Maamul Goboleed for Gedo in the works?

[Gabbal]

Aqoon-iswaydaarsi laga hadlayay nabada Gobalka Gedo oo maanta lagu soo gabagabeeyay degmada Baardheere ee Gobalka Gedo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Waxaa maalintii Shalay ahayd lagu soo gabagabeeyay xarunta Ururka Samafalka wadaniga ah SADO ee degmada Baardheere Aqoon-iswaydaarsi lagaga hadlayay xalinta khilaafaadka iyo sameyn qorshe lagu hormarinayo nabada Gobalka Gedo oo ay ka soo qaybgaleen in ka badan 100 xubnood oo ka kala socday 7-da ee uu ka kooban yahay Gobalku.

 

Aqoon-iswaydaarsigan oo socday mudo 3 maalmood ah ayaa gabagabadii waxaa laga soo saaray qodobo ay ka mid yihiin In baaq nabadeed la gaarsiiyo dhamaan qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada ku dhaqan Gobalka, in la qabto shirwayne heer Gobal ah laguna qabto degmada G/haareey mudo 45 casho gudohood ah, Balan qaad dhinaca nabadgaliyada Gobalka ah oo loo diray dhamaan hay’adaha Samafalka iyadoo loo balan qaaday in Garoonada diyaaradu furan yihiin amaankooda la sugi doono si ay dadka Gobalka u soo gaarsiiyaan howlihii ay bulshada u qaban jireen.

 

Aqoon-iswaydaarsigan oo lagu doortay gudi ka kooban 28 xubnood oo ay ku jiraan Gudoomiyeyaasha degmooyinka Gobalka ayaa la sheegay inay Gudigan qaban-qaabin doonaa shirwayne heer Gobal ah isla markaasna ay u raadiyaan dhaqaalle lagu qabto shirkaasi.

 

Gudigan ka shaqayn doona howlaha nabada Gobalka ayaa waxaa gudoomiye loogu doortay Gudoomiyaha Deg. G/haareey Gaarane Nuur Maxamuud halka Cabdi Barre Cabdi isagana loo doortay Gudoomiye ku xigeen iyo C/qaadir Cismaan Jaamac oo xoghayn ah.

 

Aqoon-iswaydaarigan oo uu shir gudoominayay Gudoomiyaha Maamulka Degmada Baardheere Barre Cabdi Ismaaciil ayaa wuxuu u mahadceliyay Hay’ada SADO oo iyagu in mudo ahba ku howlanaa Barmaamijka tubta nabada Gobalka Gedo iyo Hay’ada CIDA oo bixisay dhaqaalaha, isagoo ugu baaqay dadweynaha ku nool Gobalka Gedo inay iska ilaawaan khilaafaadkii hore uga dhexeeyay wuxuuna ugu dambayntii Gudoomiyuhu ka codsaday Hay’ada Samafalka inay Gobalka ka qaadaan Cunaqabataynta.

 

Xasan C Keynaan

Gedonet, B/Dheere

[wind.talker]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

...in la qabto shirwayne heer Gobal ah laguna qabto degmada G/haareey mudo 45 casho gudohood ah, Balan qaad dhinaca nabadgaliyada Gobalka ah oo loo diray dhamaan hay’adaha Samafalka iyadoo loo balan qaaday in Garoonada diyaaradu furan yihiin amaankooda la sugi doono si ay dadka Gobalka u soo gaarsiiyaan howlihii ay bulshada u qaban jireen.

These are positive first steps, sxb. I must also say that its about time the differing factions put aside their minor differences and agree on a fundamental agenda that'll benefit them all at: centralized self-governance of Gedo region. The benefits far outweigh any counter-argument an opposition force could muster.

 

I'm not quite sure I fully understand the intra-politics of the region. What are the factions and what agendas do they adhere to? As in, what are the major disagreements v. alliances etc?

[Gabbal]

I'm not quite sure I fully understand the intra-politics of the region. What are the factions and what agendas do they adhere to? As in, what are the major disagreements v. alliances etc?

The first division and problems of the region started in the beginning of the civil war. It started as a result of two opposing views held by the majority of the inhabitants of Gedo and their relations throughout the country.

 

One half of the community wanted to say in the past and still recognized Mohamed Siad Barre (ilaahay ha u naxariisto) as the de facto head of state and believed that was what all reer Gedo and their relations should be working towards, on how to put the strong man back in power. The other half of the community realized that there was no way possible that the president could be put back to power and they wanted to move on and reconcil with the rest of the Somali nation concerning some of the bad deeds that had been done in the name of their sub-clan.

 

That problem worked itself when Siad Barre, realizing the he didn't have a good chance of going back to power and not wanting to create divison between the community, decided to accept Daniel Arap Moi on his invitation to go to Kenya and from there on to Nigeria.

 

 

 

This long-standing current conflict that is being pacified now has its roots in the leadership of the SNF. General Cumar Haji Massale, the leader of the SNF since 1991, was sent by members of the sub-clan to the United States for mediacl treatment. He has since been residing in the state if Virginia. With his leaving, there was a sudden and unexpected power vacuum in the SNF since it had accomadated only one chairman since its founding.

 

Two men then claimed leadership of the organization and with that the community efictively split into two. A majority of the people favored Abdirizak ***** Biixi and he was named chairman of the SNF, while the other contender Mohamoud Sayid Adden split from the SNF, allied himself with Ethiopia, and joined the coalition of SRRC anti-Carte groups.

 

Gedo was divided into SNF controlled areas and SNF/SRRC controlled areas until parliament of the transitional government was built. Both Abdirizaq and Mohamud were immediately named MPs and were told to leave Gedo for Nairobi thereby leaving the region to be administered by traditional leaders and intellectuals.

 

Now what we are seeing is the fruits of the long work that was done by the intellectuals and traditional leaders in trying to unify and pacify the region without the negative presence of the two men there.

 

Gedo has great potentional, the community wants to make sure that the future of the region is never left up to the ego of "strongmen" again. :cool:

[Rahima]

Mashallah, hopefully it will be successful.

[J.Lee]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

That problem worked itself when Siad Barre, realizing the he didn't have a good chance of going back to power and not wanting to create divison between the community, decided to accept Daniel Arap Moi on his invitation to go to Kenya and from there on to Nigeria

Interesting article Horn, the champion of, dare I say Gedonians. Mansha'allah, I hope they succeed in their endeavor insha'allah to bring prosperity and stability to the region.

 

In regards to the above qoute, I was under the impression, correct me if i'm wrong, that Barre (Ilaahay ha u naxariisto) was shown somewhat brutally that he didn't have the support of his sub-clan, didn't they turn against him thus leaving him no choice but to accept Moi's invitation?

[Gabbal]

that Barre (Ilaahay ha u naxariisto) was shown somewhat brutally that he didn't have the support of his sub-clan, didn't they turn against him thus leaving him no choice but to accept Moi's invitation?

Ms Word two of your "uncles" (literally) verbally whip lashing the late strongman didn't make him run away He decided the best course was the leave the situation in peace so as not complicate the situation in Gedo.

[J.Lee]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

quote: that Barre (Ilaahay ha u naxariisto) was shown somewhat brutally that he didn't have the support of his sub-clan, didn't they turn against him thus leaving him no choice but to accept Moi's invitation?

Ms Word two of your "uncles" (literally)

verbally whip lashing the late strongman didn't make him run away

He decided the best course was the leave the situation in peace so as not complicate the situation in Gedo.

Is that right, Well Mr.Horn I guess you are more knowledgeable of my family tree than I but it is factual knowledge dear, I'm sure you know by whom, that the "uncles" did indeed turn against "the strongman" since he was the reason they were fleeing in the first place. Though, I do agree that the "uncles" did want to reconcil with the rest of the Somali nation concerning some of the bad deeds that had been done in the name of their sub-clan.

 

I was wondering what is the link between Hiraale and Biixi? Also, why is Adden often, regarded as an enemy per se, by the people of Gedo?

[Sky]

horn africa, i expected a shir like garoowe 1998 saaxib, this is just a shir to strenghten peace for reer gedo. its really a good sign how all reer gedo put their effort in the peace of the area. for without peace, no development namsaying.

about your location saaxib, dalka waan kala aqaana. since when did galguduud have hills, are you serious about balanbale hills mise waa kaftan?

[CHE]

Horn,

 

I was wondering,if relations with other brethren sub-clans were part of the discussion?

 

And also ,if any, would this be of any conflict to the interests of folks in Galgaduud that were trying to join Puntland?.

[raula]

Horn-was the support for Barre(Allaha uu naxaristo) spurting from his sub-clan (as in reer siyad) or was it affirmed by the whole TRIBE(as in M/rehan). Iam asking this coz it seems like the other M/rehan clans are FAINT in GEDO politics-do tell me brother coz you are much more informed in HOME politics than I dear. On the other hand, It just dawned on me that the Reer Siyad might have had the "popularity" when the former regime was at place due to the support by Late president.

 

Abdirizak ***** Biixi

is he the one that resides in VA(or was it DC area?) and If yes, any relations to the former "Ambassador-Fadumo ***** Biixi" (from my understanding she also has a sister who resides in VA)

 

G/haarey again Delightful memories plus Celwaaq,BeledXawo,Baardheere,Tuulo Barwaaqo, Luuq..etc-Eating/munching on some XAMUR and at night my sisters would go for SAAR (Ar goobilo goobilo..ar goobilo gacalkiyo..markaan goobila tuumaa... ) :mad:

[Gabbal]

I was wondering what is the link between Hiraale and Biixi? Also, why is Adden often, regarded as an enemy per se, by the people of Gedo?

Well Hiiraale and Biixi virtually go hand in hand, they are each other's biggest supporters. Sayid Adden is not an "enemy", but his political ideology is considered "outside or alien" to the politics of the region and the community as a whole. At the time when Anti-Ethiopia feelings were high in the region and the community was in widespread support of the Carta government, Mohamoud Sayid Adden joined the SRRC pro-Ethiopia coalition, which was and is considered a grave sin in Gedo!

 

 

about your location saaxib, dalka waan kala aqaana. since when did galguduud have hills, are you serious about balanbale hills mise waa kaftan?

There are hills and mountains in western Galgadud bro Have you heard of Buurta Burgeesoole? It is the biggest mountain in all of Mudug and it located centrally between Cabudwaq and Balanbale.

 

Horn,

 

I was wondering,if relations with other brethren sub-clans were part of the discussion?

Their first priority is cleaning up their own house (about time I say). After thet, they can debate about where they fit in the national arean.

 

quote: Abdirizak ***** Biixi

 

is he the one that resides in VA(or was it DC area?) and If yes, any relations to the former "Ambassador-Fadumo ***** Biixi" (from my understanding she also has a sister who resides in VA)

He is not the one living in Virginia, thats Gen. Haji Massale, and yes he is a brother to the lady ambassador.

 

Horn-was the support for Barre(Allaha uu naxaristo) spurting from his sub-clan (as in reer siyad) or was it affirmed by the whole TRIBE(as in M/rehan). Iam asking this coz it seems like the other M/rehan clans are FAINT in GEDO politics-do tell me brother coz you are much more informed in HOME [big Grin] politics than I dear. On the other hand, It just dawned on me that the Reer Siyad might have had the "popularity" when the former regime was at place due to the support by Late president.

You had to name clan names didn't you? Let's hope the Admin doesn't get you

 

Actually most of the "community" was in league with Siad Barre, and the funny thing is his only opposition was coming from those that spurted from his sub-clan (as in Reer Siyad).

 

As for the "faintness" you alleged of the other sub-clans in Gedo politics, well they did not and do not want exacerbate the situation by disagreeing with Reer Siyaad (literally). That's exactly why the majority of the sub-clan sided with Col Abdirizaq ***** Biixi and against Mohamoud Sayid Adden. Mohamoud Sayid Adden and his reer Hassan (and their allied camps) felt disenfranchised and betrayed that the majority of the community sided against them (native reer Gedonians) and sided with Reer Siyaad (mostly immigrants from Mudug).

[wind.talker]

Horn -

 

Thanks for the info. Plus the Col. Biixi/Col. Barre Hiiraale alliance is new to me. I've known SNF-Biixi for sometime but I never knew how Hiiraale fit into the entire SNF thing. He seemed to appear out of nowhere and hit it big with the Kismaayo capture years ago.

[Gabbal]

I've known SNF-Biixi for sometime but I never knew how Hiiraale fit into the entire SNF thing. He seemed to appear out of nowhere and hit it big with the Kismaayo capture years ago.

Appeared out of nowhere? Col Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) is most famous for being the man to have repelled Caydiid's (ilaahay ha u naxariisto) invasion of Gedo! Way before Kismayo, it was Hiiraale's bullet that peirced Col Shabeele's body and sent Caydiid limping away in injury from Gedo! The man most responsible for the "independence" of Gedo and you say he appeared out of nowhere? :eek: WindTalker there are things I have to inform you about bro

 

After securing Gedo, Hiiraale made his way upto Galgadud and is the man responsible for having secured the peace in that area too! Not through the sword as in Gedo, but through a peace agreement that destroyed all the hostilities between reer Cabudwaq (and relations) and the other Muqdisho-affiliated clans in Galgadud. There was a "Walaalaha Galgadud" (coined by Caydiid's sub-subclan) way before Kismayo came into the picture bro and it had comprised of reer Cabudwaq and Abdiqasim's sub-clan as early as 1994.

[wind.talker]

Originally posted by HornAfrique:

Appeared out of nowhere? Col Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) is most famous for being the man to have repelled Caydiid's (ilaahay ha u naxariisto) invasion of Gedo! Way before Kismayo, it was Hiiraale's bullet that peirced Col Shabeele's body and sent Caydiid limping away in injury from Gedo!

I didn't even know any of this. So, he repelled Caydiid's invading militia. Then, time passed, and he called upon their assistance to capture Kismaayo? The unpredictability of Somali politics, I suppose.

[Gabbal]

Then, time passed, and he called upon their assistance to capture Kismaayo? The unpredictability of Somali politics, I suppose.

Well the original agreement in 1994 signed by the Ugaases of reer Guri-Ceel (who just passed away ilaahay ha u naxariisto) and reer Cabudwaq (he was assasinated ilaahay ha u naxariisto) spelled that in no circumstances where they (the two beels) to fight each other. It said that they should also support each other in times of need. I'll tell you how support was given in the Kismayo case.

 

In 1998 Gen Morgan expelled all those of Gedo/Cabudwaq descent from Kismayo. He forgot, due to the long era of stability, that reer Gedo/Cabudwaq played a large part in his ascension to power in Jubba politics. Col Barre decided to come down from Galgadud and see what he could do about the situation. The reason that reer Cabudwaq decided to come down was because ever since Gedo was secured, there wasn't a need for heavy military installations there. In the beginning of the civil war Gen Gaani and Col Hiiraale had taken the majority of military installations to Galgadud thinking that that was where the USC would hit them hard. After the reer Guri-Ceel and reer Cabudwaq signed a peace agreement, majority of the "community"'s military officers and military equaipment sat unused in Cabudwaq.

 

Which brings me back to my point. Gen Morgan inhumanely expelled certain folks from Kismayo and Barre Hiiraale decided that he would something about it. The Col with his entourage geared to go south, but the land they had to travel through, starting from Cabudwaq to Shabeelaha Hoose, was controlled by Muqdisho-affiliated clans. They couldn't risk a confrontation with those clans so as to not waste energy and resources in a conflict they weren't pursuing. The Ugaas of Guri-Ceel decided to send a small contingent of scouts with Barre Hiirale so as to guide him through those lands.

 

Barre Hiiraale and his soldiers safely made their way from Cabudwaq to Kismayo and he was able to defeat Gen Morgan. After taking control of Kismayo, Hiiraale invited the men who had escorted him to stay in Kismayo if they wished, to rescind the hospitality they showed.

 

Then the Carta-Abdiqasim government came and Barre Hiiraale, and his "constituency" who were already suporting the interim government, decided to make a pact with the men who travelled with him (of who the higest ranking was Yusuf Mire Seeraar) and a military grouping to soldify support for the president. That's why a "JVA" grouping was set up and Col Hiiraale named Commander and Seerar was named second in command.

 

That's the story of that part of the civil war history.