Carafaat check somaliland org, xaglatoosiye was today with the sl community of finland

Carafaat soon, by the way carafaat why are people opposed to the cultural bond somalia and somaliland share, as people. Isn't this good for the somali people in both somalia and somaliland.

^^ Ma cadho raisalwasaare ka kacday baa:D

^^ Carafaat faroole recently constructed a new palace in Garowe i don't see the goat herders of the garowe enclave leaving the throne any time soon

Waranle_Warrior;940408 wrote: ^You can say whatever you want but the reality is this President does not command a great respect from majority of the Somali people except few of his HAG close tied links and comrades. The people Jubba, Puntland, Bay-Bakool, Shabeelaha House are all suspicious and quite surprised with his blatant clanish policies. Even he introduced some favoritism within his own HAG sub groups. He's divisive and is seen a such or looked at very suspiciously by many Somali clans (yes clans and we know clan mean something in Somali politics) and it will take him years to recover from this bad stains if, and that's if, he changes course. But we will see. These are all allegations based on what exactly the President is not clanish he wants to reform Somalia its you who is clanish and want to create and clan states in Somalia. The President wants to create all inclusive states free of qabiil. What did the President do to Puntland he invited faroole to come to xamar to attend his inauguration Faroole refused to come to his capital. The President is doing a good job you need to support the President.

Nuune doesn't want to be associated with Gaarisa:D STOIC yaa ku yiri ninka ku sheeg Gaarisa.

Its a cultural bond between Somalia and Somaliland which will always exist , the same Somali cultural values Somaliland shares with Djibouti. I want the Hargeysa artists also to make a poem gabay geeraar for hassan sheikh maxamuud the President of Somalia. .

^^ You said if SL goes , i the Pirates will not stay with the HAG community ,so your Somalia nationalism is based on Somaliland whether it goes or not. So you view that there will not be any hope for Somalia, if Somaliland is recognized. Waranle i see the pirates do not want to leave Somalia and the HAG community are very happy with their Mogadishu i dont see a reason for the 2 leave each other do you.

The president has the support of his People the People of Somalia i am not talking about a few disgruntled diaspora members the President is a hard working man and he is an honest believer. The president wants to create an all inclusive entity in southern Somalia instead of clan states and he doesn't want to empower clan identities in Somalia. So he wants to create an all inclusive strong entity and from there create sub governmental institutions and regions not based on clan but a variety of regions and communities.The President doesn't care about what people in garisa and jigjiga say about his country he is not responsible for them.

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^^ Come if you are so certain lets bet on it , i am sure the President will not go he confirmed it for a 3rd time and so did the all the Parties back home now tell me how is he going to go ?

Waranle_Warrior;940389 wrote: No amount of outside tours or giving speeches in different capitals will acquire him respect or earn him the hearts and minds of the Somali people. He has the support of the Somali people, he only doesn't have the support of certain Somali Kenyans but he is not the President of the north eastern Somali Kenyan province he is the President of Somalia a different country.

Waranle lets bet on it 1000 dollars if Somaliland attends the conference i give you 1000 dollars.

Waranle ceeb maha the smaller clan ilaahay ba dadka kala badiyey, you can call me small clan or big clan it wont matter

Waranle_Warrior;940380 wrote: ^No brother, its the other around, its SL that cannot survive without the south and all this secession bravado is well staged political stunt. SL proved it can survive its the other way around its you who is calling for unity not SL , Its you who is insecure and cant survive, you even said that if SL goes , the rest will disintegrate:D. That proves that SL is very important to your own existence

Waranle_Warrior;940374 wrote: Wadani, how do you know or prove that is the accurate map or is this Wadani being 'real' wadani and fiqi tolki kama jano tago type these days The map he posted is closer to the truth than what the cartoonist illustrated , the cartoonis is from the smaller Mogadishu clans so he would not know anything about Somaliland clan Demographics. Because according to his map hargeisa gabiley arasbiyo wajaale are all part of the owdal state thats how he calls it. Qurilugud and the northern buhoodle district is part of khatumo and even western sool is part of khatumo according to him.

oba hiloowlow;940377 wrote: horta be realistic y'all why would any sane lander join Zoomalia? Good question my unuka friend

^^ If wishes were horses my friend Somaliland is not after political seats in Mogadishu not Prediceny Prime Minister or speaker of Parliament, have u not listened to President siilaanyo. Cant you survive with out Somalilanders:D. Heck if Somalilanders were promised President for ever i would still turn down the offer. Nothing is better than Somaliland.

Source British Somaliland / by Ralph E. Drake-Brockman.Drake-Brockman, Ralph E. (Ralph Evelyn), 1875-1952.

^^ Somalilanders do not really care about ruling Somalia do you know how many chances the Koonfurians suggested to unite the country and move the capital to hargeisa in the late 90s. But Somalilanders have seen that union with Somalia is not beneficial for them Somalilanders are people of great quality and can build nations not to forget that resources of SL they made the former Somali republic and they broke it. if Somalilanders wanted to play politics with Koonfurians they could get a lion share of everything. But why share anything when you can be your own country Somalilanders are people who are very confident and have trust in their own strength something the rest of the Somali speaking people lack. Not to forget all the resources in Somaliland, Somalilanders believe the former union in 1960 was wrong to being with and should've never happened. But some how the union was good , the struggle for independence and statehood made Somalilanders stronger , so in a way it was positive.

The Sage;940353 wrote: Despite the nay-sayers, doubters, plotters and contemptuous foes Somaliland still stands firm in its unwavering right of sovereignty and self-determination. With more engagement from the international community than ever including direct relations with heads of state and major powers, booming business and investment from manufacturing to natural resources, strong national defense and expanding control over its rightful territory and burgeoning government finances that are literally in the hundreds of millions and exponentially expanding year after year. ...where is that final nail in the coffin now? Indeed long live

Pirates carrying about Somali dignity the same people who brought xabashis to Somalia please:D

Garaad Bari;940349 wrote: I don't participate this kind of cyber fadhi Kudir nor I have the luxury of time to do so. This response is an educational one for the two boys Oodweyne and STOIC as well as JB if he still around. see the link below http://i9.tinypic.com/4r134ow.jpg This picture was taken in 1907 at Berbera coast and clearly shows Somalis (or in other words your great grand parents) put in the worst form of SLAVERY.. This how the British threat your ancestors, this is your history; this is what they should teach youngsters at schools. that sawir is not berbera its Seylac

Waranle HAG ma waxad dawlad kula tahay Somaliland baan wali la ictraafin. Somalinimadu ama wada jirka Somalia ma waxay ku xidhantahay Somaliland:D. Oo adigu maad ka maraanta Xamar u malayn mayo inad xamar ka maraantid:D

Aaliyyah;940334 wrote: First of all, the current clan based admin “Somaliland” is different than the British Somaliland that consisted of multi-clans. Secondly, Khaatumo clan was the only one among the clans in the North of Somalia who never signed any treaties of protection with Britain. Hence, the Khatumo folks never recognized the colonial borders (British Somaliland) and still stand firm by their decision. They were not the only clan there were other clans to who didn't sign the colonial treaties for instance the Baligubadle clan southern Hargeisa didn't sign the colonial treaty and there were others to. The Brits signed a treaty with all the coastal tribes Maakhir clan the awdal clans saaxil and other sanaag clans. But since the Garaad clan is a clan of the interior they didn't sign a treaty the same with the baligubadle clan.