What is 4.5?

[DigibAc]

I had a number of questions about the 4.5 idea.

 

What is the 4.5 idea?

 

Who came up with the formula and what is its history?

[Castro]

4 "big" tribes, 0.5 all the rest. It's absolute bullshit, if you ask me. The idea is Somalis are divided into 4 big tribes and a whole bunch of "others" to become the 0.5. Using that magical 4.5 figure, the government, parliament and all things Somalia should be split that way.

 

No mention of merit anywhere. :rolleyes:

[Pujah]

I would really like to know the mastermind behind that formula.

[-Nomadique-]

A man who used exactly 4.5% of his potential brain power I imagine.

[Pujah]

^^ I bet some sycho came up with that while chewing his brains off

[Ebyan]

It's not perfect, but its better than the (1.0)system the courts employed.

[Castro]

^ The 1.0 system the ICU used was 'ONE' for Islam. Good luck with your 4.5.

[-Nomadique-]

I think perhaps the person(s) who came up with this model was keeping in mind obvious clan rivalries. Perhaps his heart was in the right place (who knows). But it is very flawed.

[Ebyan]

Maybe your type of Islam Castro, not mine.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

ya salaaam! Few corrections:

 

Somalia does not have tribes but clans. Somali is A tribe.

It is correct that we have four major clans and minorities that never had any representation before carta. AS for the reason behind it, if you have followed the events in Somalia sense, however small, you would not have asked such a question. why start now. Some of you are like the democrats: Opposition with a salution. If not 4.5, what should it be. perhaps 5.0?

[Taako Man]

The 4.5 was perfected during ARTA. The chief pioneer of it was Abdiqasim salad. The financier of the ICU or atleast one of the main money men.

Obviously 4.5 is a flawed concept. But much of Somalia is flawed. One side of my family is in the 4.0 and the other is 0.5. Sadly the case for making certain clans half of somalis are because they are of either low-caste, different ethnic groups, or different language group people.

 

inshallah when the government is fully established and elections happen in 2009, there will no need for this alien concept.

[RedSea]

Originally posted by Violet:

It's not perfect, but its better than the (1.0)system the courts employed.

All people are equal in the side of Allah was the system of the ICU,it's basic human system which we are suppose to function,however you may not compare that to 4.5,which Castro already explained.

[Fanisha]

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed:

Somalia does not have tribes but clans. Somali is A tribe.

Tribe: any aggregate of people united by ties of descent from a common ancestor

 

Clan: a group of people regarded as being descended from a common ancestor.

 

Are you sure you're a naxar and not a waxar?

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

fashista, clan and tribe are not the same. this is one of basic facts that does not require a dictionary. If you insist however here it is according to basic search answer.com

 

clan:A division of a tribe tracing descent from a common ancestor

A tribe:

Tribe: A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent.

A political, ethnic, or ancestral division of ancient states and cultures, especially:

Any of the three divisions of the ancient Romans, namely, the Latin, Sabine, and Etruscan.

Any of the 12 divisions of ancient Israel.

A phyle of ancient Greece.

[General Duke]

4.5 is a bad formula, but one that was inherited from the Arta meeting held in Djibouti and which ushered in the Abdiqasin government.

 

It is flawd and will be replaced by district based parliment in which each district in Somalia will get representatives, at the local parliment, councilors and the federal one.

 

It is a better formula than the 1.0 of the courts.