Baashi;945708 wrote: Xiin, That's fine. What's the point of going to Kismayo? Why would IGAD duplicate its fact-finding mission and double handle a task it is already privy to? ^^Diplomatically, it has to. The President requested a support for his plan to establish regional governments in the South. IGAD supported it with the exception of Kismayo. Why because they know what is going on in there and has been knee deep in the process of Jubbaland. Read these excerpts from UN report : 6. Meanwhile, the authorities in Somalia have started developing plans for the establishment of regional administrations in areas recovered from Al-Shabaab. President Mohamud indicated his intention to take a “bottom-up” approach, whereby local administrations would be formed first and involved in the selection of regional actors. The Government plan is to deploy local parliamentarians into their constituencies to assist with the setting up of interim, 90-day administrations that would be replaced, in due course, by locally elected bodies. 7. However, with regard to the Juba and Gedo regions, an initiative led by the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) has been under way to form a “Jubbaland” regional administration. Efforts were made to harmonize these approaches, including during the visit of the Executive Secretary of IGAD to Mogadishu on 16 October, where he met with President Mohamud. On 6 December, the IGAD Joint Committee on the Grand Stabilization Plan for South-Central Somalia, which now includes the Somali authorities, issued a statement in which it committed itself to ensuring effective coordination in the implementation of the IGAD stabilization plan, which includes establishing local administrations and promoting reconciliation. The Committee developed a draft memorandum of understanding that provides a framework for the implementation of the Plan; this was submitted to the Somali authorities for consideration. Meanwhile, a Government delegation travelled to Kismaayo and consulted with local players on ...

Baashi;945703 wrote: Illyria, Kismayo has become an issue for everyone to the point where IGAD observation is necessitated. Baashi, I disagree your reading of #10 awoowe. IGAD has been baby sitting this process from the beginning. Kismayo is an exception to Hassan's political stabilization plan, that is how I understand this communique

Illyria;945694 wrote: Xiin, A protocol related question: Why was the President is received at the airport by a minister? When did this trend start happening? I think that is so because President Hassan was not there for an official visit to Ethiopia. He was there to attend a regional summit.

Baashi, Perhaps you did not recall that IGAD has been observing this Jubbaland process since its inception. IGAD Executive Secretary was there in Kismayo a week or so ago to observe delegate selection process, observing whether recently adopted regional charter is being followed in the delegate selection. In other words, #10 in the communique is NOT a new thing for IGAD. It's inclusion does not change much on the ground in Kismayo. But it changes a lot in Mogadishu. Hassan wanted to subvert the process from above after he failed to do so from within. He failed again. The mention of 'Respect to Provincial Constitution' in the IGAD communique is a victory for both Faroole and Jubba initiative leaders.

David Cameron makes sense , and he is better salesperson for London Conference with respect to Somali people than our president Hassan Sheekh. Pay attention to the absence of a political plan in David's expectation of the London outcome. He hopes a plan to rebuild Police, Army ,and Judiciary. He hopes an agreed plan for Financing Somalia to repay its debt. He talks about all inclusive where all regions are at the table to rebuild Somalia. Not bad

Homunculus;945686 wrote: What a travesty. Instead of welcoming the formation of Jubaaland with open arms this president tried everything to undermine it and ignored Al Shabab on every turn, and now a foreign entity is issuing a proclamation to remind him of his job. That is the sad part, Homunculus. Hassan failed twice this month. Perhaps Ankara summit with Siilaanyo was not so bad

Right on, Illyria . Oodweyne is not reading communique ---he was never accused of comprehension problem, so this must be deliberate misunderstanding For the communique states clearly that Kismayo process is an exception ---and rightly so for it preceded this Hassan six point plan. IGAD, as was the case before this meeting, will continue its observant status at Kismayo Conference led Mahmoud Maalim. It goes against any rational thinking to disband a peaceful gathering simply because Hassan does not like those leading it. It is nonsense , and many countries seem to see it for what it is. IGAD Executive Secretary, Mr.Mahmoud Maalim Read again: 10. Decided to conduct a confidence-building mission to Kismayu led by the IGAD Executive Secretary and composed of representatives of the federal government of Somalia and one senior delegate from each member state of IGAD with the aim of assessing the situation and submitting a report to the IGAD summit to be held on the sidelines of the upcoming AU summit in May 2013;

Puntlandi balances Hiiraan Online http://puntlandi.com/war-deg-deg-ah-shirkii-wadamada-igad-oo-warmurtiyeed-laga-soo-saarey-dowlada-federaalka-oo-lagu-amrey-iney-tageeraan-shirka-kismaayo/

LOL @ Hiiraan's take on the communique did they read it? http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/May/wararka_maanta3-21814.htm

- Leadership of the government of the Federal Republic of Somalia in the process; - Respect of the provisional constitution of the Federal Republic of Somalia; - All inclusive consultative process with the peoples of Somalia; - supportive role of IGAD based on the priorities of the Somali government; and - Fighting the Al Shabab as the primary focus of the Somali Federal government; AMISOM; regional and international partners; And further requested the Somali federal government to align the document with the aforementioned agreed five principles. These four principles make sense.One wonders what would Hassan gained by cementing IGAD role in before the London Conference

This actually helps Uhuru...pictures of Uhuru with Cameron will be very interesting [remember Uhuru has been hastily indicted by the international court ]

10. Decided to conduct a confidence-building mission to Kismayu led by the IGAD Executive Secretary and composed of representatives of the federal government of Somalia and one senior delegate from each member state of IGAD with the aim of assessing the situation and submitting a report to the IGAD summit to be held on the sidelines of the upcoming AU summit in May 2013; Hassan is still struggling to stop Kismayo process ... The only option he has is to stoke inter-clan voilance before the mission arrives in Kismayo as he tried before.

Gooni, boowe waad is yeel yeelaysaa Xamar loogama baahna dib u heshiisiin baad tiri :D, taasaa nagu filan. Masallaha eyga ee kuu goglan isaga seexo . Ragga ka maarma inay gogladaan ha la yaabin, hatha fadlun min rabika

Carafaat , you are being childish as ever Xaaji Habaar is much better in his responses today. Xaaji, Hassan has his priorities wrong. He is seeking international support to settle long standing issues like Kismayo . It is as though Kenyans, Ethiopians , British, & US , Europe has just come to know about Somalia's political disagreement. There was a purpose for the roadmap , there was an understanding for all stakeholders what ending the transition meant . Hassan and his advisers, it seems, are the only folks who do no understand the meaning of ending the transition. For them they think they are the victors---the sole representatives of Somalia in the same way Kenyan leaders are

Illyria, This is very painful realization but a realization nevertheless that cannot be wished away: Hassan wants to settle the civil war in his terms, he wants to ignore the constitution , and he wants to ignore the political reality on the ground. Puntland thinks that is not what it signed up for, and it is not certainly what the constitution informs.

Yes this is due to the federalism roadblock Hassan has setup in Mogadishu with respect to Jubbaland. There are also other issues including lack of consultations with political stakeholders on the Conference's agenda. So Puntland's boycott is justified in my opinion. Hassan is begging neighboring countries to support his political agenda. He never consulted with the people whom his policies will impact i.e. Puntland, Jubbaland , and others. That shows ill intent on his part. Puntland has the capacity to oppose him on constitutional and political grounds. Hassan has been given the benefit of the doubt---from now on he will see a real, active opposition from Puntland , Jubbaland and like minded interest groups in Somalia. Somalia is akin to a new born; it needs a joint custody from all stake holders.

This is not I what wanted. This is not what Somalis wanted. Most Somalis wished Somalia will be less polarized today than it was during transition. Hassan's leadership has been quite disappointing.

This excellent reporting explains Hassan Sheekh's sudden visit to Puntland, and his subsequent angry speech at the Parliament. In a nutshell, he wanted to single handedly design a new Somalia that reflects his views particularly in the South. The funny thing is it is the President who wishes to use foreign forces and money to force his agenda on the war weary, peace loving local people gathering in Kismayo. But AMISOM forces understand the politics dynamics of those regions better than President Hassan, it seems , hence the resistance to his proposals. He is frustrated. Alas he does not seem to know why his people, neighboring governments are opposing him.

Shirka London Somalia-FinalDowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa lagu wada shirka London inay kusoo bandhigto Qorshaheeda ku aadan Maamul u sameynta gobalada Soomaaliya iyo waliba mashaariicda horumarinta sida ay u qorsheysay, qodobadaasi oo ay Dowlada Federaalka kala hadashay dowladaha Kenya iyo Itoobiya oo dhankooda sheegay inay amaanka gacan kasiin doonaan. Balse qodobada shirka London lagu soo bandhigi doono ayaa ah kuwo ka yimid dhanka Dowlada Federaalka isla markaana aan weli taageero buuxda ka helin maamulada dalka Soomaaliya ka jira oo qaarkood qaadaceen inay shirka London tagaan. Dowlada Federaalka ayaa lagu wadaa inay shirka London sidoo kale uga hadasho qorshaheeda baahinta maamulada ee gobalada dalka Soomaaliya iyo sidii dowladu u gaari lahayd guud ahaan dalka, waxaana qeyb ka noqon doona baaq caalami ah oo lagu codsanayo taageero dhanka dhaqaalaha iyo Militariga. Qorshahan qaabka loo qorey iyo weli sida loo qoondeeyey ayaa ah mid aan weli lasoo bandhigin, balse wararka laga helayo dhinaca Federaalka ayaa sheegaya in maamulka Puntland uu ka biyo diiday habka wax loo maareeyey oo ay codsadeen in wax laga bedalo, balse Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud wafdigii uu hogaaminayey ay ka biyo diideen dhankooda in wax laga beddalo qorshaha Qaranka ee Federaalka soo diyaariyey iyo qodobo ay Puntland dooneysay in loogu daro qorshaha guud ee lagu soo bandhigi doono shirka London. Xog hoose oo aan ka helay Maamulka Kumeelgaarka ah ee Jubooyinka ayaa dhankoodana sheegay inaysan waxna kala socon qorshaha Qaran ee Dowlada Federaalka kusoo bandhigi doonto shirka London. Waxaa cad in dowladu Federaalka qorshaheedu ahaa in ay Shirka London tagto iyadoo ay shaqeenayaan maamulada kumeelgaarka ah ee gobalada Loo magacaabay, iyo iyadoo taageero qorshaheeda uga heysata dhanka maamulada kale ee jira sida Puntland, Galmudug iyo gobalada dhexe oo ay ka taliyaan Ahlu Sunna Waljamaaca oo iyagu kamid ahaa saxiixayaashii Road-Mapka, in qorshahaasi bur-buray. Waxaase hada muuqda in dowlada Federaalka caqabado badan oo siyaasadeed ka heystaan gudaha Soomaaliya iyo waddamada jaarka ah, mana cadda in taasi ay saameyn ku yeelan doonto qoraalkii qorshihii horey loo diyaariyey in 7da & 8da bisha May lagu soo bandhigo magaalada London. Hussein Farah Horseed Media

Jubbada Hoose & Dhexe Qorshaha dowlada Federaalka ayaa ahaa in bartamaha illaa dhamaadka bisha April la magacaabo Maamulada gobalada Jubada Dhexe iyo Jubada Hoose, balse dowlada way ku guuleysan weyday inay ku dhawaaqdo maamuladaasi kadib markii ay caqabado badan ka hor yimaadeen. Qorshahan ayaa caqabadda ugu weyn ee ka hortimid ahayd maamulka Kumeelgaarka ah ee gobalada Jubooyinka oo taageero xoogleh ku leh shacabka Kismaayo, Maamulka Kumeelgaarka oo sheegay inuusan oggolaan doonin shaqsiyaad laga soo magacaabo Muqdisho oo magaalada Kismaayo soo gala, waxayna tani keentay in gebi ahaan kala go’aan isgaarsiintii gaadiidka ee dhanka duulimaadka ee u dhaxeeyey Muqdisho iyo Kismaayo. Caqabada kale ayaa noqotay beelaha ku dhaqan gobalkada Jubada Dhexe iyo Jubada Hoose ee ku sugan gobaladaasi oo ay Issimadooda ka biyo diideen inay balanqaadaan inay taageero siin doonaan maamulka Federaalka kusoo dhawaaqo oo la qorsheenayey in diyaarado lagu keeno gobalada Jubooyinka, arrintaasi oo si weyn looga biyo diiday. Caqabada afaraad ee dowlada Federaalka ka hortimid ayaa noqotay dowlada Kenya oo si rasmi ah u sheegtay inaysan taageeri doonin wax kasoo horjeeda rabitaanka shacabka Jubooyinka. Xogta ay Horseed Media ka heshay xubnaha xog ogaalka ah ee ku sugan Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in Dowlada Kenya sheegtay inaysan dooneyn inay magaalada Kismaayo ku illaaliso maamul aan taageero shacabka ka heysan isla markaana kasoo horjeeda maamulka hadda ku sugan Kismaayo, arrintaasi oo ay ku tilmaameen inay Amniga khal khal ku keeni karto. Dowlada Kenya ayaa dhinaca kale ballanqaaday inay bilaabi doonto taageeradii ay siin jirtay Soomaaliya ee dhanka la dagaalanka Al Shabaab, marka lagu dhawaaqo maamul rasmi ah oo kasoo baxa shirka ka socda Kismaayo, qodobkaasi oo la sheegay in uu kamid ahaa qodobadii dhanka Amniga oo ay ka wada hadleen Madaxweyne Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud iyo Madaxweynaha Uhuru Kenyatta 28kii April.

Bay iyo Bakool 5tii bishii Feberaayo, ayuu Madaxweynaha Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya u magacaabay Guddoomiye cusub gobalka Bay, dikereetadaasi oo uu saxiixay Kusimaha Madaxweynaha oo ahaa Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Prof.Jawaari ayaa la shaaciyey xili Madaxweynaha dalka dibada uga maqnaa, go’aankaasi oo keenay khilaaf weyn oo hareeyey deegaanka Bay iyo Bakool isla markaana wiiqay ololihii ka dhanka ahaa Al Shabaab oo ka socday gobaladaasi. Khilaafkaasi ayaa sidoo kale keenay in Al Shabaab ay dar-dar geliso dagaalkii gobalada Bay iyo Bakool oo uu hormuudka ka ahaa Mukhtaar Robow (Abu Mansuur). Ciidamadii Dowlada Itoobiya oo xiligaasi ku hanjabay inay ka bixi doonaan gobalada Bay iyo Bakool. 16kii bishii Maarso, Ciidamada Itoobiya ayaa ka baxay magaalada Xudur ee gobalka Bakool ayaa keentay in halkaasi gacanta ku dhigaan ururka Al Shabaab. 24kii bishii Maarso ayuu magaalada Baydhabo gaaray Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka Prof.Maxamed Cismaan Jawaari oo xiligaasi safarkii ugu horeysay ku tagay magaalada tan iyo intii xilka Guddoomiyenimada uu qabtay, safarkaasi oo salka ku hayey xalinta khilaafka maamulka Bay iyo waliba arrimaha la xariira wada shaqeynta Federaalka iyo ciidamada Itoobiya ee ku sugan gobalada Bay iyo Bakool. Shabeelada Hoose 22kii Maarso, waxaa dagaal uu ka dhacay magaalada Marka ee xarunta Shabeelada Hoose. Xiisadan ayaa ka dhalatay maamulkii dowlada Federaalka u magacowday gobalka Shabeelada Hoose gaar ahaan magaalada Marka, kaasi oo sababay dagaalkii ka dhacay magaalada oo ay ku dhinteen tiro ku dhow 10 qof. Dagaalkaasi ayaa salka ku hayey xiisad ka aloosantay awood qeybsiga Dowlada Federaalka ku saleysay haykalka maamulka gobalkaasi oo xubnaha loo magacaabay lagu eedeeyey inaysan qaarkoodba kasoo jeedin deegaankaasi. Horey ayey dadka ku dhaqan magaalada Afgooye oo kamid ah isla gobalka Shabeelada Hoose u diideen maamulkii looga soo magacaabay magaalada Muqdisho. Gobalka Hiiraan April 2013, Dowlada Federaalka ayaa magacowday Guddoomiyaha cusub ee maamulka gobalka Hiiraan oo loo magacaabay Cabdi Faarax Laqanyo, magacaabistan ayaa ka duwanayd tii gobalka Bay, waxaana aqbalay go’aankaasi maamulkii hore ee gobalka Hiiraan oo xilka si wanaagsan ugu wareejiyey maamulka cusub ee Muqdisho laga magacaabay. Arrintan ayuu si weyn uga shaqeeyey Madaxweyne Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud, waxaana la oron karaa qorshahii Hiiraan waa kan illaa iyo hada sidii la rabay ugu hirgalay dowlada Federaalka. Waxaana la sheegaa in arrintan gacan weyn ku lahayd dowlada Jabuuti oo ay ciidamadeeda ku sugan yihiin gobalkaasi Hiiraan. Gobalka Gedo Isla bilowgii Bishii April ee lasoo dhaafay ayey dowlada Federaalka sidoo kale magacowday Guddoomiyaha maamulka Gedo oo loo magacaabay Guddoomiye kuxigeenkii hore Maxamed Cabdi Kaliil, waxaana 2dii bishii April magacaabistiisa ku dhawaaqay Raysalwasaare Saacid oo gobalkaasi booqasho ku tagay bishii lasoo dhaafay.

Qorshihii Dowladda Federaalka ee Kismaayo iyo Shirka London ee Soomaaliya Bilihii lasoo dhaafay ayey shacabka Soomaaliyeed si weyn u hadal hayeen arrimaha la xariira shirweynaha ka socda magaalada Kismaayo ee lagu dhisayo maamulka Jubaland, Dowlada Federaalka oo iyadu shirkaasi qaadacday ayaa bilihii lasoo dhaafay waday qorshe ay ku dooneyso inay maamul ugu magacowdo magaalada Kismaayo qorshahaasi oo hada dib loo dhigay. Horseed Media ayey u suurto gashay in ay ka hesho xubno ku dhaw-dhaw Madaxtooyada Villa Somalia Waxayna u Xaqiijiyeen Warsidahan in uu jiro qorshe lagu doonayey siyaasiyiin kasoo jeeda deegaanka Kismaayo in dowlada Federaalka u magacowdo maamul kumeelgaar ah oo ka taliya deegaankaas. Qorshahan ayaa sii xoogeystay tan iyo markii uu dib magaalada Kismaayo uga soo noqday booqashadii uu halkaasi ku tagay Raysalwasaare Cabdi Faarax Shirdoon. Qorshahan oo aan horey dowladda u shaacin ayaa soo dhaafi waayey heerka diblumaasiyadeeda, waxaana xubnahan xog ogaalka ah u xaqiijiiyeen Horseed Media, in dowlada Federaalka iyo dowlada Kenya si toos ah uga wadahadleen qorshaha uu Federaalka ku doonayey in lagu taageero maamulka uu u magacaabayo Kismaayo. Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa todobaadkii tagay sheegtay in wadahadalkii ka dhacay magaalada Mombasa oo ay ku kulmeen Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyada Federaalka Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud iyo Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyada Kenya Uhuru Kenyatta, aan lagu soo qaadin arrimaha magaalada Kismaayo. Hase yeeshee waxaa wararka soo baxaya ay sheegayaan in Dowlada Federaalka ay u gudbisay dowlada Kenya codsi rasmi ah oo sheegaya in ciidamada Kenya ee AMISOM ay damaanad qaadaan illaalinta maamulka uu doonayo Madaxweynaha Dowlada Federaalka inuu usoo magacaabo magaalada Kismaayo. Codsigaasi ayaa la sheegay in Dowlada Kenya ka gaabsatay sida ay xaqiijinayeen illo xog ogaal ah oo kamid ah dowlada Federalka Soomaaliya. Dedaalkan cusub oo ay dowlada Federaalka ugu jirto maamul u sameynta Kismaayo ayaa ah mid sidoo kale saameeyey gobalo kale oo ay kamid yihiin Hiiraan iyo Bay. Sida ay Horseed Media warka ku helayso dowladu waxay si weyn xoogga u saartay in bilihii lasoo dhaafay ay gebi ahaan isbedalo ku sameyso gobalada Soomaaliya ee dowlada hadda sida tooska ah u hoos yimaada.

gooni, waa waranka xasan caaradiisa , wax xunna maaha oo hadde dantaa harag eyna waa loogu seexdaa, waatii maahmaahdii soomaaliyeed lahayd. laakiin waxaa marqaati ma doonta in iyada oo xamar weli xero ****** tahay , in Xasan Kismayo u doobinayo oo uu caro bestii la yahay . Gooni iyo ragga la midka ah waxa muhiim ah inay ogaadaan, in rag tashaday oo wiil usc tababarkeeda qaba aan cidna isku dhiibayn inta uu dawladnimo adeeradi diideen ku muxaadaraynayo . Federalka awalba sidii anti biotics kii oo kale baa loo laqsiiyey, dhowrka kiniini een weli caloosha is fiican ugu dhicin biyihii lagu dejin lahaa weeye arrinta Kismayo gooniyow

^^Boy, you are really something So London, you reckon, will side with Hassan against Kenya (if we go on tangent here )?