How can they bring in a failed politician this party will be a failure if cabdi cawar joins

Homunculus;939692 wrote: A Somalia wide referendum is not logical, but even allowing a referendum in Somaliland will be a Pandora box in Africa and open the door for many secession movements that have bigger grievances than Somaliland. Even a framework for a referendum could prove very complicated and and make it impossible especially in the eastern regions. I find the idea quite ludicrous. A referendum for Somaliland is feasible . other secession movements have been defeated by the mother country. Somaliland is quiet different it united with Somalia in 1960 and withdrew from the union in 1991. One side is still not in agreement, for the Somalilanders the union is long dead. Matter infact the AU will support and bless a UN supervised referendum if both Mogadishu and Hargeisa agree on it. In 2005 the African union send a fact finding mission to Somaliland and they said that Somaliland case for statehood should not be considered an open pandora box for other secessionist enclaves in the African continent.

Apophis;939689 wrote: why do we (Somalia) insist on keeping this gangrened leg? We should cut it off, blockade it (North Korea style) and keep on rolling. We need nothing from that desert wasteland. Apophis that is all Somaliland want, but in reality the Koonfurians and some segments of the koonfurians some more than others view Somalilanders and the Somaliland republic as people of great value. They know that the Somalilanders are the most creative in the horn the most outspoken people and ofcourse the best organizers may it be building states and very democratically capable. The Somalilanders are trend setter. Apophis you are a rational lad because you did not grew up in Somalia and you are not a pure Koonfurian, so i see where you are coming from.

^^ I think you should stick to galkacyo politics.

^^ Its a conference on Somalia, carafaat are you a flipflopper in the other thread you said i dont get what Somaliland benefits from the conference and now you are saying the 2 conferences are the same. Maybe you dont know but this upcoming conference is chaired by hassan culusow and david Cameron. There is no room for Somaliland do you think Somaliland will gain anything if it attends a conference for Somalia led by Somalia.

AfricaOwn;939661 wrote: Eng. Faisal message needs to be consistent and I hope that he takes a strong stance against the London conference. Indeed Ucid and wadani stance should be no to the London conference and they should prepare organize the masses in SL. The hell with AID and the beggar mentality, Somaliland status as an independent state is much more valuable than any AID.

Vice President of Somaliland when and where we in Somaliland are ready for talks with Somalia.

“Mar walba oo loo baahdo wada-hadallada Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya diyaar ayaanu u nahay” April 18th, 2013 Hargeysa, (Somaliland.Org)- Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Somaliland Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) ayaa soo dhaweeyay qodobadii ka soo baxay wada-hadaladii Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya ku dhexmaray magaalada Ankara ee dalka Turkiga. Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Somaliland Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) oo u warramayay Telefishanka Qaranka, ayaa waxa uu sheegay in qodobadii ka soo baxay wada-hadaladii Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya ay muhiim u ahayd Somaliland, waxaanu tilmaamay in shacbiga Somaliand soo dhaweeyay qodobadii ka soo baxay halkaas. Cabdiraxmaan Saylici sidoo kale waxa uu tilmaamay inay fursad qaali ah u tahay shacbiga iyo dawladda Somaliland, isagoo arrimahaas ka hadlaya waxa uu yidhi. “Fursad aad u muhiim ah ayay ahayd sababtoo ah sannadkii hore bishii labaad shirkii lagu qabtay Ingiriiska qodobadkii ka soo baxay aad bay muhiim u ahaayeen, kuwaasoo qeexayay dhibaatadii muddada labaatanka sanadood soo jiitamaysay ee Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya u dhaxaysay oo lagu qeexay in beesha caalamku taageerto wada-hadaladii u dhexeeyay Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya runtii waxay ahayd qodobo aad u muhiim ah waxa daba socday labo shir oo midna London lagu qabtay midna lagu qabtay Dubai, labadaas shirna waxay ahaayeen shirar aynu la yeelanay dawladii ku meel-gaadhka ahayd ee hore waxay daba socotay shirarkii noocaa ahaa oo beesha caalamku go’aansatay in labadii dal ee la kala odhan jiray Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya ama maxmiyadihii Ingiriiska iyo Talyaaniga midnimadoodii dhibaato ka timi oo burburkii Soomaaliya ku yimi qayb ka ahayd, iyadoo reer Somaliland go’aansadeen in xornimadoodii dib ula soo noqdaan, waxaanan qabaa inay ahayd arrin beesha caalamku garowsatay.” Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka oo hadalkiisa sii wata waxa uu intaas ku daray. “Labaatan sanno aanay jirin cid aynu la hadalnaa markay soo dhawaatay dawladii Soomaaliya oo dawladu ka baxday ku meel-gaadhkii wada-hadalkii koowaad dawlada Turkiga oo walaalaheena oo mucaawino ina siisa iyo gacan siyaasadeed ay wada-hadalkii sii wado fursad aad u qiimo badan ayay u ahayd Somaliland oo ay soo dhawaysay.” Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka ahna oo ku simaha madaxweynaha waxa uu sheegay inay mar walba Somaliland diyaar u tahay inay goob kasta oo lagu wada-hadli karo ay tagto “Anagoo tixgalinayna go’aanka beesha caalamku qaadatay mar walba iyo goob kasta oo loo baahdo wada-hadalada Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya diyaar ayaanu u nahay.” Sidoo kale, Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) waxa uu cambaareeyay weerar ay koox hubaysani ku qaaday saldhig ku yaala magaalada Caynabo, kaasoo lagu dilay taliyihii sirdoonka gobolka Saraar, “Falkaa ummadda Somaliland waa ka tacsidaynaa ciddii ku dhimatayna eheladii iyo qaraabadii samir iyo iimaan Alle ha idinka siiyo, dhamaanteena samir iyo iimaan hay naga siiyo, runtii fal fool xun bay ahayd maanta ummadda Somaliland halka ay marayso karaamada ay caalamka ku leedahay sida loogu soo jeedo loogu soo dhiiranayo in la maalgashado, waxay ahayd fal aad iyo aad sumcadeena wax u dhimaya dad shicib ahi inay weeraraan goob dawladdu leedahay runtii aad iyo aad baan uga tacsidaynayaa ummadda Somaliland, waxaan leeyahay ciddii falkaa ku kacdayna ha ka istaafuruqlaysato ummadda Somaliland ayay meel kaga dhaceene.” ayuu yidhi Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Somaliland Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici).

Good, i agree with Sultan faisal

Voter registrations a year prior to the referendum That way it wil be only somalilanders voting not pirates koonfurians shabaabians defeated lot all will be disqualified And a referendum means only for the somaliland people from lawya cado to yoocade

Some one is worried:D

This will fail lol

Tallaabo there is noo parliament they are a bunch of guulwadayaal And. Somaliland will not have a decent parliament next coming two years But siilaanyo knows what is at stake he cant come with. Meeqaam sare kursi macaan ba lana fadhisin doona Boodhkayaga somaliland ba ku qoran Silaanyo will have a problem with the masses in sl. Who would want his head if he makes such a foolish mistake

Sayid qardho somaliland could only accept thIs if a un supervised referendum is given with in the next 3 years longer than that is unacceptable. South sudan was 5 years eritrea was 2 years somaliland max 3 years.

:D

SomaliPhilosopher;939482 wrote: But JB said I can become a citizen?? In terms of practicality what benefits am I missing out as a non-citizen? What rights do I not have as a non-citizen? Can a British man become a citizen? Can you become citizen of Djibouti you speak the same language with them to? if that was the case canadians could become irish citizens and irish could become australian

SomaliPhilosopher;939482 wrote: But JB said I can become a citizen?? In terms of practicality what benefits am I missing out as a non-citizen? What rights do I not have as a non-citizen? Can a British man become a citizen? You cannot vote you pay tax but you cannot vote nor take part of the political leadership, and your opinion will not really matter

SomaliPhilosopher;939478 wrote: So if I become a citizen, as a southerner, can I run for mayor? Be appointed as minister? Marry a local without being treated as a foreigner? You can live in SL for as long as you want but you cannot be a citizen nor can you run for office

SomaliPhilosopher;939476 wrote: What if I come a citizen? Or my kids are born there? Can they not partake in Somaliland politics? No you cannot you cannot become citizen of Somaliland and if your childeren are born there they will still be offspring of immigrants

SomaliPhilosopher;939469 wrote: But a "northerner" can be a foreign minister in Somalia. bit of a double standard much? Because your government still claims Somaliland to be part of their country , so in order to show that SL is some how part of Somalia they pick a minister from SL. But for Somaliland the unity no longer exist and they are an independent state. So Foreigners from Somalia Djibouti Kenya have no say in Somaliland nor can they have leadership in SL.

Nope you will be a foreigner

Wiil Cusub;939395 wrote: Madaxwaynahu wuu ka fikirayaaaaa ee ha dagdagin Haadabay yidhaheeen wanu ka so fakireyna it doesnt sound to good Still its being chaired by somalia How do you want the world to take you serious if you sit behind the somalia leaders

I hope they wont attend because it will be a major set back

Oodweyne the brits are solely approaching this issue from their own interests particularly their image of how they want to be seen by the rest of the world and how they are committed to Somalia. If you have followed their policies towards Somalia the last years the Brits are deeply involved in Somalia's affairs even hinting to send British forces to Somalia. But where does that leave Somaliland if they want Somaliland to be there and take part of the conference in order to have their all inclusive image to the world that both Somalia is there and Somaliland is there. While the conference is being chaired by Somalia and UK, that doesn't sit well with me. I doubt how this move by SL would contribute to the Somaliland cause , since Somaliland status is still that of a defacto state consequently the need for the SL political leaders to come with a real solution while keeping Britain as a close ally of Somaliland. And at the same not diminishing Somaliland status. What ever decision President siilaanyo takes it has to be one that the entire Somaliland community civil societies parties diaspora are all backing.

He was a brainwashed kid