildhibaanada Soomaalida ah ee ku jira Baarlamaanka Kenya. Faarax Maalim oo shalay shir jaraa’iid ku qabtay magaalada Nairobi ayaa sheegay in arrintan ay tahay fal cunsurinimo ah isla markaana hay’adaha amaanka Qaarkood ay caado ka dhigteen in ay Soomaalida u bartilmaamsadaan si ay dhaqaale uga sameeyeen, wuxuuna sheegay in ay hay’adaha sirdoonka hawshooda kasoo bixi waayeen oo ay eeda uun dusha ka saaraan dadka Soomaalida ah oo uu sheegay in dhibaato weyn lala damacsan yahay. Daawo wareysi uu bixiyey Faarax Maalim Magaalooyinka dalka Kenya gaar ahaan Nairobi iyo Mombasa ayey bilihii lasoo dhaafay ka dhacayeen weeraro aan la aqoon kooxaha ka danbeeya, balse dowlada ay ku eedaysay inay ka danbeeyaan kooxda Al Shabaab, waxaana horey xabsiyada lagu xiray dad badan oo Soomaali ah oo aan iyagu wax danbi ah lagu helin. Waxaa sidoo kale jiray weeraro lala beegsaday goobaha Ganacsiga iyo Masaajidada Soomaalida oo ay Soomaali badan dhimasho iyo dhaawacyo kasoo gaareen. Go’aanka kasoo baxay Xafiiska Madaxweynaha Kenya Kibaki ayaa kusoo beegmaya xili dhawr todobaad laga joogo markuu dalka Kenya safarkak u yimid Madaxweynaha Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud. Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya ayaa asagu sheegay inay doonayaanin dadka loo soo cesho balse, ay diidan yihiin in si jahwareer ah dadka Qaxootiga Soomaalida ah dib loogu soo cesho. Qorshaha Kenya hada wado ayaa cabsi weyn ku abuurtay shacabka Soomaalida ah ee ku sugan xaafadda Islii ee magaalada Nairobi oo caawa cabsi ku seexanaya, manaca cada hawlgalka balaaran intuu socon doono.

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khatumo versus the SNM wear wolves

Seems the author is trying to convince him self rather than Somalilanders:D

Che -Guevara;910234 wrote: Nagadaa Xaaji, this 'new generation' thinks Somalis have hooves for feet and horns on their head lool :D:D