Xaaji Xunjuf;944797 wrote: Shabaab can run Puntland over ,if they were not concentrated and if they were not battling ugandans burundi ethiopian kenyan and Somali troops in south and central Somalia. You remember in 2006 the ICU were on the verge taking Galkacyo but the Ethiopians saved the show.. And Shabaab in 2009 were 10 times stronger than ICU they were ICU on steroids. Xiinfaniin nin weyn lugu ma yidha been baad sheegeysa waxaas ma qurux badana waxa la yidha aniga sida ila ma aha. Amiir Godane dee wa magacisa wa tittlke ku u sido kooxda u hogaamiyo i dont support shabaab or godane. Beentaa again. But the question is if you really believe alshabaab are that strong , what say you about Somaliland vs Alshabaab?

Xaaji Xunjuf;944780 wrote: Abu weheliye Godane iyo shabaab ka adag Somalida kale. kana ciidan adag kana awood badan shabaab waxa dalka ka saaray kenyati xabashi ugandhees burundiis , maxa beenta la isu shegeyaa. Xaxabashi ka adag shabaaab laakin shabab ka adag kooxaha Somalia oo dhan. Beentaa Puntland kama adka. Waataa saaka toogatay oo buuraha ku gurtay. Laakiin Godane amiir baad u qabtaa for clannish reasons

^^No. I observed an unusual slip here.

^^Yes please walk us through how Faroole felt he was not listened to. Because that is not what would any impartial who followed that event would conclude

Actually , this is more serious than I initially led to believe. I hope the president takes it very serious as he should anytime the constitution it tampered with.

^^How do you know what is 'important enough' for the government, NORF? Are you the government to make such a clarified distinction ? you did not answer the questions posted regarding the importance of Puntland or lack thereof . Try again.

Puntland ayaa dowlada Federalka ku eedeysey in fara gelin ay ku samaysay Dastuurka Somaaliya waxayna soo bandhigtay qodobadan oo iskugu jira kuwo la bedelay,qaar la soo kordhiyey iyo qodobo laga saaray-ba. Waxaana maalinmadii shalay intuusan Garoowe ka tegin Madaxweynaha Somaaliya loo gudbiyey qodobadan isagoo sheegay inuusan waxba kala socon ayna dowladda Federaalku baaritaan ku samaynayso arrintan. Qodobbada wax laga beddelay, kuwa laga tegey iyo kuwa lagu kordhiyey dastuurka ayaa ka ah sidatan: 1.QODOBka 9,aad, ee ka hadlaya Magaalo madaxda qaranka, waxaa lagu kordhiyey (magaalo madaxda jamhuuriyada soomaaliya waa mugdisho), halka nuqulkii lagu heshiiyey dhigayo,( maqaamka magaalo madaxda federaalka soomaalia waxaa go’aan laga gaari doonaa dib u eegista dastuurka), 2.QODOBka 26,aad, ee ka hadlaya hantida.Waxaa laga saaray faqrada sadexaad ee nuqulkii rasmiga, ahaa, taasoo u qoran sidan: 3. faqrada 1, iyo 2, ee qodobkan laguma dhaqayo arrimaha ku xusan qodobka 49,aad, 3.QODOBka 44,aad ee ka hadlaya dhulka, hantida iyo deegaanka. Ee nuqulkii rasmiga ahaa wuxuu ka koobnaa 6 faqradood, ama prograph, waxaa laga tirtiray faqrada 5,aad, oo u dhigan sidan: 5, kala qeexida awoodaha dawlada federaalka iyo dowladaha xubinta ka ah dowlad federaalka ee la xiriira maamulka iyo maaraynta waxay ku tilmaaman yihiin lifaaqa 4.QODOBka 50,aad ee ka hadlaya, tirada iyo xuduudaha dowladaha xubinta ka ah dowlada federalka, faqradiisa 5,aad oo u dhigan sidan: 5, xuduudaha dowladaha xubinta ka ah dowlada federaalka waxay ku salaysnaan doonaan xuduudihii gobolada ee jiray 1990-kii, (waxaa loo bedelay 1991’kii). 5.QODOBka 55,aad ee nuqulka rasmiga kana hadlaya Kala qaybinta Awoodaha, waxaa lagu siyaadiyey ( oo ay awooddeeda iyo mas’uuliyaddeeda yeelaneyso xukuumada federaalka). 6.QODOBka, 69,aad. Nuqulka rasmiga ah ee dastuurka, kana hadlaya, Xeer-hoosaadka Golaha shacabka, faqradiisa 4,aad, waxay u qoran tahay sidan: 4. Mashruuc sharci oo Goluhu diiday dib looguma soo celin karo Golaha ilaa ay ka soo wareegto lix-bilood maalinta Goluhu diiday,(waxaa loo bedelay 30,maalmood). 7.QODOBka 72,aad ee ka hadlaya aqalka sare , waxaa laga saaray ama laga tirtiray faqrada u danbaysa xarafka (J), in ay gutaan waajibaadka kale ee dastuurku ku farad yeelayo si loo sugo in dastuurku si habsami ah u hirgalo. 8.QODOBka, 81,aad. Ee ka hadlaya curinta sharciyada, waxaa lagu siyaadiyey ama lagu daray faqrad cusub, oo aan horey ugu jirin nuqulka rasmiga ah ee dastuurka. Oo ka kooban A iyo B, una dhigan sidan: 2. Sharciyada qabyada ah waxaa Golaha sare e barlamaanka federaalka ah u soo bandhigi kara( A) ugu yaraan hal wakiil oo ka socda dowladaha xubinta ka ah federaalka ama (B) Guddi kasta oo ka mid ah aqalka sare ee baarlamaanka federaalka ah. 9.QODOBka, 82,aad, ee dastuurka kana hadlaya, Go’aamo siyaasadeed, faqradiisa 3,aad ayaa si kale loo siyaadiyey, sidii la isla ogaa nuqulka rasmiga ah waxay u qorayd sidan 3. In la helo qodob saamaxa iswaafajin iyo isu soo jiidka labada aqal, haddii aan wax heshiis ahi dhicin.) waxaa loo dhigay sidan 3) haddii labada aqal ee baarlamaanka federaalka ah uu dhex yimaado khilaaf ku saabsan sharci qabyo ah, mid kasta oo ka mid ah labada aqal ayaa Guddi wadajir ah oo ka kooban labada aqal ugu baaqi kara in uu isku dayo in uu xalliyo khilaafaadka iyo in uu labada aqal u soo jeediyo sharci qabyo ah, oo la is-waafajiyey iyada oo laga duulayo iskaashiga dowladaha ee ay dhigayaan qodobbada 51,aad iyo 52,aad. 10.QODOBka 91,aad. Ee ku saabsan, Muddada xil-haynta Madaxweynaha federaalka. Soomaalia Madaxweynaha federaalku wuxuu xilka haynayaa muddo shan (5) sano, (waxaa loo bedelay 4,sano) 11.QODOB cusub (131 ah),Waxaa la soo geliyey qodob cusub oo (131) oo aan dastuurka nuqulka rasmiga ah hore ugu jirin kuna saabsan xaalad deg degga ah, kana kooban 7 faqradood. 12.QODOB’ka 199,aad. Ee ka hadlaya wax ka bedelka dastuurka, faqradiisa 3,aad, ugu yaraan (440.000,) oo muwaadiniin ah ayaa lagu bilaabi karaa habraaca wax ka bedelka dastuurka, (waxaa loo bedelay 40,000) 13.QODOBka, 210,aad ee Ciwaankiisu yahay Qodobbada is-khilaafsan, oo labo (2) faqradood ka kooban, ayaa meesha laga saaray. 14.QODOBka 204-aad, ee ka hadlaya dhaqangalka dastuurka oo ahaa Hal farqad ama prograph. Waxaa lagu kordhiyey farqad cusub. Oo u qoran sidan: (2) dhaqangalka qodobada la xiriira aqalka sare ee Baarlamanka Federaalka meelaha lagu xusay Dastuurkan, dib ayaa loo dhigay inta laga gaarayo samaynta dhammaan Dowladaha Xubnaha ka ah Dowladda Faderaalka ah iyo inta kuwa matalaya loo dhaarinayo xilka ayagoo ah xubno ka tirsan xubnaha aqalka sare ee Baarlamaanka Federaalka. Inta uu laalan yahay samaynta aqalka sare ee Baarlamanka Federaalka, Golaha shacabka ayaa qabanaya dhammaan waajibaadka iyo hawlaha dastuurkan siisay aqalka sare wuxuuna u shaqaynayaa sida Baarlaman ka kooban Hal-aqal, si daacad-nimo ku jirtana maanka ugu haynayaa mabaadi’da aasaasig ee awood qaybsiga ee nidaamka Federaalka lagu qeexay qodobka (3) ee dastuurkan iyo danaha Gobolada Soomaliyeed marka la gaarayo go’aanada. 15. Waxaa kaloo la khalday qaarna laga saaray Jadwalada kala guurka ah (A. iyo B. iyadoo lagu bedelay Calanka iyo astaanta) iyo wax yaalo kale oo aan meesha ku jirin.

^^But surely there are warlords in Mogadishu who hold positions in the parliament , are there not any?

^If he is not important why would what he says matter to any one ? Why would the president visit Puntland and bother to even reach agreement with Faroole? Some times one needs to see things as they are , not as he wishes them to be

But you still have Qanyare in Mogadishu representing his people , why? I have not heard your elders protesting ...

^^That is a wish on your part Be smart oo u labis bahasha ninyahow

oba hiloowlow;944735 wrote: Xaad is right Ahmed Madoobe,Gandi,Barre Hiiraale and the others wax ku dhashay meesha wey yar yihiin majority waa kooyto and they wanna rule dad meesha ab ilaa ab deganaa ^But he says he supports Barre but does not like Madoobe :D

We note both separatists and anarchists wish Godane gets stronger to disrupt the peace in the region. But Allaah has other plans and the people are doing the right thing ...so chill waryaaya and watch the Jubbaland progress

Godane attempted an attack, then ran away as usual This was not a bid deal, the city is well protected.

Yunis;944722 wrote: ;) Even when the targets are tied to a tree - so much for Puntland special forces that Dettoore Osman and others boast daily in here... :D I am sure Dittoore Osman is deeply disappionted.

This guy lives in a city where injustice is the mark and has the audacity to talk about justice in Kismayo :D @dadka ugu badanaa nahay Also Odey Xaad says he is happy with Barre's arrival in Kismayo and hopes he will prevent from the establishment of what odey Xaad calls 'munkar' Odey Xaad also believes those leading the conference are not Somalis from Somalia, he says they are from the occupied territories of NDF and Western Somalia of Kenya, and Ethiopia respectively :D Where is oba?

http://www.warkii.com/nabadoon-xaad-oo-jawaab-kulul-ka-bixiyey-eedeyn-loo-soo-jeediyey-odayaasha-dhaqanka

^^True that. But I still think the president has a responsibility to follow the constitution however inconvenient.

^^Faroole has been dragging his feet to execute these youth. They have been in jail for a long time. Only after the murder of Sheekh Gacmey did the ground shift in demanding their execution.

NGONGE;944690 wrote: ^^ I buy the first but not the second. There is more to the constitution argument than simple timing. ^^Actually with all the disagreement between Puntland and SFG, the constitution is the easiest to resolve. On this Faroole will get his way, and Hassan Sheekh will not lose much other than the little political embarrassment it causes him.

NGONGE;944683 wrote: Horta bootada naga daaya ya shabab (from both sides) and lets try to work out what the Imam is up to here. Xiin, so are you saying that the Imam supports Jubbaland from a "federal" point of view and not for clannish reasons? You know, this actually makes more sense to me than the "tent" stuff. The Imam's history shows to him to be a man who does not get swayed by the love of his "kin". If there is nothing for him in Jubbaland, Axmad Madoobe's brotherly overtures would not have worked. But I still think there is something fishy about the constitution complaint. Surely a man who turned federalism into a kind of faith would have spotted and pointed out the changes long ago. What is he up to? NGONGE, you need not make a distinction without a difference. Faroole supports Jubbaland because it contributes to the implementation of federalism in Somalia. That his cousins are the ones leading it is a coincidence. Or may be not :D. So that is that. On the constitution, even if this thing was spotted long time ago, you must appreciate the optimal timing as it ensures maximum leverage in both politics and publicity. Surely you are not indicting the Imam why he played the nodes when the gallery is in full attendance