Caano Geel Posted July 5, 2009 Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Ummadyahay mar kale toosoo Calankiinna wada tiirshoo, Danta guud ku taagsada oo Isu wada tanaasula eey. Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Tawaabkoo qudhaa bixiyoo Gobannimada taam ka dhigee, Rabbi toobad weyddiistoo Talo saarta Weynaha eey. Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Qabiilkaad ku tookhdaan baa Qawmiyaddaada kaa tira oo, Tayo li'ida qoysqoyskaa Idin bada tabaalaha eey. Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Inuu Naar ku taro mooyee Dagaal ehel ma taabaggalee, Shacabkaa in loo tudho oo La tabantaabsho kaa mudaneey! Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Curaddadaada taargo'ayaa Tiiraanyo qaran weeyee, Walaalkiis kan tooganayow Adays jaray tagoogaha eey. Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Quruun teeda hanan weydaa Tiqo kuma leh dunideenee, Adduunyada ka tamin qaadtoo Assaagiina tiigsada eey. Somaliyaay toosoo Toosoo isku tiirsada ee Hadba kiina taag daranee Taageera waligiinee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted July 5, 2009 For the record: Aideed's USC captured Baidoa region from Siad Barre early 1992. And the International Community were only able to gain access to the region and help the people since and after then only. Anything else is pure rubbish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted July 5, 2009 Originally posted by Meiji: Blocking of Food Aid by corruption and war ---> mass starvation to death. So then why are you attempting to legitimize the genocidal mad men of those years? War dadku indho adkaa! Awoowe, listen to me carefully and listen to me well. I never excused away any actions committed during those mad years. I never excused away the other side nor the Barre side. Nothing that contributed to Somali fratricide is excusable or warrants defense whether is ambushing and torturing fleeing civilians in the middle of roads or resorting to burning food crops. But the reality is Somali has seen many comparable seasonal losses like the like that occurred as a result of that burning. Somalia has seen ****dheer, it has seen the 80's famine that came as a result of the refugees, and Somalia has even seen the East African drought of 2005 that is now called the single worst drought in that land in 50 years. The United Nations brought more food into Somalia then could have been collected from that harvest, so why was a single life lost? Why did people starve to death so Caydiid can steal all the food aid and use it as a political power? What led him to resort to such actions when the Bay and Bakool community were his allies in the fight against Barre? Nothing awoowe explains other than the fact he was a genocidal madman who gave a new definition to warlord. The world realized it and changed the mandate to use force against him to stop the disruption of humanitarian aid. But of course with your chatter about Mogadishu society and the likes, it is clear you are the remnants of a time in the civil war that has long been extinguished. Continue defending the indefensible awoowe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted July 5, 2009 Originally posted by Juje: For the record: Aideed's USC captured Baidoa region from Siad Barre early 1992. And the International Community were only able to gain access to the region and help the people since and after then only. Anything else is pure rubbish. What is rubbish is your history Jumatatu. Barre and his forces passed through Baidoa twice. The first passing was the march to Afgooye and the second was the routing from Afgooye in which they were retreating back to their lands. The USC took over the town during this retreat and the actions committed there are well recorded. It is not something up for discussion here. It is interesting to note the USC then immediately re-invaded Baidoa in 1995 as soon as the UN mission ended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoonLight1 Posted July 5, 2009 If a pople should be secessionists it should've been the people of Bay & Bakool, they suffered the worst, 350,000 of their relatives and children perished, Baidoa become an international symbol of starvetion and suffering and yet you'll never see them calling to breakaway from the rest of Somalia, they never built a single memory status in their city centres, and they don't hate the blue flag, the s'land guys should learn from these people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted July 5, 2009 ^That's a good point you know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted July 5, 2009 Gabbal however much you try sxb you cannot deviate that recent history to your benefit. The World Cameras and humanatarian agencies arrived in Baydhabo soon after forces loyal to Siad Barre were evicted. It is well documented the atrocities committed by these latter forces on the inhabitants of Bay and Bakool. Aideed was arguebaly the mother of all evils this civil-war has brought about but certainly not the catalyst, and you dont have to look far Gabbal to know who is the catalyst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted July 5, 2009 How about we let the Victims speak for themselves. It's unfortunate the stories of all Somali conflicts victims are not being chronicled. We are left with people who are more interested in finger pointing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted July 6, 2009 Jumatatu, you must be incredibly misinformed if you believe I will stand here and defend the sad and tragic events of the Somali civil war. My position is clear; nothing should be defended in the Somali fratricide, nothing, but no one had to die of starvation. Why don't you and your buddy there Meiji continue defending the Aideed whose infamous stature is synonymous with death and destruction throughout this world. One would think after Dayniile saw the light, all Somalis have finally agreed conclusively on an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sool_boy Posted July 6, 2009 Originally posted by sool_boy: quote:Originally posted by Juje: Gabbal however much you try sxb you cannot deviate that recent history to your benefit. The World Cameras and humanatarian agencies arrived in Baydhabo soon after forces loyal to Siad Barre were evicted. It is well documented the atrocities committed by these latter forces on the inhabitants of Bay and Bakool. Aideed was arguebaly the mother of all evils this civil-war has brought about but certainly not the catalyst, and you dont have to look far Gabbal to know who is the catalyst. siad bare controled baydhabo for 20 some years and people never starved , dont lie about it , dont try to repaint the truth ,usc toke over somalia and we all know what they did . usc toke over baydhabo and enslaved its people , at the end RRA kicked usc out and killed 500 usc fighters... we know the truth dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recovering-Romantics Posted July 6, 2009 Originally posted by MoonLight1: If a pople should be secessionists it should've been the people of Bay & Bakool, they suffered the worst, 350,000 of their relatives and children perished, Baidoa become an international symbol of starvetion and suffering and yet you'll never see them calling to breakaway from the rest of Somalia, they never built a single memory status in their city centres, and they don't hate the blue flag, the s'land guys should learn from these people. That's a fair point to make. No other group in Somalia has suffered as much injustice and atrocities and the people of Bay and Bakool. As for the topic, the revisionist tendencies of the Somali people is quite annoying. There were documented cases of scorched earth and also attempts to stop humanitarian assistance from reaching those people. It is an affront to deny one side of the story while condemning the other. One day, justice will prevail! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meiji Posted July 6, 2009 Gabbal, So by presenting the full story instead of letting the half-story of propagandists circulate I am defending someone? I presented the full story, and people wouldn't have died of starvation if their agricultural lands were not destroyed by the retreating and advancing forces in the Civil War. The failure to deliver the Food Aid to those people only made it worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted July 6, 2009 Originally posted by Gabbal: Jumatatu Nin yahow ninkaan magaciisa maad iska deysiid hadi kale abal daradada ayu so xasusana. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted July 6, 2009 Juje is Jumatatu ??? :confused: :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted July 6, 2009 Originally posted by MoonLight1: If a pople should be secessionists it should've been the people of Bay & Bakool, they suffered the worst, 350,000 of their relatives and children perished, Baidoa become an international symbol of starvetion and suffering and yet you'll never see them calling to breakaway from the rest of Somalia, they never built a single memory status in their city centres, and they don't hate the blue flag, the s'land guys should learn from these people. Should have said that a bit louder in the early 90s. It is too late now. Go back to talking about who killed who instead, saaxib. Forget SL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
