^^ been there done that, over here: http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimateb b.cgi?/topic/9/15351 Red Sea wont budge on this one!

^^Are you sure he is born again? I am starting to think all that neutrality talk was a diplomatic play. @Ngonge, Shababs fathers? Like father; Like Son?

It is not only ladies. I heard a cadaan man, no not the one Sol :cool: , say: I've been 29 for the past five years.

iS it in the papers?

Originally posted by Bokero: Here is good part I believe we have an opportunity, with the ageing of our current elites, a new generation of elites who have grown outside Somalia have the opportunity to create a stable system whereby war is seen as a last resort to solving disputes… Why is the mentality of the Western-Somali elites, be they educated in Harvard or Oxford, any different to the elites back at home? Check this forum and, you will realise that some of the most sophisticed views are not really any different to what an illiterate nomad would believe in Somalia. The only difference is that people have learned the art of rhetoric and different ways of camouflaging their tribal motives in Islamic, Democratic or Federal garments. Educated people in West are as much tied up to tribal ways of think as much, if not more. Secondly, are you sure the elites will not be out of touch and unable to solve problems back home?

I bet all of you would love that treatment . I need to send my cv for one these posts.

Many African diplomats have openly expressed fears that an Ethiopian pullout could lead to an immediate collapse of the TFG, as the Somali government is known. But AU Commission Chairman Ping told reporters Wednesday he has received assurances from Ethiopia that they will not completely abandon Somalia, and will remain on the border, poised to return if conditions deteriorate. "In spite of withdrawal of the Ethiopians, they will remain committed, just in the other side of the border, and they will intervene, and the African troops will remain there. The AMISOM will remain there and we'll continue to ask strengthening of AMISOM by asking new troops and also financial assistance," he said. Ping said he is preparing for a number of possible scenarios to protect Somalia and the remaining peacekeepers when Ethiopia pulls out. But he expressed hope the Ethiopians could be persuaded to postpone their withdrawal if Somalia's leaders settle their internal dispute. "This depends on the behavior of the Transitional Government of Somalia," Ping said. We hope they will understand they are there to help the country to help them and they should stop quarreling… So we hope that this will be the case and then we can continue this operation in Somalia." http://nazret.com/blog/index.php?title=ethiopia_to _withdraw_troops_from_somalia&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

this is more like it.

Urban, bro: Should he pay back an interest-based loan? I had taken a government student loan to finance my studies, at the time i took it i was not relegious but ive now come to know that it was a mistake. I thought of finsihing my studies and paying it off, however recently a brother approached me saying that the scholars have given a fatawa that anyone in the west(Canada) who has a loan from the government should not pay it back becuase these governments are financing the attack against our brothers in chechnya. Is this true? and please advize me as to what i should do regarding my loan?. Praise be to Allaah. Firstly: Praise be to Allaah Who has guided you to the truth and has made you become religiously-committed. This is one of the greatest blessings that Allaah can bestow upon a Muslim. Secondly: If the loan involves paying interest when paying it back, then this loan is haraam and it is not permissible to continue with it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Fear Allaah and give up what remains (due to you) from Ribaa (from now onward) if you are (really) believers” [al-Baqarah 2:278] If it is possible to cancel this loan, then you must do so. Thirdly: You have to repent and seek forgiveness, and feel regret for what you did, and resolve not to do it again. And be of good cheer, for Allaah accepts the repentance of His slave when he repents. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who repents of sin is like one who did not sin at all.” (Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 4250; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah, 3427). Fourthly: If you cannot get rid of this loan, then you have to pay it off. If you can get out of paying the interest without any negative consequences, then you must do that, because it is not permissible for you to pay interest (riba), for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the one who consumes riba, the one who pays it, the one who records it and the two who witness it. He said they are all the same. (Muslim, 1598). If you cannot avoid paying this interest, then pay it because you are forced to do so, whilst hating it in your heart. Allaah does not burden anyone beyond what he is able to bear. It is sufficient for you to repent and regret what you did, in sha Allah. Fifthly: The idea that these governments are financing the attacks against Chechnya is something which has to be proven. Even if it is proven, it does not mean that every dealing with them becomes haraam. Rather with regard to what involves helping in falsehood or in waging war against Muslims –as the questioner mentioned – or in things that are forbidden in sharee’ah, it is not permissible to help in that or to get involved in it. And Allaah knows best. http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/9700/student%20loan

but you still have a good opinion of me, so maha. I'm rich from the Qalbi. ( good night folks)

These days it has become a norm for every minor detail to turn into a SOmaliland vs Puntland debate. I wouldn't be surprised if the following argument took place: Somaliland supporter: Somebody let off some gas in Somaliland. Puntland Supporter: Well, somebody farted louder in Puntland. Southside crew: A wadad let off some gas and 200 Xabashis died.

^^lol, Aaliyah you are so gullible, though in a sweet way. I study for a living, and if I had that amount of money, I would share it

A@T, a conspiracy theorist would say that their withdrawl is being purposely delayed- in order to allow for the new parliament to be formed. In other words, the people should have a little patience and take Ethiopian missiles for a little while longer, till the seating arrangements are sorted out. go figure.

Oodweyne, if you were sent to the firing squad, you would have to shorten your last words,probably to something less than a 3000 word essay.

^^ Aaliyah, I do that on most nights.

^^don't edit your post, now.

For real, these pirates are embarrasing us now. All these non Somalis keep asking me, like I am suppose to have some secret contacts with them.

lol@ gobolist.

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: I only hear the punties in the political section of this forum over using this word. Who else uses it? u have an example here ?

They might have double posts for each ministry/office. One minister will work from monday-wednesday and the other will work on thursday, saturday and sunday.

^^yo, I aint in the da mood 2day. So mind your own Biz, and comb your hair, homeboy.

^^And labelling poor Muslim refugees as flies, who need to be deported en masse- is Islamic, is it? These are your own words, bro: http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/t opic/9/16279#000007

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: Adigu maxaad uga xanaaqaysaa civilazation ?? ,, Because this confused person goes around portraying other Somalis as literally uncivilized flies, who are naturally backwards, and in need o lesson on the arts of civilization. Of course, you, as a fellow gentleman from Andalus, may not have problems with those types of views.

oh shut up, please, you sound like that Austrian right wing leader, except the farax version who believes in the supremacy of his town. (ps.that had to be said). This guy wuxu ku washey civilization, as if you are the founder of the greek civilization.

Norf Bregrin= Freind Nang= Cool/Wicked Alie= So maha de/true Though my slang is slippin these days, as they would say.