VIDEO - Huda Rafle, an E! Network Television producer is misdiagnosed and is fighting for her life

[Classified]

Why do I feel some of you are speaking up for her on the bases of tribal affiliation? Jacpher, how am I questioning her status? I merely said, I don't know her, I never met her and the only things I saw about her were two pictures that were not so-Islamic, so to speak. So, from that perspective, I plead the fifth. If you want to make dua for her, that's something entirely up to you, but you can't shove it down on other's throat to do the same.

[Reeyo]

^ Go find a dark place and shut-up.

 

 

 

May Allah have mercy on her soul. Amiin

 

She looks a very dear friend of mine.

[Jacpher]

Classified;988305 wrote:

Why do I feel some of you are speaking up for her on the bases of tribal affiliation?

Jacpher

, how am I questioning her status? I merely said, I don't know her, I never met her and the only things I saw about her were two pictures that were not so-Islamic, so to speak. So, from that perspective, I plead the fifth. If you want to make dua for her, that's something entirely up to you, but you can't shove it down on other's throat to do the same.

Sxb leave the marxuum out. Saying I plead the fifth is un-islamic so should we ask if you are Muslim or not since you seems to adhere laws other than Islam that suggest people have the right to conceal the truth so they don't get incriminated?? Our beautiful religion teaches us to speak of the truth even to testify against yourself. Pleading the fifth is the opposite of what Islam teaches and you seem to be fond of it.

 

 

About qabiil, I got no clue what clan or city she lived or belongs to. This is the first time I heard and seen of her story and it is none other than here in this topic. I have no clue where you get that thought.

[Safferz]

Jacpher;988340 wrote:

About qabiil, I got no clue what clan or city she lived or belongs to. This is the first time I heard and seen of her story and it is none other than here in this topic. I have no clue where you get that thought.

I'm *from* Toronto and I don't even know what her qabiil is. All of us are moved clearly because this is a tragic story, but also as DoctorKenney says, she could have been a sister, a cousin, a friend, someone we know. She's a typical young Somali woman, not at all who you would expect to become a victim of cancer.

 

Anyway, I agree with Nin-Yaaban that we should stop feeding the troll... Classified has called me a gaal on this forum too. Disengage and move on, he is a fool.

[Jacpher]

^Good call but instead of ignoring him, we should educate him and show him the flaws in his argument.

[Alpha Blondy]

is she Somali?

[Classified]

Jacpher;988340 wrote:

Sxb leave the marxuum out. Saying I plead the fifth is un-islamic so should we ask if you are Muslim or not since you seems to adhere laws other than Islam that suggest people have the right to conceal the truth so they don't get incriminated?? Our beautiful religion teaches us to speak of the truth even to testify against yourself. Pleading the fifth is the opposite of what Islam teaches and you seem to be fond of it.

 

 

About qabiil, I got no clue what clan or city she lived or belongs to. This is the first time I heard and seen of her story and it is none other than here in this topic. I have no clue where you get that thought.

Brother, I am confused as to what you're trying to say here. I am not against saying AUN to the Muslims that have passed away. May Allah have mercy on ALL the muslims, those that have passed away and those that are alive. You don't know the girl, right? So, what makes you think she was a Muslim to begin with, horta? Maybe I'm missing something here and you can perhaps enlighten me. I appreciate your stance on trying to bring you and I to a common ground.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

When i am going to die i sure do not want to be cancer patient give me a heart attack or something cancer patients really suffer cancer really dadka nafaqaday ka nuugta waan ka naxa when some one says he has a cancer a Somali lady i know had cancer she died 2 years ago it was so terrible to know and the way she was suffering ilahooow dadka islaamka u fududee geerida.

[Jacpher]

Classified;988366 wrote:

Brother, I am confused as to what you're trying to say here. I am not against saying AUN to the Muslims that have passed away. May Allah have mercy on ALL the muslims, those that have passed away and those that are alive. You don't know the girl, right? So, what makes you think she was a Muslim to begin with, horta? Maybe I'm missing something here and you can perhaps enlighten me. I appreciate your stance on trying to bring you and I to a common ground.

 

^Not to be argumentative here but since you believe in pleading the fifth amendment of the US Constitution, an non-Islamic law, what makes other assume you're a Muslim. Sorry I didn't want to go this way but you seem to be oblivious to the fact the maxruum ain't here with us. Qof naga hooseeyaad ku durdurineysaa sxb. So let's talk about you since you're here with us

[Safferz]

Jacpher;988373 wrote:

^Not to be argumentative here but since you believe in pleading the fifth amendment of the US Constitution, an non-Islamic law, what makes other assume you're a Muslim. Sorry I didn't want to go this way but you seem to be oblivious to the fact the maxruum ain't here with us. Qof naga hooseeyaad ku durdurineysaa sxb. So let's talk about you since you're here with us

[GaraadMon]

Apophis;988381 wrote:

Do not be cowed by the emotional hypocrites who today, or any other day, have not bat an eyelid at the hundreds, probably thousands, of dirt poor Somalis who have died of hunger, disease, malnutrition (most likely cancer too), lack of basic medical care etc, yet are quick to shed crocodile tears and emotionally blackmail (and threaten) you with censure for speaking your mind about an individual who has lived a much better live, short as it maybe, than many Somalis.

 

Yes, it's unfortunate she died, but she's no more special than the many Somali kids who have also died (today). Get a grip people.

I disagree. She is made special by the fact that she is a member of the diaspora like many commenting in this thread. Diasporans form a cultural group of their own and it's natural for them to be more affected by news concerning people like themselves. I lost relatives in Taleex this week, but this story has came up more often in conversations with my parents.

[Alpha Blondy]

Blackflash;988390 wrote:

I disagree. She is made special by the fact that she is a member of the diaspora like many commenting in this thread. Diasporans form a cultural group of their own and it's natural for them to be more affected by news concerning people like themselves. I lost relatives in Taleex this week, but this story has came up more often in conversations with my parents.

:D

[thefuturenow]

Blackflash;988390 wrote:

I disagree. She is made special by the fact that she is a member of the diaspora like many commenting in this thread. Diasporans form a cultural group of their own and it's natural for them to be more affected by news concerning people like themselves. I lost relatives in Taleex this week, but this story has came up more often in conversations with my parents.

 

Yes. And we will will come and enslave your 'people' because they've never had a caramel maccihiato. How can one call him/herself human if they've never even had a starbucks latte?

 

--Unanimously, the diaspora.

 

 

On a more serious note, Classified, get your shit together mate. Your attention-whoring is getting absurd.

[Classified]

Jacpher;988373 wrote:

^Not to be argumentative here but since you believe in pleading the fifth amendment of the US Constitution, an non-Islamic law, what makes other assume you're a Muslim. Sorry I didn't want to go this way but you seem to be oblivious to the fact the maxruum ain't here with us. Qof naga hooseeyaad ku durdurineysaa sxb. So let's talk about you since you're here with us

What have I said that would be consider as offensive or insult against the dead girl? Isn't it my prerogative to plead the fifth on any issue I choose so? I didn't know the girl, however from what I have only seen brings me to the conclusion that she might have not been a practicing Muslim or even worse, she might not have been a Muslim at all; Nonetheless, those pictures don't qualify any bases to take someone out of the fold of Islam, thus I cannot say for sure she was not a Muslim nor can I say for sure she was a Muslim.

 

Islam teaches that we are forbidden to say "AUN" to the non-Muslims. I don't know her, thus I rather plead the fifth [again].

 

Apophis, haha, apparently a particular hypocrite in this thread things it can create a Muslim rift within the Muslim members in her. I understand where Jacpher is coming from, but I only hope he understands where I'm coming from. Unfortunately, I think his qabyaalad side has probably won him over. As for the girl, obviously a picture is worth a thousand words.

[DoctorKenney]

Classified, again....You're doing some severe speculation here. There are plenty of Somali girls and guys who are Muslims, who still go out to party sometimes.

 

I'm gonna say that virtually every member of this forum has been to some sort of a party at some point in their lives. Stop this judging and stop trying to characterize this young lady.

 

Remember: The Believer searches for excuses for his Muslim brother when his brother commits a sin. While the Hypocrite searches for his brother's faults. I have friends who have been to jail before, and you never see me trying to characterize them or doubt their Islam.

 

And right now you're looking at this young lady's faults, which is a sign of hypocrisy. Before you even get yourself involved in such arguments, learn some proper etiquette first. Learn proper adab, learn to be polite, to be forgiving, and to overlook your Muslim brother's faults. We all make mistakes, and you're attempting to highlight Houda's minor mistakes when she's already dead. She's your Muslim Somali sister and all you can think about is posting pictures of her at a party and then speculating if she's not Muslim. That's disgusting. These speculations won't help her, it won't help her family, and it will only alienate you from others in this forum.

 

 

P.S. And no, you cannot "plead the 5th" because that's an Amendment of the US Constitution (which is a non-muslim agreement)