There is no such thing as Ogland, the current term you are looking for right now is dawlada deegaanka Somalida eeh Itoobiya, thats an entity that exist. If there is an OG entity we have not seen it yet horta ka midha dhali and the fight the xabashis and get your land back. Somaliland is different its a functioning defacto state the Koonfurians have no control over Somaliland , you cannot compare that to your Og Imaginary state my friend.

^^ The thing what can you do to stop Somaliland the answer is nothing:D Somaliland has left you behind and some people still have a hard time accepting this fact. With the Koonfurians the Pirates seem to be the one who really are deeply saddened by this development since they are neither in Mogadishu politically. Nor is there room for them when Somalia and Somaliland are talking.

Apophis;940309 wrote: I'm from NFD, OGland and Somalia. It's not my fault my ancestors expanded for the future while others were happy to be porch monkeys; a fact which causes others to see red You cant be from all of those places you can only be from one country you cannot be a Kenyan Ethiopian and Somali all at the same time pick one.

I thought Apophis said that he was from Mogadishu and that he was born there a proper Somali citizen is he now a Somali Kenyan war ninku is bed bedal badana:D

Homunculus;940292 wrote: Things are getting more interesting, I hope he follows through. If this is his final word then why is the Somali president wasting his time negotiating with Somaliland? Shouldn't he concentrate his energy in building a functioning country first? The talks between Somalia and Somaliland is something the international community called for its not in the hands of the Somalia President. The world called for the 2 sides to talk and to clarify their future relations and they would facilitate these talks and support it particularly the Europeans called for these talks to happen. The president of Somalia can in his turn than negotiate for a union while Somaliland insist to remain a separate republic at the end the people decide. Let the talks continue in a few months and see how it goes, i think the president of Somalia will go for some sort of compromise and the SL goverment will support it as long as it is given an official exit way out, in a reasonable time frame. The self determination of the people of Somaliland is the way forward.

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Madaxweynaha Somalia oo kudbad ka jeediyay Furitaanka Shir looga hadlayo Ammaanka Qaaradda Afrika (SAWIRRO) Sabti, Abriil 20, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud ayaa maanta khudbad ku aaddan dhanka amaanka ka jeediyay furitaanka shirka Tana Forum ee looga hadlayo amniga Qaaradda Afrika ee ka dhacaya dalka Itoobiya. Madaxweynaha ayaa waxaa shirkaas kala qaybgalaya ra’iisul wasaare ku xigeenka ahna wasiirka arrimaha dibadda iyo iskaashiga caalamka, Fowziyo Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan iyo Wasiir-u-dowlaha madaxtooyadda, Faarax Sheekh Cabdulqaadir. “Afrika waa inay kalsooni muujiso una istaagto ka hor-tagista dambiyada qorsheysan ama abaabulan. Dambi waa dambi cid walbo oo geysata waa isla mid. Qiil ma lahan, waana in lagula dagaalamo ciidan ahaan iyo siyaasad ahaan intaba,” ayuu madaxweynuhu ku yiri khadbadiisa. Sidoo kale, madaxweynuhu wuxuu ku sheegay hadalkiisa: Waxaan aamin-sanahay in dhammaanteen amnigeena guud uu ku jiro deris nabad iyo amni wanaagsan leh. Annaga deriskeenna wuxuu isku haleyn karaa Soomaaliya oo nabad iyo amni ah.” Madaxweynuhu wuxuu dalbaday in gacan lagu siiyo xukuumaddiisa sidii ay uga adkaan lahayn burcadbadeedda oo uu ku sheegay cadow weyn iyo sidoo kale kooxo uu ku sheegay argagaxiso dowladdiisa kasoo horjeeda, isagoo xusay in Soomaaliya oo nabad ah ay dalalka Qaaradda iyo kuwa dariska ah ku noolaan karaan nabad iyo xasillooni waarta. “Waxaan ognahay in burcadbadeedda ay dhaqaalaha adduunka wax weyn u dhimeen. Beesha caalamkana waxay waddaa ka hortagidda falalka burcad-badeednimada. Laakiin waxaa muhiim ah in la ogaado in arrinkaas uusan noqon karin suurto-gal haddii aan la helin Soomaaliya oo nabad ah,” ayuu hadalkiisa raaciyay Ugu dambeyn, madaxweynaha ayaa kula dardaarmay madaxdii Afrika ee ka soo qaybgalya shirkaas in Afrika ay mas’uuliyad weyn ka saaran tahay sidii ay ammaankeeda ku sugi lahayd. Dowladda Soomaaliyana ay dadaal weyn ku bixinayso inay sugto amnigeeda gudaha; taasna ay dowladda u tahay muhiimadda koowaad.

Somaliland: Sovereignty is Irrevocable and Quest for Recognition is Relentless -Silanyo Saturday, 20 April 2013 16:04 President Silanyo © re-affirms Somalia Confrence boycott at a meetint with Diaspora Somalilanders in London "We have informed the UK that our decision to boycott the forthcoming London conference on Somalia is final" "During various engagements and discussions with friendly governments as well as neighbouring Somalia We have never wavered from our irrevocable Sovereignty stance- President Silanyo By: Hasan O Horri LONDON (Somalilandsun) – The sovereignty of Somaliland is irrevocable thus a foregone conclusion and the only way forward is international recognition at all or no cost. These sentiments were expressed by the president H.E. Ahmed Mahmud Silanyo during a meeting with British Somalilanders in London on the evening of 19th April 2013. The head of state also informed the over 1000 landers at the meeting that he has informed the UK government that the decision by the Hargeisa Administration to boycott the 7th May London conference on Somalia still stands firm. During a meeting President Silanyo held with the British Prime Minister David at No 10 Downing street The UK government had asked Somaliland to reconsider its boycott decision and participate in the 7th May London conference on Somalia. Said Dr Silanyo "We informed the British premiere that The London conference which is co-chaired by the president of SomaliaDavid Cameron requested President Silanyo to reconsider somalia conference participation during a meeting a No 10 Downing street is solely for that country therefore having nothing for Somaliland to offer nor for it to be offered" The head of the yet to be recognized country also revealed that though he rejected the UK request to reconsider on attending the London conference, Somaliland is beholden to the people and government of the United Kingdom for continued friendship that the two countries have shared for long. Said he, "It is with regret that I refuse to accede to the British request but I informed PM David Cameron that while Somaliland is proud of its friendship and grateful of development support it receive s from the UK, the decision of Landers is supreme to all" To the jubilation of the multitude of British Somalilanders and those from other European countries sardine packed in the Mermaid Centre of central London Dr Ahmed Mahmud Silanyo said that his administration is ruled by the decisions and desires of Somaliland citizens in whose mandate he, president Silanyo operates under. On the issue burning issue pertaining to on-going dialogue with Somalia President Silanyo informed that Somaliland and its administration holds no ill-will against its neighbour Somalia but only wishes of good tidings but that any engagement between the two have and shall only be on equal basis that is one sovereign country to another. "During various engagements and discussions with friendly governments as well as neighbouring Somalia We have never wavered from our irrevocable Sovereignty stance" said President Silanyo From left President Hasan PM Erdogan President Silanyo Turkish FM Davutoglu and Dr Omar after signing the Ankara communique in TurkeyRecounting the lengthily but yet to be reciprocated worldwide quest for sovereignty, president Silanyo said that despite the blind eye and deaf ear accorded the two decades quest the international community continues to engage with Somaliland as they do other recognized nations. He reiterated his oft promise to knock every door, visit any country and or meet any individual deemed of importance to the attainment of Somaliland's 21 years old quest for international recognition as a sovereign nation. Somaliland which pulled out of its then 1960 voluntary later fateful union with Somalia in 1991 has remained unrecognized by any nation despite full jurisdiction of its British mapped boundaries and undeniable gains in Democracy, security and multi-sectored development etc. Following the dictates of the Somalia conference held in London and Istanbul in 2012 Somaliland has held three dialogues with Somalia resulting in the Seven points Ankara Communique of 13th April 2013 which augment and reinforce the four points of Dubai Declaration and eight points Chevening House-London agreement. The lively meeting with Diaspora Somalilanders the president H.E Ahmed Mahmud Silanyo was accompanied by the first lady Ms Amina Sh Mohamed Jirdeh "Weris", Speaker of parliament and leader of opposition party Wadani Abdirahman Mohamed Abdilahi "Irro", Foreign minister Dr Mohamed Abdilahi Omar, Minister of the presidency Mr Hirsi Haji Ali, Attorney General Mr Hasan Ahmed Aden, and Diplomatic Representative in the UK Ambassador Aden Awale.

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The Zack;940259 wrote: ^LOL :D Xunjuf, I can post 16 different videos of Awdalites with blue flag in Borama protests. I can also post the intellectuals and the educated of Borama denouncing the weak secession dreams so I have no idea what this little video you posted proves You said majority is opposed, the flag they were carrying during the Killings in 2011 2012 is the Argentina flag you can post is , they one time waved the Blue flag that was in 2009 during the killings. The majority of them support of SL , i doubt they want a union with Somalia. When their most intellectual said there is nothing for them in Mogadishu.

Apophis are you saying in other regions of SL they do now chew my oo my maybe you have not been to other regions of SL

The Zack;940253 wrote: You mean they will be killed? Amin is referring to the people's beliefs. It is a known fact that majority of reer Awdal are NOT for secession. Meesha cidiina baa xoog ku heysato. Are you saying they were pretending 23 years in Borama listen from 2:55 I think the latest most pro union intellectual from that region is leaving Somalia Mr Samatar.

According to Amins map , hargeisa is in Owdal state:D By the way khatumo is a sub region of Somaliland , operating in the far eastern districts of Sool boocame and taleex. Khatumo is a vassal sub region of Somaliland

Xisbil Xaakimka Kulmiye oo Taageeray Go’aankii uu Madaxweynaha Somaliland ku Sheegay in aanay Somaliland ka Qaybgaleynin Shirka London.(HALKAN KA DHAGAYSO) Hargeysa(Waaheen) Guddomiye Ku-xigeenka Kowaad ee Xisbiga Tallada dalka Haya ee Kulmiye Muj.Maxamed Kaahin ayaa Sheegay in Xisbiga Kulmiye uu taageerayo Go’aankii madaxweynaha Somaliland ka Qaadtay Shirka London uga furmaya Somaliya ee dhaqaalaha loogu ururinyo. Maxamed Kaahin Waxaa uu sheegay in Somaliland Shirkaasi Khuseynin, Somaliland aanay ka qaybgaleynin. Siddaasi waxaa uu ku sheegay Shir jaraa’id oo uu ka qabtay Xarunta Xisbiga kulmiye ee maglada hargeysa. Guddomiye Kuxigeenka kowaad Maxmed Kaahin Waxaa shirka ku wahelinayey Ismaciil Aadan Cisman, Iyo Xasaas Gaafadhi, iyo Xubno kale oo ka tirsan Xisbiga Kulmiye. http://waaheen.com/?p=64222

Its official guys Somaliland is not going to the London conference , this is the best news ever

Madaxweynaha Somaliland oo ku celiyay inaanay Somaliland ka qayb galayn Shirka Ingiriiska ee uu David Cameron ku martiqaaday Waxa uu daadifaynta shirkaas u cuskaday go’aamadii ka soo baxay wada hadaladii Londan, Turkiga iyo Dubai ee Somaliya iyo Somaliland yeesheen London(Waaheen) Madaxweynaha Somaliland Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud Siilaanyo ayaa ku adkaystay mawqifkii uu ka taagnaa shirka London waxaanu xalay qudbad uu go’aankiisa ku ayidayo ka jeediyay xaflad Qurba joogta Reer Somaliland ee Ingiriisku u sameeyeen. Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ayaa qaadacaada shirka Ingiriiska u adeegsaday qodobadii ka soo baxay wada hadaladii Somaliland iyo Somaliya ku yeesheen Dalalka Ingiriiska, Turkiga iyo Abu-dabai kuwaas oo ay ku cadaayeen in Somaliland iyo Somaliya si siman u wada hadlaan beesha Caalamkuna ku dhex dhexaadiso, waxaanu isagoo qoddobadaas xusaya u cadeeyay Jaaliyadda Somaliland inaanu shirka Londan ku qabsoomaya aanay ka qayb gali doonin Somaliland. Hadalka Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ayaa ku soo hagaagaya laba maalmood kadib kulankii ay wada yeesheen Raysal wasaaraha Dalka Ingiriiska David Cameron kaasoo uu Madaxweynaha Somaliland kaga dalbaday in uu si uun Somaliland uga soo qayb gasho shirkaasi sida uu sheegay wasiirka Madaxtooyadda Somaliland. Jawaabta uu Madaxweyne Siilaanyo codsigaasi ka bixiyay waxa uu wasiirka Madaxtooyaddu ku sheegay in uu ka biyo diiday isla markaana uu Madaxweyne Siilaanyo u sheegay in uu ka soo fikirayo isla markaana uu talo kula noqonayo Hay’adaha qaranka ee go’aanku ka dhaxeeyo. Sida ay ilo wareedyo Madaxtooyadda ka ag dhawi Waaheen u sheegeen Madaxweyne Siilaanyo la tashiyo uu kala sameeyay Guddoomiyayaasha Xisbiyada iyo Qurba joogta Somaliland kadib soo jeedinta Raysal wasaaraha Ingiriiska waxay go’aansadeen in Madaxweyne Siilaanyo ku hogaamiyo go’aankoodii hore ee ay ku qaadaceen shirkaasi oo ay u arkeen mid aan Somaliland meeli uga banaanayn. Madaxweyne Siilaanyo sida lagu wado waxa uu isla manta uu duuli doona Dalka Maraykanka halkaas oo la filayo inuu kula kulmi doono madaxda Dalkaasi oo la filayo waxyaabaha ay ka wada hadli doonaan inay ka mid noqon doonto Arrinta Raysal Wasaaraha Ingiriisku kala hadlay lafteeda. Si kasta ha ahaatee Xukuumadda Somaliland iyo shacbigeeda ayaa meel adag ka taaqan qadiyadda Gooni-isu-taaga waxaanay Cod aqlabiyad ah ku meel mariyeen Xorriyadooda dhiiga badan ku daatay.

Brother mintid somaliland will not go to the conference this is fantastic news for somaliland.

AfricaOwn;940098 wrote: Why is Cirro there? He is still the speaker of Parliament, and he was with the Turkish delegation so he went along with them.

I feel much better now i can sleep well tonight

The foreign minister is now saying SL will not attend the conference?

Watch it here live http://somalilandlive.com/view.php?id=4156 Dr bidaar is speaking now

Waftigii Madaxwayne Siilaanyo oo la Kulmay Jaaliyadda Somaliland ee UK iyo Munaasabadii oo si toos ah uga Socota Mermaid Center La soco Goor dhaw Warbixinta iyo Sawiradda Xafladaasi oo hadda si toos usocota............... London (GNS)- Waftigii Maxadaxwaynaha Somaliland Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) oo caawa la kulamay Jaaliyadda Somaliland ee Dalka UK, Munaasabad si heersare ah loo soo Agaasimay oo hadda ka socota Hoolka Xafladaha ee Mermaid Center ee magaalada London ayaa ku Bilaabantahay jawi Fiican. La soco Goor dhaw Warbixinta iyo Sawiradda Xafladaasi oo hadda si toos usocota iyo madaxwaynaha iyo Waftigiisa oo Jaaliyadda uga warami doona Xaalada Dalka halka ay marayso iyo ujeedada socdaalkooda. Filo goor dhaw sawirro iyo warbixinta

Xaglatoosiye is a hard working man well done Mr xaglo.