^^The one below is when they were young Wedding party of Mohammed Hassan, Somali, and Katie Link, mixed-race Welsh in Butetown/Tiger Bay circa 1925; courtesy of Butetown History and Arts Centre

Originally posted by Sharmarkee: Ammaantiisa kuumaan dhammayn kumana dheeraane, Dhaayaha geelu leeyahay haddaan dhool yar ka iftiinsho Dhaddigiisa lama iibiyeen lamana dhiibeene Dhool lama muquunsheen haddii dhawr lagaa xidho e Waa dhagax nafloo heeyjaddaa dhigay Ilaaheeye Dhadhaab adag haddaanu ka bixin laguma dhaarteene Waa dhabarka seedaha ku yaal sidigta Dhaameele Wax kaloo ku dhaafaba rag ways kaga dhaqaaqaaye Ragga laxaha sii dhawrayoow dhaqasho waa geele! Dhugtankiyo rasaasti madfacu dhiraha laynaayey, Sida dhibicda shaydaanigay nagu dhawaaqaysay Hadba dhuungalayntaan bunduqa kula dhawaanaayay Aniguba dhexdeed waxaan ku jiray Dheeho tacabkeede Dhoorwiil u yeedhyeedh nimaan dhaqanin waa caydhe Heavy! Xiin Here's a little task for you, most of these poets named their favourite camels, care to name some the beasts?

Originally posted by Yeniceri: But the responses of the two ex-warlords is quite interesting. Yes indeed. Very interesting.

^^ Hello you Originally posted by Kashanre: Would it have matter if he had written "balaa dh an? Speech is a product of geography, not clan affiliation. You completely lost there Mr Khasaare, can you explain that again? Originally posted by Wise Man: Wow, that was really xaflad aad u baladhan, cid u kala harteyba ma ay jirin, but why did they call it Laas Geel? Is there any history behind this name? I don't think the name of the town has been changed, but the newly-formed district - which was also supposed to be called Dacar-budhuq - is now going to called Las Geel after the rocks/mountains and the Prehistoric Caves. Red Case Not convinced

· Highest number in world choose not to have family · Minister highlights the threat of low birthrate Luke Harding in Berlin Friday January 27, 2006 The Guardian Germany was plunged into an anguished debate yesterday about how to encourage reluctant couples to breed after new figures showed Germany with the world's highest proportion of childless women. Thirty per cent of German women have not had children, according to European Union statistics from 2005, with the figure rising among female graduates to 40%. Germany's new family minister, Ursula von der Leyen, said that unless the birth rate picked up the country would have to "turn the light out". http://www.guardian.co.uk .

The Palestinians' democratic choice must be respected The excuses given for refusing to deal with Hamas will not wash. This is a chance for Europe to have an independent role Jonathan Steele Friday January 27, 2006 The Guardian Hamas's triumph in Wednesday's Palestinian elections is the best news from the Middle East for a long time. The poll was a more impressive display of democracy than any other in the region, outstripping last year's votes in Lebanon and Iraq both in turnout and the range of views that candidates represented. Whereas in Iraq parties that opposed the occupation had to downplay or even obscure their views, Palestinian supporters of armed resistance to Israel's expansionist strategies were able to run openly. It is true that Hamas candidates did not make relations with Israel the centrepiece of their campaign. They focused on reform in the Palestinian Authority. But few voters were unaware of Hamas's uncompromising hostility to occupation and its record in fighting it. Wednesday's election was remarkable also in owing nothing to Washington's (selective) efforts to promote democracy in the Arab world. Instead, it was further proof that civil society in Palestine is more vibrant than anywhere else in the region and that Palestinian politics has its own dynamics, dictated not by outside pressure but the social and economic demands of ordinary people in appalling conditions. Providing a forum to freely express hopes and fears, debate policy and seek agreed solutions is, after all, what democracy is about. In Israel and Washington reaction to Hamas's victory has been predictably negative. European governments should take a more sensitive view. The first watchword is caution. Applaud the process but don't take issue with the result. While the dust settles and Hamas works out its own priorities for government, Europeans should calmly analyse why Hamas got so much support. Among several Hamas leaders I met in Gaza last summer, Mahmoud Zahar, one of its last surviving founders, exuded the clearest sense of inner steel. Trained as a medical doctor in Cairo, and now a short middle-aged figure with combed-over grey hair, he left several impressions. This is no mosque-driven revolutionary or wealthy jihadi of the Osama bin Laden type, motivated by ideology or a desire for adventure. Like other Gazans, he has felt the occupation on his skin. His wife was paralysed and his eldest son killed by an Israeli F-16 attack on his house in 2003. Zahar was in the garden and lucky to survive. In spite of that, he took the lead last year in persuading colleagues that Hamas should declare a truce or period of "calm" with Israel. For 11 months no Hamas member has gone on a suicide bombing mission. That is no mean achievement, which foreign diplomats rarely credit. Zahar's reasons were not just tactical - a desire to deny Sharon a pretext for abandoning his retreat from Gaza. His strategy is to de-escalate the confrontation with Israel for a long period so that Palestinian society can build a new sense of unity, revive its inner moral strength and clean up its institutions. He feels western governments give aid and use the issue of negotiations with Israel only as a device for conditionality and pressure, not in the interests of justice. So he wants Palestinians to have a broad-based coalition government that will look to the Arab and Islamic worlds for economic partners and diplomatic support. It's a kind of "parallel unilateralism", matching the mood in Israel where the peace camp clearly has lost all real purchase. "Israeli attitudes show they don't intend to make any agreement. They're going to take many unilateral steps," Zahar told me. "In this bad unbalanced situation and with the interference of the west in the affairs of every Arab country, especially Syria and Lebanon, we can live without any agreement and have a 'calm' for a long time. We're in favour of a long-term truce without recognition of Israel, provided Sharon is also looking for a truce. Everything will change in 10 or 20 years." Zahar also left me with no sense of embarrassment about the imminence of power. He pointed out that Mahmoud Abbas would remain president for three more years, as though implying he could be a convenient front for inevitably unproductive talks with Washington and Israel while Hamas acted as a watchdog on the main issues. "There will be no contradiction between the Palestine legislative council and the president," he said. "We will be the safeguard, and the safety valve, against any betrayal." Along with caution in reacting to the Hamas victory, Europe's second priority should be to maintain continuity. Any cut-off in EU aid would only be a gift to Israel's hardliners. The EU is the largest international donor to the Palestinian Authority, and Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief, blundered last month when he told a Gaza press conference that "it would be very difficult for the help and the money that goes to the Palestinian Authority to continue to flow" if Hamas were in government. Yesterday's EU statements were more measured. If Europe, weak though its power may currently be, wants to have an independent role in the Middle East, clearly different from the manipulative US approach, it is vital to go on funding the PA regardless of the Hamas presence in government. Nor should the EU fall back on the cynical hope that Hamas will be as corrupt as Fatah, and so lose support. You cannot use European taxpayers' money to strengthen Palestinian institutions while privately wanting reforms to fail. Hamas should be encouraged in aiming to be more honest than its predecessors. Above all, Europe should not get hung up on the wrong issues, like armed resistance and the "war on terror". Murdering a Palestinian politician by a long-range attack that is bound also to kill innocent civilians is morally and legally no better than a suicide bomb on a bus. Hamas's refusal to give formal recognition of Israel's right to exist should also not be seen by Europe as an urgent problem. History and international politics do not march in tidy simultaneous steps. For decades Israel refused even to recognise the existence of the Palestinian people, just as Turkey did not recognise the Kurds. Until 15 years ago Palestinians had to be smuggled to international summits as part of Jordan's delegation. It is less than that since the Israeli government accepted the goal of a Palestinian state. Hamas may eventually disarm itself and recognise Israel. That will be the end of the process of establishing a just modus vivendi for Israelis and Palestinians in the Middle East. It cannot be the first step. Today's priority is to accept that Palestinians have spoken freely. They deserve respect and support. j.steele@guardian.co.uk "The main aim of the intifada [uprising] is the liberation of the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem, and nothing more. We haven't the force to liberate all our land," Mr Rantissi told the BBC in 2002. "It is forbidden in our religion to give up a part of our land, so we can't recognise Israel at all. But we can accept a truce with them, and we can live side by side and refer all the issues to the coming generations." - Who are Hamas? by BBC Iran... hopes that the powerful presence of Hamas at the scene brings about great achievements for the Palestinian nation. HAMID REZA ASEFI, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman In quotes: Reaction to Palestinian poll .

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Xaflad Aad u balaaran Guess what springs to mind? Is there something you need to share with us?

We don't know the facts from fiction of this story because of spin, but, how far-fetched is this list? 1. Tyrants and apostates of our leaders 2. Jews 3. Christians 4. Evil scholars of Muslims 5. Hypocrites 6. Ignorance of our umma [the Muslim community] Hamza speech described 'six enemies' of Muslims

The vast arid and serene landscape embraces us as we climb the proud rock mountain. The wind blows welcoming our every step; as if introducing every boulder and every piece of red and white stone that lead us to the corners of Las Geel, the place where pre-historic cave paintings of Somaliland was discovered We gazed at the peak of the hill, for a moment, we were puzzled by the blue spot on top. We still have a few minutes to continue but we couldn't help but ask ... What is it? Everyone was anxious to get to the top and view the vast semi-arid scene; it was a rare moment to share with special friends. Little that we know, the mysterious blue figure was not a a question of what, but who. She's Hinda, a child nomad sitting quietly enjoying the serene comfort of a windy afternoon. She has still eyes. Deep, reflective and distant. The presence of strangers in the midst of her comfort zone caught her by surprise. We tried to befriend her, offered food, engaged in a conversation and simply smiled, she was careful, silent and detached. Deep inside, I wished I could be like her even for a moment. No hassles, no pressure, no demands of the hectic busy life in the city where everything is measured and judged by how you talk, you do and wear. Where life is controlled by the latest technology. Where life is sometimes superficial and mundane, sometimes not. There are times, when my soul wishes to be still. Moments when I long to reach deep inside to know my truth and find peace. Posted by Yvette Lopez I'm getting soft or was that a bit 'touchin'? :cool:

^^ Did I mention I'm a part-time Burcaawi? "Guusha Ugu Wayn Ee Aanu Sheegan Karaa Waa In aanu Wadanka keeno Wershado Waawayn" Maareeyaha guud ee warshada Saabuunta Budada ee magaalada Burco Nuur Ducaale Diiriye ayaa maanta markii u horaysay daboolka ka qaaday in ay warshadan oo mudo sanad iyo badha gacanta lagu hayey dhismeheeda ay si rasmi ah u bilaabidoonto wax soo saarkeed bisha February 2006, islamarkaana waxa uu maareeyihi guul shilis ku tilmaamay in warshadaha waawayn ee dunida 3aad oo kale ay ganacsatada Somaliland ka hirgaliso wadanka. Maareeyuhu waxa uu arintan kaga hadlaayey waraysi wuu Yuusuf Ilkacase ku siiyey xarunta warshadaasi oo ku taala meel 10km dhinaca bari ka xigta magaalda Burco, waraysigaasi oo uu kaga hadlay qodobo dhawr ah oo ah ka mid yihiin tayada warshadaasi iyo figrada ka danbaysa warshada iyo waliba awooda waxsoosaar ee ay yeelankarto. Hadaba waraysigaas oo dhinacyo badan taabanayaa waxa uu dhacay sidan : - S/- ugu horayn maareeye bal warbixin kooban naga sii halkay ku danbaysay dadaalka warshadii budada? J/- Warshadan waxaannu dhismeheeda bilownay sanadkii 2004, mudo sanad iyo saayid ah ayey dhismeheeda iyo rakibaadeedu socotay waxaanuna ugu talo galay in ay xili imika ka horeeya dhamaato laakiin waxa dib noo dhigay dib u dhac nagaga yimi alaabtii gelilahayd warshada oo ay na xanibtay mushkiladii maraakiibtii xeebaha Puntland laga afduubay oo aannu gaadiid waynay laakiin hada waannu gabagabynay waxaannu kala xulanaynaa suuq gelinteeda bisha danbena waxsoosaarkeeduu waa bilaabmayaa. S/-Nuur maxay soo saaraysaa warshadani, yaase ka danbeeyey abuurkeeda?. J/- horta warshadani waa warshad wayn (Medium size) sidaad aragto waxay ku fadhidaa bed dhan 1000m2 Waa warshadii ugu waynayd ee Somaliland laga sameeyo, waxsoosaarkeeduna waxa uu ku salaysan yahay noocyada saabuunta budada ah waana warshad waxsoosaarkeedu ka balaadhanyahay Somaliland iyo Somaliyaba sidaas darteed waxaannu ugu talo galay in ay suuq gelinteedu qabsato wadamada afrikada Bari oo dhan. Takale waxa ka danbeeya figradii lagu aasaasay ganacsato Somalilander iyo somaliyaba isugu jirta. S/- Maxaad ku doorbideen in warshadan Burco laga sameeyo?. J/- waxaannu ku doorbidnay markaannu aragnay baahida dhinaca saabuunta ee dalka iyo in aannu wadanka ku soo kordhino ama dadka tusno in warshado waawayn wadanka lagu aaminkaro "waxaannu anagu aaminsan nahay in guusha wayn ee aannu sheegan karaa ay tahay in aannu dadka tusnay in warshado la samaysankaro oo ay maanta dadku warshad wada hadal hayaan iyo in aannu wadanka keenay warshado waawayn" . S/- Manoo sheegikartaa ilaa hada kharashka ku baxay warshadan, iyo baaxada waxsoosaarkeedu leeg yahay? , J/- Warshadan waxaannu ugu talogalay daraasadii hore ee annu samaynay $2,500, 000 Dollar balse hada waxa ay maraysaa $5.000, 000 sababtu waxay noqotay wax kastaaba waxay nagu noqotay in debeda laga keeno haday tahay aqoontii qalabkii iyo qaaliga wax kastaaba nagu tageen. Xaga xashmiga hadaan eegno warshadu saacadii waxay soo saari kartaa 5ton oo saabuun, maalitiina 120 ton, bishiina 336 000 ton. S/- laakiin dhaqaalaha xadigan leeg xagee ayuu ka yimi?. J/- Dhaqaalahan dadka sheerarka leh ayaa leh marka faa’iido u muuqato qofka wuu raadinayaa, waxaananu aaminsanahay in ay dadka lacagtan maalgeliyey ay geesinimo muujiyeen balse maaha dhaqaale meelkale ka yimi. S/- Marka laga hadlayo dhinaca dadwaynaha maxay tahay ahmiyada ay ka helikaraan?. J/- Ahimiyada warshaduba waxay ku timi siday dadku uga faa’iidi lahaayeen, waxaannu u suuro gelinaynaa inay qiimo jaban ku helaan saabuunta, waxay ka faa’iidi doonaan dad badan oo ka shaqayndoona suuq gelinteeda ilaa dhawr boqol oo qofna shaqaale ayay ka noqon doonaan, wadankana sumcad iyo dhaqaale ayey soo gelinaysaa. S/- waxa jira warshado saabuuneed oo wakhtigan haysta suuqyada Somaliland, maxay tahay siyaasada aad kula tartamaysaan?. J/- horta warshad saabuuneed oo nooceeda ah oo wadanka gudihiisa ku taala ma jirto, laakiin waxa noo qorshaysan inaanu warshadaha debeda suuqa ka saaro anagoo adeegsanayna sixir jabnaan saabuun tayo leh iyo in aannu bulshada kalsoonideeda hanano. S/- XIdhiidhka aad la leedihiin warshada ganacsiga iyo warshaduhu waa mid intee leeg?. J/- runtii anaga iyo wasaarada ganacsiga xidhiidh fiican ayaa naga dhexeeya, aad ayaanay noo soo dhawaysay, cashuur dhaaf waxay noogu samaysay qalabkii warshada ee debeda ka imanayey waxay kale oo noo balan qaaday in shanta sano ee soo socoto nalaga dhaafo cashuurta macaashal macaashka. S/-Dhinaca kale hadaynu eegno warshada waxaa laga fuliyey wadan aan hor’umar iyo aqoonsi ka haysan aduunka, maxaad isleedihiin caqabadan ayay idinku yihiin. J/- Waar arintaasi waa xaalad na haysata, wax kastaaba waxa ay nagu noqdeen wax cusub, waxay noqotay in talaabda aannu qadayno aannu debeda ka sugno, waxa noogu darani waxay noqotay alaabtii oo aad noogu qaaliya, bulshadeen lafteedu uma bisla tadawurka warshadahan, markaa walaahay way jiraan caqabado maxali ah iyo kuwo kaleba, laakiin waxaannu xooga saaraynaa in aanan karaar jabin oo aannu ka biyo dhalino hadafkayaga. S/- ugu danbayntii waxa dhacda in ganacsatada Somalidu in ay marka hore wax isku darsadaan wakhtyar kadibna ay burburaan, maxaa idinka idiin meelyaal?. J/- Way jirtaa in shirkado badani ay ku baaba’aan khilaaf ku yimaada, anagu hada ka hore waxaannu maamulaa shirkado kuwan ka waawayn, sida shirkada ILAYS oo kale, waxaannu ka hawlgalaa Chine, Abu Dubai, India, Somalia iyo Somaliland, markaas insha alaah anagu waxanu rajaynaynaa in aanan burburin. Reported by Yusuf Ilkacase. Burco Originally posted by Xarago: ^^Cajiib , wadh ma Quran ba lagu sadhey waa yabee? sidan cadi ku ma tihiid wale. Mise waad ku cidlotey mesha huuno? You gonna cry to me You're gonna walk back through the heartaches You're gonna walk back through the pain Shed those lonely teardrops: The reaction of your cheating game. Xarago you never let one slip by, do you?

Burco(HWN) waxa sanadahan danbe ku soo kordhaaya magaalada burco warshadaha sida gaarka loo leeyahay kuwaasoo isagu jira qaar yaryar iyo qaar waaweyn warshadaas oo kor uqaadaaya wax soo saarka gobolka waxana shaqooyin ka hela dad aad u tira badan warshadaha intooda badab waxa leh dad reer somaliland ah oo saamiyo ay isu geeyeen ku sameeyay warshadahan waxana kolba marka ka danbaysa sii kordhaysa wax wada lahaanshaha bulshada hadaba waxaanu warbixintan ku eegi doonaa warshado dhawaanahan laga furay magaalada burco... http://www.hadhwanaagnews.com/pages/45/index.htm .

I know Juma has been gagged, but where's his buddy-buddy Ngonge? Two MIA within 24hrs? After a long consultation with the moderator of this section, we made the decision that Jumatatu is best to leave this forum and can only come back if the nomad admits that he broke the golden rules of the forum and will not do so in the future... “Attacking†personalities, warlords, rebel groups or any other hebel-created organization is legitimate and within the rules of SOL as long as the “vulgarity†rule is not broken. In our judgment, such an attack is not synonymous with a tribal attack. This rule has always been here and it will stay that way. Ain't it funny that the last time he got done it was for criticing a retaurant? Juma's comments were diplorable but should not have been banned, in my humble opinion. He is not the first either. Ps Inaar Suldanka keep in touch just incase...

^^ Maybe he's just confused and missing his old sparring partner Juma. Since Juma was gagged under questionable circumstances anyway, why not appeal on his behalf, General Duke Smithy

Labada kornel waxay qorsheeyeen sidii Soomaali dagalkan ugu jabi lahayd ka bacadina dadka iyo ciidamada oo cadhaysan ay afgani {EDITED} u sameen lahaayeen. Cirro waxuu sameeyey wax alaale iyo wixii uu is yidhi ciidaamado ha ka gadoodeen. Markuu Sabataajkii dhamayay ayuu bilaabay inuu laayo saraakiil iyo ciidamo ka badan 200 oo saraakil xigeena ahaa. Taariikhdaa taas markhaati iiga ah, haddaanad warkeeda haynin bal adiguba dabagal ku samee. Well..

“Waxaanu digniin culus siinaynaa shirkadaha Shisheeye ee heshiisyada been beenta ah loo saxeexo inaanay xuduuda Somaliland soo geli Karin, waxna ka baadhi Karin, una soo dirsan Karin sahan. Haddii ay yeelaanna aanu ka qaadayno tallaabooyinka ku haboon. Kuwaas oo halis gelin doona xasiloonida iyo degenaanshaha Geeska Afrika, kana lumin doona hanti wixii ay shirkadahaasu dalkayaga sharci darro ku soo geliyeen." Hear hear! I love it how the warlords cheerleaders take note whenever the Good Lady makes a statement. If only her 'counterpart' - the Mbagathi FM (what's his name again? :confused: ) - could be as effective. Originally posted by General Duke: Adna does not hide her self loathing and clan extremism, her daily threats on SOL reminds me of Ayoub Shiekh's 30,000 well trained army still heading towards Las Anod. Heading towards Las Anod? Please remind me when I said that..I remember discouraging that and beauty of SOL is everything is in writing, right?

Barnamujka TvsLE Iyo Abwan Gaariye .

Xiin The poet Qaasim was among the few who opposed Siyad'd pronouncements at time. Here are few politically-correct lines from his poem I can post in here: Wax Siyaasaddii loo egmadey silic ku nooshiiye Markii talada habar saarleh iyo sebiyo lo doortay Ayay sayn-caddaa iyo waxgarad sibiq dhaqaaqeene Dhulkan Suuradii lagu beddelay socodna dhaameelay Waa wada socdaaleen raggii soocanka ahaaye Saadada cadhootee midgaha laga sarraysiiyey Waa sixirradii Bucurbacayr sananka muuqdaaye Inta ay sidaa tahay nin gobi soomman ka ahaaye Qaansaleydu haw sacbbiyeen Siigga qalataaye Naagaha surwaalkali mashxarad ha u safnaadeene Single iyo waxaan dhalad ahayn siidhi haw tumoe Sabaalada ha moodeen in loo sahanshey meel roone Saadaaladaa lagu gartaa sebenka caal waa'e Waa waxa abaar nagu salliday soof ma reebta ahe Saddexguuro waa waxa na baday sadhiyo daacuune Samadii daruur laguma arag Seermaweydadae So'dii ceelka waa waxa biyuhu uga sal guureene Adduunyadu sidaa kuma gudhoo subaxba waa cayne Nin kastoo sallaan dheer u baxa siibashaa xigiye Suuldaaro waw halis ninkay rag isa seegeene Sirqabahana taariikhdu way sahamindoontaaye Maantana Siciidow waqtigu saamaxaad malehe Moorada salkeediyo xalaan sugay malluugtiiye Sufurtaa madow ee dayaxa saaran baan garanne Dhiig buu sidaa waqalkan aad sagalka mooddaaye Siigada dhacaysaa ragbay sabibi doontaaye Ilaahay sidaan ka arki jirey way ku socotaaye Duulkii sedkoodii dhammaa saancadka lahaaye Sanbabada gantaalaha ka mudi saadanbay garane Waa nayla kala soocayaa subax an dheerayne Ninki cadho la sooyaamayow sabirka maad dhowrtid ---------- Sadly became true

^^If what you say is correct, the plight of those Somalis would be very different. I think disunity among them as bad if not worse than Somalia. Btw, according to your respected opinion my dear Sage Baashi, how will the Somalis in Ethiopia eventually decide their destiny? Will be a majority rules?

Originally posted by General Duke: The President's silence on the Geedi gaffe [interview comments] is tragic. The old man needs to undertsand that his appointee is making no sense what so ever. And we are losing patiance with this government... Duke Smith, why pile all the blame on Abti Geedi when it was you of all people who posted the article below where Adeero Yey makes his views very clear. An interview with the President Su’aal: Waxaan maqalnaa inaad tahay “ninkii Ethiopiaâ€. Siidee bay Ethiopia kuu taageeraysaa? A.YUSUF: Dabcan, waxaan ahay Ethiopian,(xagga saaxiibtinimada) Ethiopia waa dal aan saaxiib nahay, waxaan la leenahay xiriir wanaagsan, anagoo wadaagna xuduud 2500Km ah, waana joogi doonaa Gobolkan waligayo, sidaa aawadeed waa inaan xiriir wanaagsan yeelano waligayo; mana waxyeelaynayno danaha dalkale; dabcan. Ethiopia kaligeed maaha, wxaan taageero waydiisaney Midowga Africa(AU), Egypt, Sudan iyo dhammaan dalalka kale ee xubnaha ka ah ururka, inay tageeraan Somaliya, waxaana ka rajaynaynaa taagero buuxda dhammaantood; waddan kasta oo ku jira Midowga Africa. Su’aal: Awood ma adeegsan doontaa si aad u midayso Somaliya ama u balaariso Somaliya (ama see u aragtaa fikradda Somaliyada wayn (Greater Somalia, waxaa loola jeedaa, Somaliya oo lagu soo daro, Somalida Kenya iyo Ethiopia, waana fikraddii Somalidu wadatay xilligii Siyad Barre oo keentay dagalkii 1977 ee Somaliya iyo Ethiopia). A.YUSUF: Waxaan filayaa inay tahay siyaasad gaboowday taasi (old-fashioned politics). Ma jiro hadda fikir ama ra’yi noocaas oo kale ah. I think your article explains Adeeros' position very candidly atleast to an outsider like me :cool:

Originally posted by Baashi: Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: And which Somalilanders are we talking about here? Secessionists or unionists? Baashi Mr Roble did not distinguish between Ethiopia Somalis when he gave them the advice I quoted and I don't expect him start now. If and when they (Somalis in Ethiopia) get the opportunity to decide their future, will it be done as a block or the way you wish to be for Somaliland. Let remind you even the Somaliweyn flag has five edges, and not five edges and Buhootle.

^^ Nice to see you're smilin again Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: In this particular case, the word "wan" doesn't allude to sheep, but caano, which the natives of that region call caano as wan. So, if put in the other lahjad, it is Caanoweyn camal. Bro i've read that interpretation when you gave it to Lander the other day, but i'm not talking about natives of particular town but a general term which is ment to describe people who make big deal out of something that's not that significant, i,e sheep. PS Why don't you start lessons for some of us who are eager to learn May in here.

Originally posted by Red sea: Dhagaweyne killed many innocent civilians, 50,000 sheep,cattles, and camels, 50 000 sheep did you say? Are you positive you ain't a wan-laweyn? In addition, brother Nabadshe if you honestly without discriminating against anyone look back our history you will find out that Somalis have always commited crimes against each If that's the case, why make a big farce when the Amxaaro does the same?

TAARIIKHDII SHALAY IYO U MASUUSUQA DILKA IYO TOOGASHADA .

Originally posted by Maakhir: Therefore, Somali Ethiopians should not depend on Somalia like the dependency syndrome, that Winthrop Jordan, an antebellum historian, called “The White Man’s Burden.†In other words, Somali Ethiopians should grow up, stand on their own feet and start char.ting their own map for their survival while honoring and upholding the good traits of Somali unity. And what brotherly advice would Mr Roble give to Somalilanders?