^^You tend to askk for yes and no answers these days awoow. Why so? Are you for Sharia law for Somalia that once existed? Sharia Law (whether it previously existed or not) get a big YES. Are you for forcing administrations that are not prepared to accept the imposition of Sharia law (irrespective of what masses want) on the domains under their rule? Without a proper discussion on the circumstances that lead to the above there is very little scope for debate. Which way do you want to go about it?

^^Opinion noted. Now if you can challenge my position then do so. If not move along,,,,,,

^^what are you teaching? Vietnamese?

It has come to my attention that some of the folks on here continue to entertain the notion that I and others hold a contradictory position with regard to the goings on in Somalia. I have therefore gone out of my way here to try and explain my position. It is hoped that those who can refute this position try to do so using their intellect rather than their clan prejudices’ and the very convenient ‘yeah but no but yeah but’. It is time to put up or shut up so to speak. I will answer all questions put forth (unless I think I have already done so). I will maintain my Sharaf (Sharaftaan ka raacayaa waligiin ma maqasheen?) and answer the questions posed as clearly and unequivocally as possible for those of the somewhat simple-minded (whether genuine or chosen in this instance out of pride or clan bias). It is hoped that once this rebuttal is read and digested, any questions in relation to it would encompass the whole piece rather than deliberately misininterpreting one line at a time whilst trying to play-up to the audience. Are you ready Duke? Are ready simpletons? (young and old). . If this is genuine, why have we never seen any anti Ethiopian demonstrations in Somaliland for the plight of the Somali’s? I thought you and others were interested in MY stance on the wretched TFG/Ethio alliance? What does the above question have to do with, wait for it, MY, ie me (Northerner Bin Ahmed Al Burcaawi), stance? Difficult as it may be for the somewhat simple minded folks (again this is probably deliberate in a refusal to accept they are wrong in their own stance and/or still have the advice of the ‘Tolka’ ringing in their ears), my own personal stance (and that of many others regardless of their origin) consists of the following: a) It is my duty as a Muslim to oppose the invasion of a Muslim country (I have been avoiding this one for a long time but it is time to state the obvious for a few folks). For those he keep yelling ‘yeah but it was not an invasion’ I keep asking for reasons as to why they feel it is not. Nothing has been forthcoming (must be the ‘Tolka’ advice again) b) Concerns for the people caught up in the madness c) Peace did exist for 6 months in a city/country that has been without it for 17 years (why would I not support such a change?) d) Wishing to see a sustainable and long lasting peace in Somalia (yes Somalia) without the warlords (President or otherwise) in charge of proceedings. Now if any of the above reasons contradict my stance on SL’s secession then so be it. BUT DOES IT? SL is seeking recognition by everyone. Agreed, Ethiopia is the main country that is aiding SL in it’s pursuit of recognition but it is not the only country. The actions of the government or inaction in this case I totally disagree with. My sentiments on all things SL are usually represented by the opposition groups and namely Kulmiye whose head has condemned the situation on numerous occasions. But let me expand your ways of thinking a little ya sons and nephews of the esteemed (nephews of the not so esteemed in some cases). You all live in the west. You all pay taxes to Uncle Sam and Her Majesty respectively. Though you’re paying for the war in Iraq, the weaponry sent to Israel to bomb Palestine and her people, does that mean you’re in agreement with such actions? Does that make you a hypocrite? Should you move out? If you don’t want to pay just quit working! Hehe. Going back to the question, demonstrations have not happened against the Ethiopian govnt and their involvement in Somalia. BUT, the displaced people have managed find a safe place to stay in SL (PL refused them remember?). They have found a people who are only willing to help, who have given them jobs, who have entered their children into schools, they have been provided an atmosphere of peace and hospitality. There goes one short-sighted question. . Why have the secessionist junta in Hragaysa and their lobbies not condemned what you see as war crimes? The opposition has condemned it (in this instance I agree with them). The actions or in actions of any govnt/leaders/representers of any particular country/cause/ideology does not necessarily mean that those who they represent are in agreement with their actions/in-actions or be held accountable (see my earlier example of paying taxes that finance wars). It is really quite simple old chap. Leave out whatever the ‘Tolka’ have been telling you (ie they hate us and want to see Somalia destroyed yada yada’) on the back burner and THINK about it. . Why have you been supportive at best and quite when Hargaysa junta handed Ethiopia Somali rebels? I (and many others) have not been supportive but have condemned the actions of the admin on numerous occasions. But are you concerned for those who have been handed over? Or is it just an easy, and hypocritical, way of throwing mud hoping it would stick? Sorry to have burst your little bubble old chap. Tell your mates to come out for a bit of argy bargy. I hope they can stand me having a go at them. They tend to crawl back under their rocks when questioned. Is it time for Norf’s to question the Ethio tank riders in a separate thread,,,,,,

Planders who are guilty of letting EThiopia into the country. I guess Xiin and Co. are also hypocrits. I mean why shoutout peace when PL (the place he is from)has troops in the south doing the killing? I will let Baashi CLEARLY state how he agrees with Duke before I put this thing to bed In the meantime Duke, post more questions. Adeero will be proud

^^Thanks for the clarification saxib. Lets hope the some what challenged undertstand it. “Thierry walks in after temporarily being declared the new spokesman/legal advisor of Somaliland. Commentators commend the appointment of a southerner into such a role and call it a direct blow to the accuser” point. Nicely put . Castro In other words, how can a pro-secession (Ethiopian-lover/friend) person accuse a collaborator (Ethiopian-stooge) of anything? Is that even a question saxib. Does pro-secession automatically equal loving Ethiopia?

Ngonge, read this saxib. Axmed Siilaanyo oo sheegay inuu taageersan yahay heshiiska dhowaan dhexmaray Somaliland Iyo Jabuuti Written by Qaran News Jul 02, 2008 at 02:31 AM London, (Qaran news)- Guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaradka ee Kulmiye Mudane Mujaahid Xaaji Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud ‘Siilaanyo’ oo u waramayey TVga afka Soomaaliga ku baxa ee Raad TV International ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inuu taageersan yahay heshiiska dhowaan ku dhexmaray magaalada Djabuuti dalalka Somaliland iyo Jabuuti. Guddoomiyaha oo ku sugan magaalada London ayaa waxa waraysi dheer oo dhinacyo badan taabanaya ka qaaday weriye Cabdisalaan Ibraahim Hereri. Guddoomiye Xaaji Axmed oo la waydiiyey sida uu u arko tegista madaxweyne Daahir Riyaale Kaahin dalka Jabuuti iyo heshiiska dhexmarary labada madaxweyne ee Daahir Riyaale iyo Ismaaciil Cumar Geelle ayaa sheegay inay Somaliland iyo Jabuuti dad walaalo iyo jaar ah yihiin xidhiidh soo jireen ahina ka dhexeeyo shicibka reer Somalilandna ka taageereen sidii ay Jabuuti xornimo u heli lahayd berigii xornimo doonka maantana loo baahan yahay in la isu soo dhowaado oo la iskaashado. Isaga oo ka hadlayey arrinta booqashada madaxweynaha ayaa sheegay inay dani ugu jirto labada shacabba in la xoojiyo xidhiidhka sookeeye. Wuxuuna sheegay inuu taageersan yahay heshiiska labada madaxweyne gaadheen. Wuxu kaloo sheegay inay daw tahay in Jabuuti laga taageero gardarrada kaga timi xagga Ereteria xisbiga Kulmiyena ahaa xisbigii weerarkaas ugu hor cambaareeyey xukuumadda ka hor. Arrinta jabuuti Guddoomiyey Xaaji Axmed waxa kale oo uu sheegay inay tahay siyaasadda Somaliland inay dalalka jaarka nabad lagu wada noolaado oo aan cidna lagu xadgudbin. Mar la weydiiyey sida uu u arko hadalka guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaradka ee Ucid mudane Eng. Faysal Cali Waraabe oo sheegay in heshiiskaasi Jabuuti oo keliya u dan yahay mar haddaanay Jabuuti Somaliland ictiraafin. Guddoomiye Xaaji Axmed oo su’aashaa ka jawaabayey ayaa mar labaad ku celiyey inay jabuuti iyo Somaliland loo baahan yahay mar walba inay iskaashadaan. Wuxuna si xigmad ah u sheegay inaanay jirin dal kaliya oo Somaliland toos u aqoonsaday laakiinse loo baahan yahay in saaxiibbo la samaysto weji furnaan lagula dhaqmo dalalka iyo dawladaha Somalilandna maanta qabto rajo wanaagsan oo kollay gooray noqotoba maalin dhow la aqoonsan doono sidaa darteedna loo baahan yahay dedaal iyo dibloomaasiyad lagu kasbado saaxiibo taageera qaddiyadda Somaliland. Waraysigaas oo aad u dheeraa Guddoomiye Xaaji Axmed Siilaanyo arrimo badan oo ku saabsan Somaliland, arrinta doorashooyinka iyo gobollada cusub ayuu kaga hadlay. Waraysigaas habeenkii xalay ahaa ayaa laga sii daayey Raad TV International oo xaruntiisu tahay magaalada London UK. Xarunta Qaran News, London, UK Last Updated ( Jul 02, 2008 at 02:45 AM )

^^ I blame the good old greeback this time around Dadka meesha dagani maxey ka faa'idi?

Redman, do you have a map?

If anyone wants to see many other crazy concept designs and some that are actually going ahead Pm me your emails.

Yeah right. I would hazard a guess you were armed to the teeth beforehand just cos you were going to drive along that road On a serious note, visiting is always a humbling experience.

^^ Originally posted by Brofessor_Geeljire: I though in ad na odhan laheyd: that's my new office dawada Check this out >>> http://www.gulfnews.com/gngalleries/galleries/10225234.html Can't wait to check it out :cool:

Archis are known for being crazy but this is taking the Michael! The Cloud is a speculative design for a resort city elevated 300 metres in the air above Dubai and supported on slanting legs resembling rain. frank ling Says: When people cant distinguish between cartoon/metaphor & architectural vision/work of art,it’s a sign of rancid decadence. It’s not even funny! How disappointing & sad Read more >>> http://www.dezeen.com/2007/06/14/the-cloud-by-atelier-hapsitus/

Originally posted by Baashi: No I don't have problems with my tolka . Some are rich, some are poor, and the rest are in between. I help the poor and the sick when I can. When elders try to settle a dispute, or mend a broken marriage or try to put out fires I chip in few bucks. I got nothing but respect for folks who strive to make a difference in their community. Don't highlight only the negatives. I am sure your tolka come in many shapes and sizes. Very true. My only concern is that the good men are on their last legs. What happens when all that is left is people who have grown up in war and people who don't know their culture?

^^I don't know if anyone else understood but I don't have a Scooby mate!

Where is JB these days??

Sheffield are playing today I think. Watch out!

MM, welcome to the real world. A few others on here can do with such a trip.

Originally posted by NGONGE: It's too hot for sleeping. I wish I had an AC. Invest in a fan or two

Originally posted by STOIC: Though I can't provide youtube video(***** company policy) Most of you were probably dusting the cobwebs off your books- if not still under your moms girth- when I lost all my bulshiit thoughts and enjoyed listening to ME AGAINST THE WORLD and ILMATIC (or even the DIARY by Scarface during high school freshman somewhere mid-nineties-I guess you can guess my age now)….... A good selection :cool:

Duke, we refuse to answer! We wish instead to throw accusations back at you. Sound familiar old chap?

Oh oh this is a discourse is it? I thought it was another '4 years and no progress, war, famine, displacement etc' but we must forget all that cos adeero is the man!

Dispatches doing a piece on violence against Muslims? How much of that is down to them?

^^Why are you still in the office? Its been whole 10 mins after your finishing time saxib

^^Hope all is well saxib. Reprot back when you get the chance. Originally posted by NGONGE: quote:Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: Lets have your team ninyow How about this? Van der Sar Zhirkov Chiellini Marchena Bosingwa Senna Iniesta Deco Xavi Arda Villa Who is Chiellinin??? Bosingwa can't defend (see how he fairs at Chelsea). What no Crotia players?