Originally posted by Gheelle.T: quote:p.s.... the guy is not a suju. He was born in Aden came to the UK at a young age and has worked hard. He originates from burco. How could we all miss this? This guy is our own NGONGE .. The man was born in 1957, saaxib. (I am only two years older than young Curly there).

^^ Fine. Lets play it your way. In what esteem would you say that the natives of Sool hold these 'elites' (or as everyone else calls them: Garads)? When you compare it to the SL situation in the 90s, are you really saying the SL elders of the time were complaining about being occupied/mistreated (or whatever the current complaints are) by Egal? Have the people of Sool fell out with PL/Somaliweyn or even had a war with them? Is there historical mistrust like the one the people of SL had (at the time) with anything southern? I agree with you about wooing the public in Sool but doubt that vilifying their elders is the right way to go about it, saaxib. Clan is EVERYTHING and if the mind-set you're showing is the accepted policy of SL, I do not blame the Sool 'elites' for trying to fight for their region (because clan is everything). Take a step back and have yourself another look, saaxib.

^^ Where were the majority between 2003 and 2007? Why did they not kick PL out? Adeer dee naga daa this habit of looking at things with only one eye. Ta kale fur aad Garowe argtid.

^^ He's as blind as you and Ayoub. But he'll come round. You'll all come round.

^^ Though I am on your side, I have to respectfully say that you (and my guru) are talking nonsense here. If what you're after were a tit-for-tat or a humbling of PL, then I'd say you are on the right track and probably won the argument (for now). However, if what you wrote above was an actual analysis of the situation, I fear your bias has got the better of you. You talk of those in SOOL who are pro SL with the confidence of someone who has never experienced political betrayal before. Yet you have, and you must surely remember how things panned out in 2003. If we are being truthful here, I think the real leanings of the people of SOOL are really unknown (even to themselves it seems). The strong man in LA believes his interests lie with SL but the same man, not so long ago, also believed that his interests are better served by PL (could you guarantee he will not switch again?). The Garads and others, today, believe that they should stick with their cousins in PL, yet, with diplomacy and some bribery, they could easily change their minds and decide that the sun really rises on the SL side. Until and unless the SOOL leaders and elders are in agreement on where they stand and what they want to be, any talk of an SL or PL victory is presumptuous. SL should have let those elders have their meeting and come out with a declaration one way or another.

Sayid is a fussy Somalian.

How can I do that?

Provide a phone number.

Max, I did not change a word of it, saaxib. I posted that rubbish exactly in the same way I got it.

Text sent to me last night (no idea from whom). "fresh prince of somalia: in west mogdishu born & raised, in the mud house where i spent most of my days...chillin out relaxin & eating some bataato chattin too mataano while drinking on sum caano..when a couple of shabab who were up 2 no good startin making dhibaato in my neighbourhood they made a right old mess and abo....got scared he said your moving 2 you adheer in burco instead." The backlash against the Shabab has started. Even the fish kids are making fun of them now.

Originally posted by Oz: Should Wenger trust Campbell's 35-year-old legs with the task at hand, the likes of Rooney, who has five goals in two games, and Chelsea's powerhouse marksman Didier Drogba await? [/QB] And David NGOG, don't forget David warya. Arsenal will have to beat United but I reckon it will be a draw. Wenger called Villa a long ball team.

^^ He will be gone. I am sure of it. He broke the golden rules. Plus, he upset the delicate balance in SOL. The unspoken rule has always been three PL members to every one SL member. The new influx of Nomads (by my reckoning) has been five PL nomads to every one SL nomad (and I include reer SOOL in the SL numbers).

^^ He is Lucas and he's better than all the above at his job (well, maybe not Essien). I'll give you until the end of the season and then I'll preen as you change your mind and follow the crowd.

^^ He was on a yellow card already. I think he's gone. Carry on, Xiin. I'm listening. You were saying...

^^ Gilberto won the world cup.

^^ I am not an England fan dee. (that's Norf). I actually don't care who wins it this time. No, I tell a lie. I want Maradona to win it.

Originally posted by Dajiye: ^ War isagu guul wada yaasha ayuu ka mid ahaa. Bal Hunguri soo waydii... Where is Jb to reply to this. Where is Hunguri to confirm or deny? I'm keeping my mouth well shut (having spoken to both men about this in the past).

^^ He's no Alonso, saaxib. But he has the potential to become a better player than Alonso. All I'm saying (and have been saying) is that he is not as bad as you make him sound. He has been one of the few performing players for Liverpool this season (which is why the manager keeps playing him). Ayoub, That's because you have not been watching Liverpool games recently. The boy has been playing really well.

^^ I'll be going to watch England's game against Egypt in March. So you don't think the English can win the world cup?

^^ Good riddance. Now if Bable were to follow him we'll be on the way up again.

^^ I still think Algeria are not as good a team as Egypt, saaxib. It's all about who is on form on the day. Egypt look good (from what I hear - having hardly watched much of the games).

We drew. The title looks out of our hands now. Fourth place is still a formality.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: If you didn't watch yesterday's match, you missed one of the greatest footabll games in the last couple of years. Just imagine the outragrous touches and silky passes of Zidane, and that was what Maghni was doing. Algeria completely outplayed Ivory coast. The Arabs didn't prove clinical. In fact, Algeria missed more than 10 open chances which were hard to miss. The scoreline should have read 10-3! I think Algeria and Egypt is on the offing. And I will put my money on the Algerians once again. Their defence is very organised, midfield is fantastic, but the attack is their biggest problem. I think Egypt will beat Cameroun, and we will have another football war. On paper, Egypt are stronger and they look better on the field as well, but I have this feeling the Masri's are in for another shock, as they will be the tense ones who have to prove something! I think the only difference here is the form of Ahmed Hassan. He's been playing great football in this cup and I reckon he'll give teh north Africans a run for their money. Egypt all the way.

Originally posted by Dabshid: The guy will buy his way out, the sentence will be reduced, and he will pay some money to victim's family Not in such a case, saaxib. The society wont allow it.

^^ You cannot reason with testosterone-faith, saaxib.