Aaliyyah, You are making a logical and rational argument questioning the perversion of the parliamentary procedures, but the problem is you are trying to engage an irrational person who cannot see what is being risked. It is a tiring business. Aaliyyah;947929 wrote: How can the motion be coined illegal? Questioning the president's method of dealing with a rogue provincial administration while disregarding other entities' right to partake in the fate of their region is not illogical or illegal. After all MP Galaydh was exercising his duty in representing his constituents under a parliamentary arena. Furthermore, he took the legal path and received more than the required signatures to bring it into the parliamentary discussion. This is by far the opposite of illegal. It is baffling that anyone would think otherwise. After all that the motion was rejected. That is the true antithesis of legal practice. As for supporting the president of Somalia, those of us from Khaatumo have always supported every man who was appointed presidency in Mugadishu (Incl. Hasan Sheikh Mohamud) and will always stand for unity and the blue flag. However, our support should not be taken for granted and our rights should not be discarded at the expense of others.

I did not even raise the issue of her being Khatumite, but her question being timely, brilliant, and relevant, which is wasted on Mr. Hasan, as he sidestepped the question, as his intentions are not honourable. And what is dubious about Khatumo? Not that it matters the least bit what you think of it. Johnny B;947903 wrote: That she is from Khaatumo is neither here nor there,, she could have been from Hargeisa and still pose the same laymanish and evidient question and still get the same answer, as it has always been obvious ( at least to those of us who understand ) where the president stands regarding the unity of our Nation. To you it might be as you are drinking from the same dishonourable well, but not to those it matters the most. the sons and daughters of the martyrs who put their life on the line when it mattered. as it has always been obvious ( at least to those of us who understand ) where the president stands regarding the unity of our Nation.

Bingo. I was about the make that point. Mintid Farayar;947890 wrote: Well, I've tried in the past to educate some of the SOLers here that one half of Buhodle actually sits on the other side of the Ethiopian border! Only if some could pay attention instead of pontificating till cows come home. what a shame. 99% of what these people are posting are based on nonsense. Oodweyne;947887 wrote: And some still have the cheek to accuse others of being the whiteman's lackeys. But then I suppose in their eyes admiring even in dearth of some third-rate African dictator and what he wrought in life must be a commendable feat worthy of such public commemoration. ..

Baashi, Will do time permitting, and am looking forward to watching it.

Baashi, The Kismaayo project passed the design and concern stage and is nearing its final stage. The locals have set their differences aside and moving forward in unison. On a tangent, sources close to IGAD indicate they no longer consider Jubaland an issue, and are now shifting their focus to Baydhabo which will be the next federal state on the horizon with Lower Shabelle the platform..

O how I love the simplicity in analogies. And in bringing in a point of historical relevance, which is wasted on secessionists, my point was nicely made, and effortlessly I might add, by Malika in her baboon analogy. priceless. Malika;947610 wrote: ^As they say, the baboon laughs at other baboons red ugly a**'s , forgetting he too has the same red ugly a** ...ahem!

Brilliant questions by a smart lady, but a not so honest leader, who either misunderstood the meaning of the question, or intentionally waffled his way through so many points. He even ‘insulted’ the secessionists – la soo sasabo - is he dealing with a child or a jealous wife - which violates the Ankara accord. How disappointing.

Finally they set the date so the Election commission is on the move. watch the space and be ware not to step on an angry, half-sleep, "marqaansan" secessionist while you are at it. This is the point to underscore " Beel walba loo xaqiijiyey inta ay yeelanayo ayna dhammaan ku wada qanceen"

Thanks Baashi, The beauty of the American constitution is that, while it is based on the Magna Carta and derives impetus from religion, it is a model for modern institutions in the new world. Any one who wants to participate in political conversations must read before forming opinions in vacuum, but then that might be too much to ask for some.

Excellent programme. I will add to my summer watching list.

Date for the presidential election is set on Tues, 14 May. Ergooyinkii Jubbooyinka oo la qaybsaday iyo hogaamiyaha Jubbaland State oo la dooranayo Talaadada (Warbixin) Kismaayo: (pp)- Warar sugan oo ay Puntlandpost ay ka helayso guddaha magaalada Kismaayo ee xarrunta gobolka J/hoose, ayaa xaqiijinaya in maanta la soo gaba-gabeeyey qaysiga Ergooyinka dooranaya hogaanka cusub ee Jubbaland State ee dooran doona Madaxweynaha, deegaanada Jubbooyinka hogaamin doona 4-ta sano ee soo socota. Ergooyinkii oo la qaybsaday iyo Talaadada oo la dooranayo Madaxweyne Ergooyinkii oo la qaybsaday iyo Talaadada oo la dooranayo Madaxweyne Afhayeenka Guddoomiyaha shir guddoonka Ergooyinka Jubbaland C/naasir Guure Faarax oo Puntlandpost khadka taleefanka kula soo xiriiray ayaa noo sheegay in maanta Beel walba loo xaqiijiyey inta ay yeelanayo ayna dhammaan ku wada qanceen, iyadoo maalinka Talaada oo ku beegan 14-/05/2013-ka la qorsheynayo in dhacdo doorashada Madaxweynaha Dowlad goboleedka Jubbaland State. C/naasir Guure, oo aan wax ka weydiinay inay jireen wax caqabado ah oo la soo maray oo shirka curyaaminayey ama dib u dhac ku keenayey, ayaa sheegay in 1 maalina aysan jirin wax la isku khilaafay oo dhanka maamul u samaynta Jubbooyinka. Dr. Cumar C/rashiid oo horay ahaan jiray Raiisal wasaaraha DF ee Soomaaliya , haddana ah Guddoomiyaha Xalinta Khilaafka ergooyinka oo IGAD ay u xilsaaratay ayaa guusha laga gaaray qaybsiga ergooyinka ku tilmaamay guul taariikhiya, lana gelayo doorasho maalmaha na soo haya. Dhanka kale, Wafdi IGAD ka mid ah oo maanta soo gaaray magaalada Kismaayo ayaa la kulmay maamulka kumeel-gaarka ah iyo guddiga khilaafaadka Ergooyinka iyo ergooyinka mataley xubnaha la qaybiyey, ayaa howsha Kismaayo ka socota ku bogaadiyey beelaha Soomaaliyeed ee halkaas ku shirsanaa , iyagoo ku dhiirageliyey inay gaba-gabada howshaan ay ku daalaan , si loo doorto hogaanka cusub ee Jubbaland oo la filayo in la doorto Talaadada soo socota. Sikastaba, musharaxiinta intooda badan ayaa ku sugan guddaha magaalada Kismaayo, waxaana la sugayaan Prof. Gaandi oo ka mid ah musharaxiinta oo deg deg kusoo galaya guddaha magaalada Kismaayo, inkasta oo ay jiraan warar sheegaya inuu Prof. Gaandi u tanaasulay Sheekh Axmed Islaan (Madoobe), mase aha warkaasi mid banaanka weli usoo baxay. Puntlandpost, Kismaayo, Jubbaland state

Just you wait till Carafaat show up and pisses all over it.

Fair enough. There is a reason that I am asking the question. When SNM was being trained in Oror Goto and their army was being trained and armed in the Wardheer zone by Ethiopian generals and SSDF commanders, were you old enough then to know what was being planned? And let me add one more to it, when your ancestors were marching for the British and killing civilians in the Nugaal valley and Hawd terrain, what do you think was happening at the time? try and see if you could answer that honestly, and with less waffle. since their political support for this Jubbaland business is essentially that of supporting another country agenda at the expense of yours.

N.O.R.F, I am not familiar with your interest in all of this, but I will assume you want what is in the best interest of the country, and if so, then you would not be surprised to learn that the overriding narrative for months now has been to secure capital investment for Somalia, and to bring an end to the war language, therefore my earlier enthusiasm, but having listened to Burns, I retreated. N.O.R.F;947329 wrote: Less hopeful about what exactly? Isn't security the biggest issue in Somalia today and for the past 20 years?.

Oodweyne, Can I ask you a simple question? where were you from 1982 - 1988? No details, just in passing.

Come on now, let us be civil and stay with the issues. am only sharing some of the concerns my secessionist friends openly express. no harm in that, and no malice behind it. but as was said, let us wait for a few more days.

By all means. Remember tho' hecklers are your best allies in that they highlight possible flaws in your argument, and thereby making you the better adversary.

Well done to the protestors of Khatumo, Makhir, Awdal, Jubaland and Co. About time people espouse political activism.

Xiin, True that, but you know the realisation of Jubaland hastens, if not lending support to the death of the secessionists, so it is only fair that they remain apprehensive of its birth. That is how I look at it. A legitimate concern for them, therefore be patient with them for now.

Could not we just agree to disagree for now, and wait for a few days to see how it all pans out? And then draw a line in the sand for Jubaland's implications for the country, and that includes SL.

This line bears significance to the Jubaland conference with the term progress being operative. We welcomed the dialogue on the future structure of Somalia that has begun between the Federal Government and the regions. We welcomed progress on forming regional administrations and looked forward to the completion of that process. We encouraged the regions to work closely with the Federal Government to form a cohesive national polity consistent with the provisional constitution.

Mintid, I would agree there is much to admire about the Somali news portals and how they spin stories to fit in a certain narrative and advance their rhetoric, but in this case, I quoted their reporting 'cos it coincided with other tid bits and bulletins emanating from the corridors of the post-conference discussions. Surely you were not expecting the gentleman in question to have raised that touchy issue at the conference, were you?

Tillamook, Remember the example began in the neighbouring SL with the backing and much thanks to the IC coupled with the admirable dedication of the people. So is the case now in PL. And let us hope in 2016 the rest of Somalia follows suit. It is a tested, winning formula. Give credit where it is due. Avoid falling into the trap secessionist have dug up for themselves in claiming to have thought of and started everything and anything under the sun with the help of no one. PDRC oo shir wadatashi ah u qabatey Ururada Siyaasadda ee Puntland. Xarunta Hormarinta Cilmibaarista Puntland ee loo yaqaan PDRC ayaa maanta (Talaada) ku casuntey xaruntooda ururada siyaasadda ee Puntland, shirka ayaa lagu sheegay mid ah wadatashi, waxaana ururadu ka arinsanayeen Xeer hoosaadka doorashooyinka goloyaasha deegaanka ee bisha danbe dhici doona. Shirka waxaa ka soo qaybgalay afar urur oo kala ah Horsed,Horcad, Wadajir, UDAD Waxaa ka maqnaa shirka ururada Midnimo iyo PDP. Ururka Midnimo waxa uu ka mid ahaa labo urur oo horey si wadajir ah shuruud ugu xirey ka qaybqaadatashada doorashooyinka goloyaasha deegaanka. Ururka UDAD oo horey u qaadacay doorashooyinka Puntland ayaa hadda ka noqdey arrintaas waxaana ay doonayaan in ay ka qaybqaataan doorashooyinka, Shuruudihii ay ku xireen ayaa Guddoomiyaha ururkaas Siciid Faarax sheegay in qaar kamid ah loo ogolaadey sida in la dhisaayo Maxkamadda Dastuuriga ah iyo in shaqaalaha Doorashada qaybtooda la siin doono, inkasta oo aan la oggolaan shuruudo kale oo badan oo ay horey ugu xireen iyaga iyo ururka MIDNIMO. Ururka PDP ayaa la sheegey in Guddoomiyihiisi iyo kuxigeenkii PDP ay ku sugan yahay magaalada Gaalkacyo wadatashina halkaas uga maqan yahay, wararka qaar ayaa sheegaya in PDP aysan ku qanacsaneyn sida wax u socdaan, waxaase waxkasta bedalay ururka UDAD oo hadda si toos ah u sheegey in ay doorashada qayb ka yihiin, waxaana dhici karta in arrintaasi saameyn ku yeelato wadatashiga u socda PDP Ururka MIDNIMO ayaa noqonaya mid cidla taagaan haddii ururada kale oo dhan isku raacaan in ay doorashada ka qaybqataan, qaar kamid ah Madaxda Midnimo Party ee Puntland ayaa ku doodaya in doorashadan ururka xukuumadda ee Horsed uu doonayo in uu ku shubto maadaama meesha laga saarey waxkasta oo doorasho xalaal ah ay ku dhici karaysey, taasna aysan qayb ka noqoneyn. Dhanka kale wareegto soo gaartey Horseed Media (Akhri) ayaa Madaxweynaha Dowladda Puntland Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Faroole ku sheegay in ay wadaan dhisamaha Maxkmadda dastuuriga ah ee Puntland waxaana la horgeynayaa fadhiga baarlamaanka ee 15 June 2013, laba todobaad ka hor marka loo ballansan yahay doorashooyinka goloyaasha deegaanka. Horseed Media 2013

And the most honourable partner at the conference was Turkey.

By listening to Bill Burns, US Deputy Secretary of State, who stood in for Kerry, I am growing less hopeful than I were before. Security, which replaced the infamous war on terror under Obama, seems to STILL be dominating the theme. Granted no other country commits more than the US in these efforts from Japan in the 40s to Germany in the 90s to Iraq to Syria in 2013.