LoL @@Tukachevsky As they say "it takes one to know one" or in this case " it takes a member to know a Forum".

^^^^^^ Still at it. Ducking and Diverting. If on the other hand the case is as you suggested and indeed I didn't manage to decipher your text then please enlighten me-highlighter, Bold writing what ever it takes brother some of US read large prints only "It is only natural that one focuses on the positive outlook and the promising signs progressive in nature rather than the addictive doom and gloom recitation in your prose" your very words Samuria. One word of advise here "PRACTICE WHAt YOU PREACH" only then will you find deciples. Double standards are acts left behind in the 17th century Britainia and one you are a valour for. Dearest my questions still stand and a lady awaits your replies. As the French would say "Maux que en retard que Jamais" better late then never So chop chop. Dusty.

Samuria, No need to get on the defensive side or has one touch on a nerve. Before I respond to the above article. I still await reponses to my previous questions No diversions and no "ducking" please. Of all the arts you have not mastered the greatest of all--that of being a gent and not keeping a lady waiting. I still patiently await my answers. Perhaps one of the reseaons I dont get replies in due time is you jump conclusions at a probably forgone conclusions trigered by the emotional organ of the "heart" rather than the wiser oragn of the "brain or head". Including my answers I expect you have evidence that "las anod" god bless is the fastest growing of all and that support in Somaliland is the "manority in Hargesia" and that majority of "togdheer is pro Somaliweyn" data even the odd article from the net shall do. If not I suggest we leave these in the DUSTBIN where all the previuos probaganda's ended up. Quite the spin doctor aren't you. man you could challenge that Iragi dude*LOL* No offence intended. FYI: Part Togdheer, Part Sanaag including Las Anod. Dusty.

Well said Gediid. We all know who owns what in Somaliland and Somalia. The "boob" that took place will not and has not lasted. Every body gets what is thier own. Full Stop.

Dear Samuria, I am not ducking nor , far far from it brethren.I leave that to masters-namely you *lol* Now we seem to be getting somewhere. And I am afriad you've just proven to me what I have always suspected. That your political stance are blinded by your e-motions. It would seem that although you were born in Somaliland yet you give allegiance to Putland(SP)??. Now, that is fine am sure most of would have done so, but what one does not do is "BITE THE HAND THAT FED YOU". Correct me if I am wrong here but if you are born in a particular city it has some shaping to who you are and the least one can do is give it credit when it is due. Before you shout foul, allow me to demonstrate. In the article relating to Edna aDan's interview you said many fallacies one of them being " the world does not want another hungery mouth to feed" refering to Somaliland. You then went go on to write that the rest of Somalia was no longer bed riden and healing. How can you even campare the two nations?? They are not even on the same pedstal. Not today, not yesterday and not ever. On the points you made you said you are so OCCUPIED with Somaliland b/c according to you it is "Somali terrain". Now if that is the thruth: -why dont we EVER see you condeming the outricities that go on daily in the rest of Somali? -Why is it you potray a rosy picture of the rest of Somalia? -Why is your general approach to Somaliland baised? But, you still have not answered my question "why are OCCUPIED with staining Somaliland image! You have been very UNSUCCESSFUL so far and I but even your Somali camp read and juggle with humour at your shortsightness. If you take the interest of any Somali to heart, how come you have never proposed the UNDECUMENTABLE success of Somaliland? Even Bari trows the towel in at times Another thing Samuria, I read your articles and I see that you are someone who is trying very hard to convince us what you yourself dont hardly beleive :confused: . You try to stain Somaliland's image at every cost. All your article are undertoned with how small, poor and unworkable Somaliland is. When really the opposite is the thruth. Change of tactice is inorder dear sir, the truth has set so many free and is so so enlightening -give it a try. On the issue of SS&H being part of Somalia by way of " Putland", I say to you the matter is settled and if the bush came to shove-the only solution is "majority rules, minority rights". I hope you dig what I mean. In any lingo, Sanaag is ours and is Hawd, Sool can go any which direction they so chose. Peace Await you response again. And be a gent and dont keep the lady(moi) waiting!

People Listen up, Sanaag is Somaliland territory, Hawd is part of togdheer and Somliland territory again. Sool??? I am not sure. Now, when I say Sanaag and Hawad are Somaliland territories, I mean majority of the [populas are Somalilanders . The people live in peace and lets leave it at that. However, if we presist --remours will speard as we are in a global village today. If we start these claims, soon the rumour will hit home and consquences could be dire and costly. Lets examine the worst case scenerio. If these disputed regions are fought upon....GOD FORBID. WHo can contests that both Sanaag and Hawad will easliy be under the control of Somaliland. Now, why take things to the limit. Lets leave things as they are- intact- in peace- and obviously in SOMALILAND

Horn, Struggling??????????????????????????? who is strugling with limited resources. What development never mind advancement has the rest of Somalia made with thier supposed "resources"??? Horn walalo, that we dont need you is clear, that you need us is obvious. However these cries will not EVER bring us. That Somaliland can survive even without the UN and the rest of the world's aid is plain obvious. Somalia on the other has had more aid in the history of Somalia and yet look at it today. Downright messesd up is the case. That you desperately need us is again toooooo obvious. Why otherwise will Somaliaonline and it members be so pre occupied with US. We are obviuosly the ideal that YOU can be The two nations are not comparable in any platform. We are light years ahead. Peace

MR Samuri, I am still waiting........ I notice you are doing the rounds in all the other forums but somehow you manage to stay shhh on here....I wonder y :confused: No more ducking, I humbly await your responses and please no jargons and fabrications....just the plain ol thruth ..give it a go you might find it rewarding.

MObb_Deep My brother for you to understand and make comment on where Somalilanders are coming from may be you should step back and just look at the greater picture. Let me break it down for all ya: The fact is we Somalilanders know our nations is far from perfect. We know the tasks that lie ahead is monumental. We know corruption/greed and other misfortunes ar vast but we are willing to give it time to improve. Are you with me so far. We also know for a shattered nation almost to the ground, we rose from the rubbles, our achievement in as little time as 10yrs+ are impressive. The election that took place can put that of the US state to shame. Peace is not a condition in Somaliland today but the only option. Fahmutu. Now lets look at Somalia. Honestly, tell me what I should look at/consider?? I am lost for words. The fact is the fast majority of what is now the former Somalia is unstable, dangerous and is run by the fear of the gun. Thieves are every where, looting and kidnapping is a common thing and famine as reported by most UN org's will break out in the south if drastic actions are not taken. God-forbid this ever happens. You would agree would you not that people can roam freely in any part of Somaliland? Can the same be said for Somalia?? eh nope. Peace is basic human need, this is the big diff between the two countries. I can go on boast about Somaliland's monumental achievements but I wont because I am pretty sure most of you keep update with envy The reason most Somalilander fume with anger when the Somalia camp tries to redicule the nation of Somaliland is this MObb Deep....in all honesty "who is the joke on"?? If I was from Somalia I would bury my head in shame. Like I said before people like Bari and Samuri the ole school fellows of Somalia should be leading the path of light not the doom and gloom of the former. Hope you can read between the lines brother, if not ask Samuri, he is a man who hides behind methaphors and jargon and runs at the forst sight of the truth. I ask, if the two nation sat face to face. What would Somalia bring to the table?? Samuri this one is strictly for you. I have put so many Q's to you but I have never had a response!! Wonder y that is :confused: One of my former q's to Samur'a and Bari was as Somalias where should you worries lie, in the Somaliland situation or on the 20th foriegn initiated conference withe 31+presidential candiates and 450+mp's (maninly wardlords I must add)?? One more point to Samuria, as I said to you before I find funny for a man of your calibre to try and potray Somliland as (Hargeisa. Awdal, togdheer)---is it not a little undergraduate comment?? Incinuations like this my brotehr dont change the reality on the ground. But anyway I guess everyone is allowed to dream. Ameenah sis, I will agree the situation with Jama Yare's was mishandled and although UDUB has some distinguished members like Edna -I also agree that we should watch and moniter them like a hawk. But Jama's crime can be translated like this: If the British public were finally given the refrendum they so call on all the time on the issue of the Euro and then they vote overwhelming against joining the Euro BUT Gordon Brown goes down to Brussells in talks of joining the Euro, what would be the reaction of the British government and British public. Sis the London we know all too well will be in disray and uproar. Peace Dusty ps; a HAPPPY BELATED 26TH JUNE TO ALL LANDERS.

Ayub, Walalo--I have given up. I mean, if a so called foreign initiated conference delivers 31+presidential candidates and some 400 MP's and warlords were rampant ---I know where my worries would lie and I tell you what it wouldn't be belitting a floorishing brethern nation!!! But then that has always be the way of Somalia. :confused: As the say "ol habbits die hard" Dusty.

Samuri, Are you high on somthing?? Read the article and try again. Taking things out of context will not change the state of play and the reality on the ground. I have a question to put to you: of all the comments made by the Foriegn minister--I want to know why you had to qoute just part??? Why try and take things out of context and try to raise tention between the two camps here??

Libax So that is how Moderators do thier work these days. By airing out all the private e-mails. I did not accuse you of anything, I merely suggested you tend to lean to the other side. Cappichi. By the way, if my memory serves me right, your response to the private test can a testment on your so called "fairness" and opinion on Somalilad. . Dare we air that then???

Horn Africa, What point are you trying to arrive at with these blank quotations?? Brother, I think you need to learn a thing or two about constitutions, democracy and the law. The lines must not be crossed over. There are two conflicting issues here: If you take citizentioship in any given state, then you must abide by the law of that country. Secondly, one is entitled to thier opinions and political stance however, you must not in the name of greed and ignorance claim to represent the mass when infact the opposite is true. If you look back on Jama's stance you will notice that he has personnel issues with the parties in Somaliland, he was and is to this day rejected by the political groups active in Somaliland and it is becuase of this bitterness he joins the political shambles in the south. The Somaliland government position on this is that of any goverance. As Gediid put it, the man was deported as done by any self respecting, human rights obying state, one wonder what would have been the fate of the man had the same situation occured in Somalia???? Dusty.

First of , this article has no substance. There was no such thing as a "dagaal". I am not fimiliar with the site but it seems to be putting Somaliland in a negative light, albeit worthless. Now, the man cliams to be a Somaliland citizen where contrary to what this article preaches allows freedom of opinion and political believe however where does one draw the line on this issue?? What constitutes treason against the state and what constitues political freedom? If the man takes the same stance as Hadrawi who is pro unity campaigner (although even this is up for debate because I heard otherwise), then clearly he woud not have faced the same situation. But how does democracy deal with a man who represents the interests of his people in a political forum that they clearly and outrightly rejected?? Surely this constitutes high treason and should be dealt with accordingly. He is selfish, greedy and damn right ****** . I think Riyaale dealt with him appropriatley. I am proud of the way my country is progressing, our security is indeed tight and our intelligence gathering adequate for a state that just emerging from the dark shadows. Somalilander Dusty.

Guys, I am so Boredddddddddddddddddddd If someone does not bring back the gang, I shall starting picking fights randomly----and u'll know my I bite with Venom--lol--- On the double admin, do something about this dead space or else Dusty.

Guys, Translation please....I have feeling am missing out here.lOL/ I understood some like "niic bad tahay". My fave line.

God the odacity of some is just dumbfounding. Somali-Weyn listen up.....We GOne for Good so get over. My mother is from Erigabo, the capital of Sanaag...and for Putland (sp? not sure only recently learned about it is existance but I by no means not denouncing it) to make cliam to Sanaag is just outright stupid, Hawd--dont make me laugh---I am sure you dont want to feel the might force of Burco if this stupid suggestions are not put to rest soon-lol- Nino Brown wrote land is more expensive in Southern Somlia then it is in Hargeisa--Darling this is called inflation somehting we know how to curp!! More money in Mogadisho, is this the very money that is being fabricated in Indonsia, Canada , Italy etc?? How did this money come to Mogadisho--by the sheer hard work of it's folks, isn;t this the city that is constantly a battleground--when did the war-lords become businessmen--enlighten me may be you know something the rest of the world doesn't. Man if you wish to boost, then I suggest you come up somehting concrete-I dare you to prove me in one area that the former Somalia is doing better than Somaliland --just the one?? I tell you what? No need to exhaust yourself becuase there is none. What can be said of peope who value the loss of life as nothing. What can be sid of the very people who conference after confrence,STILL beg the world to help the form a government. What can be siad of the people who to this day sees themselves worthy--even when they have the blood of Hundred thousands on thier hands What can be expected of people who to this day are full of malice and hatred and whose is every utter of words are merer lies and fabrications cries and lies and more cries is not going to bring us back---we gone for good so get over. Dusty. After all is said and done--Somaliland is "new emerging" nation. Somalia "a once upon time story" land in far, far far way place in east Africa.

Lynx My sentiments exact. Sami-sis we are way above this petty arguments so lets rise above it as we are known to do. Dusty.

Shujui, Political oppression is a thing of the past. Every one is entitled to thier opinion, let the sister speak. Besides, we need diversity here---what is so interesting about having "one size fits all" opinions and forums?? On top, if you read the other thread there are others who have restorted to name calling and "trash" language then our gal here. Lets have control but not oppression. "Agree to disagree". Dusty.

Maansha Allah. All that wigning from the Kulmiye camp was getting to me. LOng live Somaliland.

lol@@@@@Horn Afrique, Walahi Hats of to you man. I honestly find you humorous LOL....they way you shout " Ethopia" at every poss opportunity is just SOMTHING. Funny stuff--best comedy line on SOL. Dusty

OKI THERE IS A PLACE CALLED XIIS+MAYD---WHICH MY MOTHER HAILS FROM

XIIS, If In siad "Mayd" will it ring a bell???

I agree landers if the best in the south or Anti-Somaliland are the like Samuri who not only makes cliam to Sanag and Hawad :confused: and resort to name calling the undoubtly beautiful women of Togdheer (mid ba diday u malaynaya) then may allah them. Samuria, that our future is indeed bright no can deny---and the best that Somali can offer is Baashi aka hasan nasra aka Samuria, while the rest of the world is either feeding your starving people, trying to stop you killing each other or assemplying you a "government" what I joke. And all the while you come here with your patetic name callings. Shame walahi. Anyway, The basic economic theories state that there is two forms of help that a nation must undertake--one is self help the other is government help. Listen and learn Samuri. The reason we need to encourage self help( formation of schools, adult classes,establishment of small business) is to make the people self relient and make the task of the local government easier. The government we need is improving the infrastructure, building roads, sanitations etc. To add this we need to encourage the people in the dispora to take thier knowledge home and try the best way they can to help with building the nation of Somaliland. If this means taking NGO's abroad so be it. It is that we will be a charity case it is that we will be making use of facilities and resources that we initiated to great use-get it Samuria, even the G8 nations benefit from this :eek: suprise--am sure u r not. Now Mr Samuri-stop weilding that sword you keep slashing yourself with everytime you hear Somaliland._LOL_ Look at this way you might somday needs us to accomadate you if the wwarlords kick you out. Dusty,

National event like the 18th of may should be a monumental day of fundraising as is already the case in London-UK. -Communication is a powerfull tool, we should introduce the power of the media to the people back home and not just the main cities but as far back as the small villages in Hawd etc and thus informing the country leaders that they will be held laible for their actions. Right now our people are slowly coming out of the dark and learning that it is indeed thier right to ask questions and I salute Raqiya Omar of her efferts to brings this notion to the forefornt. This is small contributions that we in the diaspora can help with. Peace Dusty.