ayoub loool yea there seems to be alot of naturalisations these days lool we gataa slow down these applicants.

since somalia is well on the way to making the 15 peace process another failure with their new rounds of deadly wars, is forign millitary occupation the last saving grace for somalia, few years of millitary rule and to forget builtding useless clan parliaments but intead to forge a governing council of hand picked individuals with large foreing troops to enforce that ruling councils rule, troops that are willing to fight and take loses withough running off untill all the current warlords and millitias are made weak and overtaken by new armed force.. but is the international community willing to spend money on somalia??

hey since this topic is gettin tad bit boring i would suggest that we leave it at that if there is any "that" point any where in this topic. clearly what this thread has shown us that somaliland is the only hot topic for all somalis everywhere as i believe this is the only somali enhabited somali region that has something going for it and as somalis only like to nock down something that is doing something good then the fact that somalis alway having a raging debate about the phenomenon that is somaliland is not suprise at all. and as staunch supporter of my country who defends it till the cow come home i actually like the fact that my country is constant hot topic as this shows my beloved country is vibrant and worth an argument. there is a somali maah maah (saying) that goes Rag waxaa ugu ayaan daro leh ninka aan la tirin markuu joogo, markuu maqan yahayna aan la tebin which roughly translates as; the worse of men is the one that does not get counted when he is present and his absence is not realised when he is missing may somaliland always induce a debate of monumental scale

I wonder what some people would do if somaliland cut the steady supply of CAANABOODHE to certain people in ethopia. they would panick i suppose. talking of clan states, has anyone heard of phantom state called Ogadee*ia :eek: now that is clan phantom state or sub clan should i say.

it looks like the hate filled individuals are getting desparate. looool its so funny watching people drawn in their own all consuming hate incapable of rational though.. they become like deranched robbotic, aaaah how somaliland has destroyed some people innability to lead a normal life.

OG yes abdulahi xasan was fighting in the name of qabiil everyone knows that but he tried to cloak it in nationalism which is very weird because if one examines his his peoms which was a window to his true identity there isnt a shred of natiolism about him all there is to him is a vile spreading of tribal warmongering and disgracefull propagation of vile rhetoric amongs all somali clans that have never been seen before him.

OG-GIRL am sure you are fighting for somalis cause OG-GIRL and not any clan or sub clan which is great to hear. Abdullahi xasan was just another tribilistic warlord ahead of his time, who spread hatred and tribilism unheard of at that time. he thought he could fool anyone with his qabiilist agenda covered in sheet of nationalism. all he achieved was to do great damage to somali clan he convinced with his vile rhetoric, and to this day they havent fully recovered the damaged he caused them. Natty since you have stated that you have shunned our beloved religion ISLAM and became a kafir, then this argument or anything else do with our affairs is closed to you since we are not even of the same human kind any londer so please hold your peace and dont bother me as my religion is more important than my nationality million folds and you will no longer speak for any parts of somali peninsiler as that luxury has been lost to you.

og isnt it funny how you waste alot of energy in a former state that you have never been a citizen of nor will ever be citizen of, am sure if look at the map you will realised where you from maybe you should concentrate learning to coexist with your country men. maybe you should thank cigaal (may allah rest his soul) who signed you over to a such well functioning and stable country. As for the KURDS i believe the kurds are known as those who dont have their destiny in their hands, whom decisions are made for to this day.

Rahima so are you suggesting that somaliland is somehow unislamic (as separe nation) can you explain bit more how so.

Its so funny because the anti-somaliland cohorted loose arguments always is self defeating and the funniest one is the clan argument they wheel out, which attempts to potray somaliland as entitiy with tribal foundation but to simply blow this baseless argument off the water you just say whats the 4.5 thing that your whole warlord turn government is built on its 100% qabiil. then they say but one qabiil is majority and therefore owns somaliland.. well in that case the a certain qabiil living in muqdisho is majority in numbers money and political power in somalia and therefore owns somalia (watch people come running steaming with anger). Horn friend it is clear you are not aware of the direction the political wind is blowing and you simply showing everyone this with your silly childish insults withough any reall political debate. what i was telling you was that the little gimmic that somali warlords tried to fool the world with ( *** woqooyi gimmick) failled to fool anyone and it died in its tracks and since then they were forced accept that somaliland was and still is outside the perimeters of embaghati new government. Therefore the only solution left to them to make a government and have official talks with somaliland, but if you cannot diggest this new reallity then i suggest you keep up you silly insults and still remind anyone who cares to listen that we are represented there.

ameenah "who are we to beat" looool you confident there, you up against either. Awdal- the boramiis team used to be average they have improved alot. Hageisa- dangerous team with alot of money spent on training and kits sool- they were rubish last year but, they favourites this year as they got younger team and much fitter team. saxil- berbarawiis could win it, as they are used to playing seering heat. sanaag- this year could be their year as ceerigabo was last beaten year finalist

xoogsade what you sxb said was commendable as it takes guts to see the reality on the ground compared to some others who confused whats reality today and what we somalilanders poineered and planted in their hearts and since to this day they have done nothing but stamp on that dream. I dont know why you guys are getting the Pan Somali Nationalism that was needed over 40 years ago now, because i asked my self have people from south somalia learned patriosm after civil war, or have you guys just looked around and realised that all other somalis have packed their bags and left you alone to your distructive politics that destroyed every thing that was dear to somalis and you still using it on yourselfes to this day. i cant help but feel that you guys were never really patriotic about somalia and to this day i dont believe you are because each persons patriosim seems to be a way to enlarge your lot on the expences of others. so when you guys talk about patriosm and nationalism we see that as an irony in itself.

Recent events have shown that actually the somali factions have finaly excepted the only solution left is to talk as two governments they have excepted as soon as they realised the so called "representatives of somaliland" in the peace process had no credibility or any weight behind them whatsoever.. then they realised their final concorted plan to involve somaliland was exhuasted and the game was up. in the Words of Adna Adan during an interveiw she said "Every country has their mercinaries" when asked about the so called representatives of somaliland born individuals by a african radio station which pretty much sums up those those individuals. few weeks ago the kenyan based factions used to always jump to their usuall "somaliland is represented here (by those individuals) to counter this somaliland government then said we will only speak to Democraticly elected (by the people ) government.. in another words we wont speak to you at all. and The main opposision party kulmiyes leader Siilanyo took even stronger position and said there wont be any discutions whatsoever. this two imposible positions worried certain countries lead by britian who then decided to become the country to set the talks up a dialogue between the two through their deligates in kenya, what they did was to get somalia to stop using the mercanary "individuals" as some kind of legitimate representatives of somaliland. which they have succeeded because no one puts enthasis on those individuals anymore. on the other side, they have managed to get somaliland to agree to talks withought setting their rules of engagement to nearly imposiible hights.. and this is why within the last two weeks both the government and the the two opposition parties dropped most of their claws on their agreement to talk to somalia new government with the only exception that somalia drops their claims to somaliland. Jack straw was in addid Abbaba ethopia not long ago and he sent an Unofficial letter to both parties to explain what their plans are. But Italy and United Emmirites are dead set against any talks between the two, for different political reasons.

libaax and waryaa widh widh is in the degaan of Buhoodle, togdheer its in hawd as you can see the red sand, its the second or third village in this degaan which comprise of of total of around 13 villages.

natty then you are not atheist since you believe in god, but you are kafir nevertheless and equaly as worthless

so thats what you are an atheist, did you used to be muslim then.

natty am nor good at identifying lyrics, if i heard it i might recornise it but i dont. why do you call yourself atheist????? :confused:

natty whats gawaher, never heard od that term, is that xabashi language or something it sounds like it :confused:

looool little tricks you learn around here

natty yes i have heard of it as it was the official album song, but i really prefered others.

natty of course how can i forget natty dread had No woman no cry and revolution songs in it. mali-GIRL dont get mad about the lamo labo business, you the one asked and i gave you an answer lool we call 2 = labo branches = lamo/laamo like (cano/caano) but sorry if you disapointed with the answe, try someone else.. and anyway you shouldnt really argue with awoowo as awoowo is always wiser

am sure thats how i spelt mountain :confused:

natty the country i resides at the moment is not somaliland. p.s what does your name mean if you dont mind, nattydread?

labo = 2 lamo = branches (where am from) so sorry they not the same loooool

yes son eagles are found throught mountained ranges of east africa the locals called them kulaambay i believe.