Arafaat

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  1. 23 hours ago, galbeedi said:

     

    Hadaba waxa isweydiin leh maxaa ku kalifay dadkaan in ayaga oo casiir ku cabaya Khaliijka Carabta in ay ku dhawaaqaan jabhad hubaysan oo saldhig ka dhigata dalkii markaa cadawgeena ahaa ee Ethioipia?

    Dhawr sobobood ayaan is leeyahay way ku kaifeenn dadkan ka midka ahaa dabaqada dhexe ee Khaliijka joogay.

    Waxa ka mid ah ........... la soco qeybta kale......

    I will respond when you finish your writing and explain what the possible reasoning was for people to the start an armed struggle against the socialist autocracy. 


  2. Excellent move by the President of Somaliland, and Prime-Minister/President of Somalia showing true Diplomacy, Empathy, Solidarity and Somalinimo, the ingredients of the kind of true Statesmanship Somali people need,  irrelevant of leaders political differences, past occurrences and underlying motives and goals. 


  3. On 3/31/2022 at 4:47 AM, galbeedi said:

    Xaaji,

    It is no ones intention here to minimize the death of civilians in that horible Hargeisa war instigated by SNM. As I said many times, " Shacabka Soomaaliyeed waa Xalaal" whereever they are. 

    It is true a war to dislodge the city from the rebels who stormed Hargeisa had caused extensive damage. Yet no one ever mentions the the war that went on from 1991-193 in Hargeisa itself which did also extensive damages, especially down town Hargeisa . Burco was almost intact in 1991. People abandoned the city in thousands to avoid the " Maryo Alool" war. A new town was created in 1994 and many veterans of the rebels died in that war.

    Also, everyone including Ahmed Siilaanyo said it " was a bad idea" to storm the city. After MInigestu and Siyaad Barre made the IGAD accord in Djibouti in 1987, the rebels knew they were going to be homeless. They dispatched their weapons through local trucks caryying milk and goods to Hargeisa while the play boy general Morgan was partying. When Morgan was told about the weapons being smuggled and rebels entering the city he said' "Daaya ha soo galaane". He thought they were abandoning the Ethiopian bases.

    THen suddenly in May 28, 1988 the war started within the city. What would the army and the government do? abandon the second capital of the republic for bunch rebels by Mengistu, the arch enemy of Somalia ? NO, they have to do what ever it took to dislodge the rebels from the city.

    Allah knows how many died, but a war that took mostly in certain parts of the city that took place less than three weeks couldn't kill thousands, but hundreds. After three weeks, the rebels left, tens of thousands became refugees in Ethiopia and the war changed to guerrila  hit and run until 1991.

    Personally, i put more weight in terms of victims for people who were arrested, shot or abused because of belonging to the Habro clan, SSDF community or others without trial. This were the real victims. I am not diminishing the victims of Hargeisa war, but that war can not only be blamed for the military government. For GOD sake Mohamed I EGAL waged a war in the east to save his new government formed in Borama in 1993 and killed thaousands to safe his new " Maanul". If Egal who controled few towns in west of Sheikh town waged war to keep his government, imagine the Somali National governmt in nineteen eighties?

    Look at Ukraine today, after the bombardment of 5 weeks weeks by the second largest army in the world, the death tall of the civilians didn't even reach 2000 people yet. Or look at Syria, were cluster bombs were used and cities flatened, the death in 10 years are half million. I can assure that when the first artellary was heard in Hargeisa evertyone moved to the other towns and borders to Ethiopia. it was the quickest war in terms of military engegement. The Burco war lasted a week.

    Cid walba hadday naxnaxiso dhibkeeda xal la gaadhi maayo. 

     

    Baala Xoofto,

    I would  take with grain of salt anything Yusuf Graad says who was a member of the USC group in the nineties. We we were their and we don't need CNN or BBC tell us about our homes. WE all agree that " war is hell". History will tell that the SNM committed some of worst strategies of the modern war in late eighties inflitrating a large city and fighting among civilians. That is an ISIS style of fighting. It was a crime. By 1991, they were almost accepting defeat and were ready to negotiate when the Somali government collapsed unexpectedly. In All, Allah is just and the injustices of the military government made it to collapse so others could make a credit.

    Yet, after 30 years we are where we started in 1991. Poverty, thrust for water, unemployed and constant drought and angry tribes from Djibouti to Jigjiga, Hargeisa, Garoowe and Mogadishu.

    Waxa uu yidhi C/laahi Yusuf Allah Ha u Naxariistee, " Hadaan ogaan lahaa in Soomalidu sidan tahay, duur ma galeen, baabuurna qori ma saareen".

    As Che said,  Siyaad Barre Allah ha u naxariiste,  is gone for almost 30 years ago, and other than big hotels for the elite to sip tea , what have you done? did you coltivated one hecter of land to aliviete import foods and infliation, did you built 50 km of road so people could trade and travel, have you seen even a kid kick a soccer ball or compete against another town? no.

    Raad aan shalay maray miyaan did ugu soo laabtay

    aan ooyee albaaka ii xidha.

    We just lost 45 of of the best and brightest in Hiiraan just last week. Have you ever heard any warlord or evil person dying in bombs? No. They always kill the best including that lady Aamina. She probably knew few things about the double agent " Maruuxumad" Ikraan which has ties to foreign agents. They bombed and wounded her, and just like proffessional killers they made sure she must not survive and made the second bomb. Only sates do that kind of thing. 

    Dhiisi baad moodaa markuu

    afka kuu soo dhaweyneye

    Waa dan gaara iyo 

    dhuuni ku raacdaysiye

    Dhuunta bir la ga geli

    muxuu nooga dhiman waayey.

    I am out of the topic, so kids, don't start with me with the evil Somali Alphabet rebels 

    " Naga dumiyey dalkayagii".

    Allah doori dambigay galeenba garmaayaane.

    Good might folks.

    please mention sources before you state inaccurate accounts of history and propagate ‘revisionism’.
     

    Your point in debate seems to be ‘if’ one had only known the consequences, would they have acted the same or differently with the knowledge of today. Which seems to me a hypothetical questions that’s quite useless to debate 30 years later after events have already occurred and not sure what it contributes to the current status quo. 


  4. 19 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

    That’s not true apart from bacadlaha  and some small  and meesha Hilina

    shops there the all the buildings burned belonged to the same subclan of muse biixi do ur research better 

    their khasaare is almost three times larger the  any other community  any way waxani wax doorasho lugu gala maha

     

     

    Xaaji, your definitions seem to be quite narrowly defined. Cause you forget about those leaseholders that paid years of rent in advance and their losses? And the street and market stalls aren’t they also regarded as properties that are worth value and how about those thousands of informal street traders who lost their daily income.

    the building owners that you are talking about have earned back their investments dozens of time. It’s the small traders that one should worry about. 

     

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  5. On 3/28/2022 at 5:43 AM, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

    If we are honest and I am not a fan of puntland my trackrecord says that but I am sure  Deni would do a much better then the current expired president called mr cheese .  Security is even worse then during Hassan sheikh Mahamud . I don’t think people should judge deni for the fall out with dyaano. It’s an incident and incidents occur. But it has been resolved I think deni has better speech charismatic and better leadership then farmaajo

    Your only saying that because you think a Puntland candidate wouldn’t care about Somaliland and maintain status quo.  😆
     

     


  6. Somalia’s next government should prioritise the talks and negotiations with Somaliland.Not just appoint another guddi consisting of national politicians repeating mantras, but ensure serieus effort through well prepared and coordinated at the highest with senior and experienced diplomats and state politicians conducting the talks supported by senior international technocrats and experts (the same also goes for Somaliland). 

    Even though Somaliland is far away from Mogadishu, both in geographic and political distance and Somalia has many other major concerning and pressing issues that require urgency in solving. But without a clear framework agreement with Somaliland it will remain weak and compromised both externally and internally, externally in its international relations, strength and standing and internally in its state structures and collaboration with different government  regions and layers, which is undermining and compromising it’s cohesion to tackle those challenges, if doesn’t address them in the right order. 


  7. 16 hours ago, Samafal said:

    In way you are right. Puntland was always peaceful under different former presidents. However, under Deni things have substantially improved to the point where Galkio, the troublesome town is bustling with people and business. He succeeded where others including Gaas who hailed from there failed. He appointed competent and well trained officers who flushed out Al Shabab sleeper cells. Many of them were trialed and persecuted and many others are languishing in jails.

    The first point of pacifying Galkacyo is quite a significant achievement and if he has also on top improved relations with the South-Galkacyo/Galmudug folks, then I think that could be quite a powerful campaign platform. 

     

    17 hours ago, Samafal said:

     

    My prediction: I think he will make it to the second round but that would be it. However, he will have a role in appointing the next PM. Neither do I think Farmajo will maket it. There is possibility of Sharif Sheikh Sheikh Ahmad as compromise candidate, taking the helm again.

    Interesting analysis. Deni seems to be quite the sharp business man who has identified an opportunity in the political market, with an open field without any alternative candidates from the wider clan umbrella and utilize that to leverage his candidacy and the few seats from Puntland to gain significant leverage on federal level contrary to the other state leaders.  


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    On 3/25/2022 at 5:52 AM, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

    May taas wa run uun cadowtinimadu wa wax jiraysa ila wax laga badalo cidi wax badalaysey na lama hayo whether in Somalia or the Somaliland republic 

    Waa runtaa ma heyno cidii wax badaleysay, laakinse maaha dab baxa oo jira ina shidaal lagu sii shubo ama lasii huriyo. Adding fuel to the fire will make the already precarious situation of conflict intensify, and reaching any kind of resolution of understanding even more challenging. 

     

    11 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

    When you have nothing else to offer to the masses, you create a perpetual enemy. 

    History should have thought us by now that creating perpetual external enemies to distract the masses, can and does easily spread to creating internal perpetual enemies. 


  9. 2 hours ago, Samafal said:

    In the meantime, While I await for your response, I will email him and ask him if he wanted me as his campaign manager and how much he was offering me. Stay tuned 😂

    I would rather recommend him, someone like General Duke or Dr.Osman as a campaign manager, as they had a talent for spinning and propaganda which I have not so far discovered in your contributions. 😁


  10. You state that he can walk (freely and peacefully) from Galkacyo to Gardafu?
    This statement is suggesting or rather insinuating that he contributed to pacification or conflict resolution in different areas of Puntland. Is that the case? If that is the case and you have concrete examples, then indeed he has positive achievements to campaign on.

    I have personally not followed developments in Puntlands politics over the last few years, so excuse my ignorance. I have only seen the President of Puntland twice catch national media attention, first was his speech on efforts to ’mediate’ or ‘unseat’ Farmaajo with the opposition, and second the debacle in Bosasso mind of which neither I would regard as a positive achievement. Hence why you might have to enlighten us and those of us that are ignore of his track record. 


  11. On 2/10/2022 at 1:33 PM, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

    Tigray doesn’t want independence and it isn’t interested in that they had thirty years to do it . They do not want it and onlf have given up on seperation al together. The strongest case for independence in Africa is Somaliland 

    Even if they are not serieus at this stage, they seem to have gathered quite some int support and backing for their case in a very short period. 


  12. 4 hours ago, Samafal said:

    Midka Garbaaharay, a mere village nabadayn waayey waa uu dhaama, ma aha??

    Isagu lugtuu kabilaabo Gaalkacyo wuxuu ku tagi karaa cirifka Gardafuu. Bal ii sheeg nin madax ah oo intaas nabad kumari kara?? Reer adeerkaa Baydhabo banaankeeda baa wiilal yaryar utaaganyihiin oo aysan iska celin karin maxaad Boosaaso ku geeyay maskiinoow, soow faduul ma aha??

    Believe me pray for Deni to become your president, as your people will be freed from Al Shayaadiin in no time. Only if you can bring yourself to like MJs for few years.

    The issue raised here is isn’t about the clan of the candidate but his achievements and his political platform. Non of what your describe above is credited to Deni, but maybe we have missed that or are not fully aware of his achievements, in that case you might want to enlighten us.  
     

    P.S. not saying other candidates are better,  but he currently holds an executive office which will lead to questions about his achievements. Same goes for other candidates like Farmaajo, and those who have held executive office in the past should also be questioned on their achievements, e.g. Sheick Sharif, Ahmed Sheick and Kheyre. 


  13. 2 hours ago, Samafal said:

    Al Shabab control about two regions and dozens of districts. If there is right leader with the right the strategy of getting rid of these menace, they could be quickly driven out and dealt with once and for all. 
     

    Farmajo and his predecessors got preoccupied with re-election. Next president must be someone with focus on fighting Al Shabaab.

     

     

    Which actually would be quite good argument to elect someone who hails from those regions, who can build bridges with those communities that feel marginalised and excluded and which have been easy pray for Shabaab, and to find ways to deal with Al Shabaab for once and all. 

    But it all depends on having the right candidate, who can consolidate political support and build alliances and bridges with various political groups. 

     

     


  14. On 3/14/2022 at 4:12 PM, Samafal said:

    Hadii taasi dhacdo D & H soo isma bahaysanayaa oo jug jug meeshaada joog noqon mayso??

    Wadanka ciyaarta halaga daayo oo hala abuuro xisbiyo kudhisan fikrado sidii wadankaan Allah nagu beeray aan ugu wada noolaan lahayn.

    That is not possible at the moment, as long as the war with Al Shabaab has not come to and end. 


  15. 10 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

    By the way che somaliland isn’t a case of secession it is a case of dissulution of the so called union any way now we have  done the semantics u act as if somaliland didn’t sit with the koonfurians for over a decade there were talks it’s just the koonfurians are not real talks and solutions just want to waste time how many times have visited Istanbul ankara Addis Ababa Djibouti London and held talks all ended in failure  so don’t say that we didn’t sit with them

     

    Both sides entered in to these talks unprepared and without a clear agenda and strategy, what they brought to table was lofty principles decorated with emotional talking points for the public. Typical Somali’s.