Illyria

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  1. The problem is deeper I hink than meets the eye. What is worrisome tho' is that his supporters can not see the falsihoods and the inconsistencies, and when questioned instead of admiting an error in their wasys, they cry foul, and start invoking the fifth. Now that he is caught red-handed, Xasan needs to come clean and mend his ways. Otherwise, he can not be the president for all in this way. And it is not just Kismayo, it goes further.
  2. Legality, is a sub-set, and is borne out of legitimacy, the real influence in politics rests with the locals. The men and women who had been deliberating their providence for months in Kismaayo and had been planning their future for years.
  3. Opening Address by the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia SOMALIA CONFERENCE IN LONDON, 7th MAY 2013 OPENING ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF SOMALIA H.E. HASSAN SHEIKH MOHAMUD A few weeks ago, I planted a young sapling in the garden at Villa Somalia to raise the issue of deforestation, and it got me thinking – what does a young sapling need for it to grow into a strong, healthy tree? It needs to be supported with a strong stake; it needs to be watered and fed; and it needs to be protected from animals that try to eat its soft bark and kill it. And so it is with this young sapling we have all planted, called Somalia. We need support; we need assistance and investment; and we need protection from those who try to knock us over. The first period of growth is always the most hazardous; where the most support and protection is needed. But as the bow thickens and strengthens, the tree needs less and less support, until finally it stands proud and tall and strong all on its own. My vision is for a Federal Somalia at peace with itself and its neighbours and which poses no threat to the world; a Somalia with a resurgent economy, thriving small and medium sized business ventures and sustainable employment so that families are properly provided for; a Somalia with values of kindness, respect and human rights, all underpinned by an education system that harnesses our intellectual spirit. So we are here today to begin a four-year process that must begin with considerable investment and support but which I hope will finish with very little. Heads of State and Governments, Excellencies, Ambassadors, Special Representatives, Honored Guests – the Prime Minister and I welcome you to the second Somalia Conference in London. Mr. Prime Minister, I wholeheartedly thank you and your government for your personal engagement in shaping our future and for your support in hosting this Conference. I particularly congratulate you for re-opening your Embassy on our soil in Mogadishu after more than two decades absence. People may ask why Somalia matters at this time but there is a huge amount at stake right now: the future of our country, the security of the region and the wider world, and the removal of the piracy stranglehold on the Gulf of Aden. I know you all understand this and I fully appreciate the political capital being invested to support Somalia. Since the last meeting held here in London more than one year ago, more has been achieved than anyone would ever have imagined. In just one year the cornerstones of a new Somalia have been successfully and peacefully laid. The political transition has ended and I stand here as the elected President of a sovereign nation, with an elected Speaker leading a new Parliament representative of all the regions and all communities and with a legitimate and effective government delivering our Six Pillar Policy Framework – the foundation of a new beginning. Progress has defied the skeptics. Somalia has rejoined the world community. Under my leadership, we offer the world a legitimate partner you can trust, hard at work to deliver an integrated national security plan; economic reform and new financial management systems; rule of law and judicial reform; and an environment conducive to commercial growth. We are achieving real progress week by week, month by month. But challenges do remain. Despite being militarily defeated, Al Shabaab have melted into society and begun a new phase of insurgency and a campaign of terror – an experience I know that Great Britain comprehends as well as any other. Our Constitution is only partially complete. Piracy must come to an end. Millions of Somalis still live in desperate conditions as refugees in neighbouring countries or as internally displaced persons in their own country. And we lack developed government institutions, schools, hospitals, roads, sanitation and other basic services. As you will hear over the coming hours, however, we come to London to share with you our detailed plans to address these challenges. We are rebuilding our armed forces. We are restructuring and developing our police force. We are reforming our justice sector. And we are revolutionizing our public finance management systems. We are driving Somalia from emergency to recovery; and from recovery to development and reconstruction. Ultimately, however, it will be a Somali owned solution that will fix Somalia, but no country has ever recovered from such social and economic collapse without the help of the world. And so in partnership with our endeavors, we respectfully ask for your total and unflinching commitment, partnership and support. We hope that you will agree how you can support the implementation of our plans and put an end to our dependence on the international community. The Federal Government of Somalia has now laid down the foundations for a new public finance management mechanism, which we believe will give enable our donors to agree funding arrangements with the confidence that funds will reach their intended recipient. The progress that has been made in Somalia over the past three years would not have been possible without the courageous support of IGAD, the African Union and our brothers and sisters in AMISOM and the ultimate sacrifice paid by many brave African soldiers. We owe to it their memory to ensure that we do not take one single step backwards. The progress that has been made in Somalia over the past three years would also not have been possible without the committed support of the United Nations, the United States, the United Kingdom and the European Union. We owe it to the publics who contribute to these governments and institutions to see this process through to a successful conclusion. We are also indebted to the kindness and generosity of countries like Turkey, Norway, the Arab League member states and other countries. Your assistance over the past few years has spread hope and belief among our people. We welcome UNSOM, the new United Nations Mission in Somalia, and we are grateful for the consultation offered in agreeing both the mandate and the appointment of the SRSG. We congratulate His Excellency Mr. Nicholas Kay on his appointment as SRSG. We are looking forward receiving him and the new UN mission in Mogadishu. I wish to thank Ambassador Mahiga, the outgoing SRSG, for his relentless and determined efforts in leading the design of the roadmap and seeing the transition through. Our best wishes and tributes go to him. The people of Somalia are eternally grateful. Winning the war in Somalia has been proved. Winning the peace in Somalia will take patience and great skill. We are at a critical junction. The time is now. We have little time today and lots to achieve. All of us, especially those in the background who have worked so hard to make this conference happen, will want to depart with a real sense of progress. I thank you all for coming, and for your dedicated support. Together we can make Somalia strong again. A tree standing tall in the African bush with deep roots binding it securely to its region and offering shade and protection to its people as they rebuild their lives. Thank you.
  4. Baashi, The day is finally here. Let us see how it unfolds.
  5. Tillamook Unlike you I knew he said those very words and more in Beledweyn and in Baydhabo. Not only that he also said he came to consult them in the nomination of the Prime Minister. At the time it was commendable 'cos it was seen as a good gesture, but no one knew he was laying the foundation for his master plan. History will not be so kind to him, but let us still remember he is the President so may be we should respect and not call him any names. Tillamook;946775 wrote: You know I actually believed him when he visited us in Minneapolis and he denied ever saying that Beletweyne folks could build their own administration and that there was no audio or visual proof that he made such a statement. What a munaafiq? Homunculus, Secessionists are a rare breed. A concoction of malaise and madness. The best thing to do is avoid them as if [the] plague.
  6. Beleweyn can govern itself. There will be NO governor or police commissioner or justices appointed from Xamar to preside over the affairs of Beledweyn. But for Kismayo, the government in Xamar will appoint a governor and all its administration. Why the inconsistencies? Why the two different policies?
  7. if you can only re-read what you wrote, and then take your own advise and think first. D.O.C;946483 wrote: First of all, i believe you misunderstood the whole ditty and its meaning or maybe you were listening to another melody while you in visit to this thread, i don’t know! While i am taking your starting quote “Without taking anything away from the vocals of the two ladies on display, I take issue with the lyrics from three angles” For your first angle, you only criticise the lyrics itself without any elucidation of your dislike except the “ deelqaaf ”. The composer (abwaan) of the song had perfectly demonstrated a high level neutrality for both parts (Somalia and Somaliland). May be we as different nations describe the word “deelqaaf” in different ways and that shows our widening differences in contrary to the words that southerners crave to say “same people, same language and same religion” therefore i take that as one down two to go. Secondly angle, you disputed about the word “ anigu baan jees noqdee ” again this idiom replicates the previous illustrations of your word “deelqaaf” nothing else. With triangle, yes this is where the most population of the country resides and also it is where the decision is made and final. If you referring your argument to one qabiil rather than 3 cities, then you need to come out from your shell and be man enough to say that. The infirmity of your afSomali continues especially where you favoured “ardaa over jees”. Ardaa is more associated with single qabiil and can only be confined to xigto or close clan. Where the jees is definitely out of the qabiil context, for instance a one can say “this guy is my ardaa, but not jees, so you once again lost the plot. And finally the terminology of " jeer hore waa taad midnimo, jid dheer iisoo martee ha jeedane joog walaal " intelligibly displays the capability, the proficiency and competence of Somaliland people shown last time (1960s) when the two Somalis united breaking all the obstacle somalilanders faced with enormous flair. The northerners fought back in all hindrances in order to safeguard the abused brothers/ sisters (in the southern Somalia) from their Italian owners who were using these human being as bridges, overpasses, flyovers not to mention various maltreatment they faced daily basis. In all, this verse means “you (Somaliland) had initiated and brokered the lengthy awaited unionship of somalia with great difficulties, please don’t leave me, rather stay. Illyria;946518 wrote: So now reer Hawd are considered reer Koonfureed? What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry?
  8. The relvance of the age was 'cos your response were those of a child.
  9. Now you know why I asked how old you were. moving on. I do not know the colour of your car nor do I care as it has no relevance to the topic unless of course you wish to invent an angle.
  10. I thought I was being very specific. Poetry is the clue. Let me give you a clue: Aw-muuse deelleyda gabay, adi laguu daaye, Adigaa dubuubtiyo tixaha, doo dabaal baraye, Deelqaaf la'aan waadigii, daadahayn jiraye. Do you still think so? D.O.C;946538 wrote: Deelqaaf waa gef ama xadgudub in my part of the world.
  11. Clever, perhpas not, but rationale being, yes. See if you can try this one more time. It is very simple. indulge me. What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry? Let me give you a clue: Aw-muuse deelleyda gabay, adi laguu daaye, Adigaa dubuubtiyo tixaha, doo dabaal baraye, Deelqaaf la'aan waadigii, daadahayn jiraye.
  12. Somalis by nature are federalists. And as the man said, it is about the PEOPLE, and not about the system.
  13. So now reer Hawd are considered reer Koonfureed? What is your definition of the word "Deelqaaf" in poetry?
  14. The good news is the Constitutional Court will be submitted to the parliament for approval, and will be in place before the Council elections begin. This should lay to rest main concerns by Midnimo and Udad parties. so after all Faroole is listening. And the deadline for applicants for the local council elections is set on May 11th. Qabashada liisaska 11-ka May ayaa ugu danbeysa Guddiga doorashooyinka Puntland TPEC ayaa shaaciyey xiliga ugu danbeysa ee qabashada liisaska musharaxiinta golayaasha deegaanka degmooyinka Puntland oo ah 11 May,2013. Doorashada ayaa dhici doonta 30 June,2013 ,waxana ururada siyaasada Puntland ay u tartami doonaan kuraasta degmooyinka Puntland oo doorashadu si isku mid ah uga dhici doonto. Gudoomiyaha guddiga doorashooyinka Dr.Maxamed Xasan Barre oo saxaafada shir ugu qabtey Garowe maanta 06 May,2013 ayaa sheegey inay ku wargelinayaan ururada siyaasada Puntland muddada ugu danbeysa ee soo gudbinayaan araajida musharaxiinta u taagan doorashada degmooyinka. ''Waxaan la socod siineynaa ururada siyaasada inay ugu danbeyso soo gudbinta liisaska 11 May,2012 saacadu markay tahay 5:00 galabnimo'' ayuu yiri gudoomiyuhu. Waxa uu sheegey inay socoto diyaarinta doorashada oo uu rajo wanaagsan ka muujiyey dhankooda ''TPEC'' iyo dhanka dowladdaba oo sida uu hadalka u dhigey geedi socodkan hormuud ka ahayd. Dhinaca kale Gudoomiyaha ayaa xusey inay soco hawsha lagu dhisayo maxakamada dastuuriga ah ee Puntland oo uu ku tilmaamay mid muhiim u ah doorashada dhaceysa keenteyna baahi loo qabo xiligan in la dhiso. ''Madaxweynuhu waxa uu soo saarey wareegtada maxkamada ,gacanta ayaa lagu hayaa sharciyadeedi ,ka dib ayaa loo gudbinayaa Barlamanka kalfadhigooda 15 June,2013 ,waxana muhiim ah jiritaankeeda ka hor intaan doorashada la gelin'' ayuu yiri Maxamed Xasan Barre. Doorashooyinka golayaasha deegaanka degmooyinka Puntland ee dhacaya 30-ka June ayaa lagu wadaa in laga codeeyo dhamaan degmooyinka ,waxana ururada siyaasadu u tartamayaan hanashada codka shacabka Puntland. GAROWE ONLINE
  15. Without taking anything away from the vocals of the two ladies on display, I take issue with the lyrics from three angles. Firstly, there is a "Deelqaaf" in the poetic composition of the verses, which the literati would have a field day, if they ever bother to avail it a worthy critique. Secondly, this line, "anigu jeesbaan noqdee" loses the argument for the secessionists winning it for the unionists. it finally dawns on the secessionists the reality of their being a "Jees" rather than the after-sought "Ardaa" of what was then the British Somaliland, and facing up to the untenable reality at last settling for the triangle, 1/3 of the former colony. So "Jees" is now the brand? And finally, in these lines, there is a fallacy, which the SNL Northerners have been peddling for years in their claim that they were the nationalist pioneers of the union, but others were too polite to puncture a hole through their chauvinistic absurdities. They played a role, but the truth remains there were two factors that influenced the SNL folks to come to Xamar: the nationalist campaign fervour of SYL in all Somali territories including NFD, Somali Galbeed, Jibouti, and of course British Somaliland, and the bellows of USP who saw their place at the table of the union. "jeer hore waa taad midnimo, jid dheer iisoo martee ha jeedane joog walaal." But then again, you will all be singing its praise as if the second coming. As you were,
  16. Things are coming together rather nicely. The election commission is indicating the presidential election will take place in a matter of days. The delay is caused by a minor dispute within the reer Gedo delegates that is being ironed out now. so watch the space.
  17. Ina buura fuul, some of us were not born yesterday but had been around to know the history of the region and its peoples. Now listen to Hilowle Adam discussing the heart of the issue. And tell me what he is talking about. And by the way Shalaad Dhalataye, Waa la shubi jiray. Macallinka;946285 wrote: lool dream on miskiin. You Know if I say no to this project nothing will be accomplished you know that and Zack and his crew know that.lool That is why the current delegation is divided into three block (i was given one, others were given one, and the rest of the D block was given one ) what does that tell you? So, be quite and appreciate you have some influential leaders from Gedo are on this project and pray it stays that way otherwise ....waa laguu yaabaa loool
  18. NN and Zack You touched a raw nerve which Dabrow and Gabal were not expecting you would. Let me add if rear Gedo choose to abstain from participating in the Kismayo conference, which I doubt 'cos their traditional leaders are on board, the same thing that happened to reer Galgaduud in 1998 (to participate in the foundation of Puntland) would happen to rear Gedo in 2013. I am hopefull they learnt their lesson and will not repeat that mistake. Mind you the group now announcing their grievances are allied with the FG via Saacid and most are of reer Galgaduud.
  19. Hmmm, and what can we make of this picture. the looks and the hand-shake. Dubious smiles. Stares away. Eyes never meeting. Kenyatta looking towards Desalegn. Desalegn looking away. Hassan uncertain with his hands sandwiched in between.
  20. Baashi, What measurements are we using to determine whether the conference will be success or failure? Granted we cannot foresee the future, but I think promises will be made followed by contingent clauses be met by the Somali leadership, which could not be met. I am however still convinced nothing major changed from the old conundrum of: Somali leaderships: As always asking the IC to help change the situation. "We cannot do it alone even though we will not listen to your edict or dicta" they will repeat. IC: Show us you can be trusted, are capable of implementing plans, and can turn them into measurable tangibles. Notice one is contingent upon the other, and one cannot be enforced sans the other. And unless Somalia develops independent institutions that could be relied upon not only by Somalis, but by IC partners no country will be forthcoming to waste its resources in Somalia. Nariobi will remain the capital. Xamar will be dim. And the country will be built from the periphery to the center, and not the other way round, as Pres. Hassan and Co would want. Hargeysa, Garowe, and Kismayo are hard examples the IC cannot overlook, even if they wanted to. And let us not forget the economic woes and financial crises facing Europe and America. So, all in all, a slight improvement, but no major change. And Somalis as always will be beating up the drums of the change that never was. As you said, let us how it pans out. Baashi;945723 wrote: IIIyria, My reading is the conference will be successfull and interest groups will pledge a load of green stash. So in the international arena I inclined to back president Hassan in his search for reconstruction fund.
  21. Press Release For Immediate Release ,Violation of Federal Constitution by President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud Jubaland community is increasingly concerned with the attitude of the federal government of Somalia with respect to Jubaland communities and gross violation of Somalia Federal constitution. Since the election of President Hassan, last year, the only active file in the Office of the President, Prime Minister and the cabinet was Jubaland State formation and its communities. The antagonistic attitude developed by the federal government towards Jubaland people is pushing the community to unchartered territories. Somali people have adopted a new constitution based on the federal system of governance and expect the president of Somalia to respect. The allocation of powers of the federal constitution is very clear where most powers lie with the federal member states. However, President Hassan is continuously violating constitution, particularly, section Five Articles 49, 50, 52, 54 and section 15, article 142 of Somalia federal constitution. In reference to the president’s statement yesterday at the Somalia Federal Parliament in respect to Jubaland State, it is a clear indication that President Hassan is against embracing federal system of governance adopted by constituency assembly last year and the people’s choice with respect to the formation of Jubaland State of Somalia as enshrined in the Federal constitution. As a result, We call upon the Somalia Federal Parliament to investigate President Hassan’s gross violation of the federal constitution and continued unilateral actions without participation & proper consultation with federal member States. We call upon peace loving international community to intervene before it’s too late to arrest the situation. END
  22. Oodweyne, That argument would have made sense, only if it did not discount two major factors. i. The nature of the conference, ii. The organisers of the conference - bearing in mind the organisers invited multiple times and asked the FG leadership to participate, and actually lead the process. Will develop those two points another day.
  23. So Baashi the question is how does this hinder the Kismayo conference? I am suspecting the intent behind IGAD's point 10 is to remove the FG from the process, and to advance the federal state formation process which benefits the Kismayo conferenc.