Faroole agreed to principle demands from the opposition : 1) establishment of constitutional court, and 2) inclusive electoral commission.

As apparent in this short discussion some in Somalia are more reasonable than others , that is why their argument always prevails What is wrong with absorbing existing regional forces into the national army in a gradual manner ?

Johnny B;946990 wrote: Indeed MM subconsiously expressed a clanish sentiment there, but....... To keep that point stand to reason and preferably a sound one , Xiin failed to that end as he is miserably wrong denying the Governor of Bay the right to express his view regarding what is taking place in another Somali city , namely Kismayo , which is (in my view )an obvious illigal gathering orchestered by a faction of the Somali army due to nothing but for Clanish reasons. Worse is the obvious but never stated reason of why Xiin is denying the Bay governor to talk about what is happening in Kismayo while he sheepishly grants the same rights to the Governor of another Somali city ( town) , namely Garowe. In my view the whole point of Jubaland and Tolka has gone beyond the sound reason of it is the Somali government that is supposed to do the politiking of the country while that faction of the Somali army is supposed to do it's job and fight the terror group of al-shabab. Lastly it goes without being mentioned that the Ethiopian soilder in Baidao is by no any rational measure less protective or more friendly than the Kenyan soilder in Kismayo which cements Xiin's clanish sentiment regarding the forien preference. This military faction has wrapped itself the Tolka glue and is acting as an equivilant power to the federal government since it gave itself the blessing of the Somali people and the international community's blessing to form a state in the Jubas, so it will either be defeated politically and militarily or it will get it's Jubaland and truimf as the mother of that state. time will tell. And i may have said all the above because o fclanish reasons, now, can we utter anything without being Clanish? I welcome our Johny B's views on Kismayo

Wadani;946961 wrote: But some will cry that it's an HAG army. Not if managed well and the army is drawn from all parts of the country , and existing regional forces are absorbed as well.

I think this is quite tangible development...building up the army is essential to let AMISOM withdraw eventually

^^no, you don't tell those stuff to Oodweyne. Hargeysa will deal with the UN Office in Adis , Ethiopia

Jacaylbaro;946941 wrote: Xiin, He even made Oodweyne happy niyow ,,,,, Maalindhow baad adiguna u sacabba tumi doontaa Wallee waan u sacab tumi hadduu sidaan filayo sameeyo , the question is will Oodweyne join us

^^I thought you were pregnant with more mighty stuff. Lets leave it there then

^^Say more, Jamiila. Saying 'Akhas' does not do justice to your intelligence

^^LOL The old man is not naive ---things will catch up with him though

^^We read it differently and we see kheyr for Somalia ---blame our comprehension skills

^^ :D Oodweyne is Oodweyne , sees only Hargeysa and Mogadishu as the deciders of Somali fate We are happy with the communique --call us naive. Our argument is not akin to yours for we want this government succeed in standing up Somalia as long it adheres to the political agreement in place.

^^haye boowe (from Hafun ) :D

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;946912 wrote: For your information, Xaafuun, the tuulo, kama wadi. Xaafuun represents the whole Bari. Dah. Adigoo Reer Xaafuun (err Reer Bari aan kuu jilciyee), Kismaayo qof kale ha u sheegin. Safka gadaal kasoo gal ku iri. Politically mine kulahaa. Yaa kuu dhalay. Eniwey, aragaana waxee 'politically mine' dhasho without kaaraha Kiinyaatiga. I know what you meant by Hafun. Again, I am not from that region. Never visited or saw it. Now what? You are being small. If you referring to the qabiil, which I think you are , then that qabiil is more populous in Jubba than you can ever be. Habaar dee Throughout the Somali civil war , I have never heard a reer Baydhabo claiming Kismayo. What is new now? I am much closer to Baajuun than you, so don't invoke their name in your clannish argument

^^No. there is not discussion to be had with YOU carafaat, you are nothing less than a stinking fart. Now go away to the qusacbalaat from which you come from.

^the IC is wise to not adopt a one side political plan for a country that is in a recovery mode. The four points they supported is needed.

This is great step forward, to allocate funds for specific programs and initiatives . A radical departure of how things were few years back. The black hole is no more...

LONDON (RBC) Waxaa soo idlaatay qeybtii koowaad ee shirkii madaxda adduunka uga hadlayeen arrimaha Soomaaliya kaasoo saaka ka furmay guriga Lancaster House ee magaalada London. Shirka oo mar la galay xilliga qadada ayaa kadib waxaa bilawday qeybo gaar gaar ah oo guddiyo kala duwan ay uga hadlayaan illaa afar qodob oo dawlada federaalka ay dalbatay in laga taageero kuwaasoo kala ah; amaanka, caddaalada, booliska iyo hay’adaha maaliyada. Goordhow oo maqribnimadii ah ayaa lagu wadaa in madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo raysul wasaaraha Ingiriiska David Cameron ay wada qabtaan shir jaraa’id oo ay ku shaacinayaan waxyaabaha ka soo baxay shirka London ee arrimaha Soomaaliya. Dhaqaalaha lagu deeqay Qeybtii hore ee shirka ayaa madaxdii ka hadashay waxay ku dhawaaqeen lacago aad u farabadan oo ay ugu deeqeen dib u dhiska hay’adaha dawladnimada ee Soomaaliya. - Dawlada UK, waxay ku deeqday 50 milyan oo lacagta Ingiriiska ah (14 milyan waxaa loo qoondeeyey booliska iyo garsoorka). - Dawlada Denmark waxay ku dhawaaqday $75 milyan oo doolar ( waana lacagta ugu badan ee la yaboohay). - Dawlada Mareykanka waxay ku dhawaaqeen $15 milyan oo doolar. - Dawlada Qadar waxay ku dhawaaqday $18 milyan oo doolar. - Dawlada Turkiga waxay ku dhawaaqday $10 milyan oo doolar. - Midowga Yurub wuxuu ku dhawaaqay 44 Milyan oo Euro. Waxaa jira lacago kale oo la shaaciyey kuwaasoo aan dib ka soo sheegi doono, hadduu Alle idmo. War mutiyeedka shirka London lagu soo gabagabeynayo ayaa mar hore soo baxay waxaase lagu wadaa in si rasmi ah loo shaaciyo oo shir jaraa’id ay wadajir u qaban doonaan madaxweynaha Soomaaliya iyo raysul wasaaraha Ingiriiska lagu shaaciyo. Dhinaca kale waxaa galabta socda kulamada gaar gaarka ah ee ay ka qeybgalayaan wasiirada dawlada federaalka sidan kan maaliyadda oo ka qeybgalaya qeybta dhaqaalaha, kan gaashaandhhiga oo ka qeybgalaya shirka looga hadlayo ciidamada, wasiiru dawlaha arrimaha gudaha oo ka qeybgalaya kulan gaar ah oo caddaalada iyo booliska looga hadlayo. Sidoo kale wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Fawsiya Yuusuf Xaaji oo wafdiga ku sugan London ka mid ah ayaa kulamadan gaar gaarka ah ka qeybgaleysa iyadoo uu wehlinayo wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Ingiriiska.

This is another reason why you should be panned. You are a certified lair aan waxba xeerin. You should thank god that this is not my site

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;946895 wrote: Adigoo Xaafuun ka imaaday ayaa dad kale Reer Koonfureed, waliba deep in the interiors ah, ku leedahay Kismaayo waa kaaga xigaa? Kismaayo Soomaaliweyn lagu wada deganyahay, loona wada leeyahay Eebbe ka sakooow, martina dadka Baajuunta loogu yahay. Haddaa waa kaaga xigaa bilowdid, adigaa safka u dambeysid taas u ogoow. For the record, I am not from Hafun . That kills your whole rant, does it not? Kismayo is politically mine, but you are welcome MMA, just like I would be in Baydhabo.

This bit is worrying : We reiterated our determination to work with Somalia to eradicate piracy and other maritime crimes, and expressed our support for the Federal Government’s ongoing efforts to establish internationally recognised Somali waters, which will help it protect its abundant maritime resources and revitalise economic activities, as well as end toxic dumping and illegal fishing

^^No you don't. Kismayo is not Xaafun. For you to bring Hafun into a Kismayo discussion shows how clannish you are. Is dhabiib waryaa. The point still stands, for a Baydhabo governor to be talking about a peaceful gathering in Kismayo and Kenya while he is under Ethiopian protection is missed priority ...

^^I did not get where you are going with that NOGNE. But if anyone get his wish without participating in the conference, it is Faroole We reiterated our support for building capacity in democratic institutions throughout Somalia, beginning with support for local elections in Puntland next month.

^You have been very disruptive for this forum to produce any meaningful discussion. You continuously troll, killing promising threads. You add no value other than bombarding with propaganda, accusations, and thinly veiled insults to entire regions and people. You do not belong to this forum in my opinion, but I got no power to do anything about your subscription to this joint.

^^I see , you are going with the perception. But in the real sense the government including the president and pm never made a constitutional argument against Kismayo. What they consistently argued was we have a plan to build regional administrations in the south and Kismayo is very critical for that plan to succeed.