HATERZ READ AND WEAP THE FEW OLD CRONIES CANCELL THEIR LITTLE DEMOSTRATION AGAINS THE PRESIDENT OF SOMALILAND, READ AND YOU WILL KNOW WHY. dadweynaha Somaliland ee qurbo-joogga ah ee ku dhaqan gobollada dalka Ingiriiska iyo dalalka kale ee Yurub iyo Woqooyiga Ameerika ayaa si weyn isugu diyaarinaya qorshe ballaadhan oo ay ugu talogaleen soo dhaweynta Madaxweynaha kuna taageerayaan socdaalkiisa taariikhiga ah. Jaaliyadaha Somaliland ee magaalada London iyo magaalooyinka kale ee Ingiriiska ayaa la sheegay in ay hadda ku hawlan yihiin abaabul ballaadhan oo ay ugu diyaargaroobayaan soo dhaweynta weftiga Madaxweynaha iyo taageerada qorshaha socdaalkiisa. Waxa hadda qandaraas lagu bixiyey kumanyaal xabbo oo ah calaamado iyo boodhadh ay ku qoran yihiin halku-dhegyo ka tarjumaya qaddiyadda goonni-isu-taagga Somaliland iyo tobanaan kun oo ah calanka Somaliland iyo garamo ay ku xardhan yihiin magaca Somaliland. Ilaa 10,000 (Toban kun) oo muwaadiniinta Somaliland ee qurbo-joogga ah oo ka kala yimi daafaha dalka Ingiriiska, iyo dalal kale oo ka tirsan Yurubta Galbeed oo ay ka mid yihiin Faransiiska, Jarmalka, Denmark iyo Holland ayaa la sheegay in ay isu diyaariyeen in ay soo dhaweynta Madaxweynaha u yimaaddaan magaalada London, iyaga oo kiraystay Basas iyo Tareenada dhulka hoostooda mara ee yimaadda Ingiriiska. Sida ay tibaaxeen wararku dadweyne kale oo tiradoodu gaadhayso ilaa 150 oo ka imanaya Woqooyiga Qaaradda Maraykanka ayaa la sheegay in ay hadda ku qulqulayaan magaalada Toronto ee dalka Kanada, halkaas oo ay ka soo raaci doonaan dayuurad ay soo ingaydh kiraystaan oo ay ku yimaaddaan London, ka hor inta aan Madaxweynuhu socdaalka ku iman. Sida ay noo soo sheegeen weriyeyaasha toddobaadlaha Jamhuuriya ee London qabanqaabiyeyaasha soo dhaweynta Madaxweynaha ee London ku sugan ayaa diyaarinaya bannaanbax la filayo in ay ka qaybgalaan in ka badan 10,000 oo qurbo-joogga Somaliland, kuwaas oo ku kulmi doona maalinta Arbacada ee 17ka March, barxadda weyn ee ku hortaalla Aqalka Wakiillada (House of Commons) Ingiriiska ee loo yaqaan Whitehall ee agagaarka xarunta Wasaaradda Arrimaha Gudaha Ten Downing Street. Mudaharaad kale oo ka dhan ah socdaalka Madaxweynaha Somaliland iyo weftigiisu ku tagayaan Ingiriiska ayaa la sheegay in qabanqaabadiisa in ay isku dayayeen kuwa ka horjeeda goonni-isu-taagga Somaliland ee u dhashay Koonfurta Soomaaliya, kuna nool dalka Ingiriiska. Hase yeeshee, mudaharaadkaas waxa la sheegay in qabanqaabadiisii ay ka joogsadeen kuwii ku hawlanaa, kadib markii ay dareen cabsi leh ku keentay diyaargarowga ballaadhan ee bannaanbaxa qurbo-joogga Somaliland ku taageerayaan socdaalka Madaxweynaha.

SIDEE LOO ABAABULAY WAFTIGA SOO DHAWAYNTA MADAXWEYNAHA EE CARIGA INGIRIISKA Abaabulka soo dhawaynta waftiga uu Madaxweyne Riyaale uu horkacyo ayaa dhamaan magaalonyinka dalka Ingiriisku kakoobanyahay laga wadaa taas oo ay magaalo kasta ay soo agaasimayaan sidii ay usoo dhawaynlahayeen Madaxweynaha iyo waftiga, iyadoo lagu guddo jiro habkii qaybtooda uga qaadanlahayeen soo dhawaynta, taas oo ku imanayaa maagaalonyinka badankoodu dhawr basas.magaaloyinka sidaa xooga leh hawsha looga wada waxaa kamida Birmingham, Cardiff, Bristol, Leicster, Shefield. Shucuurta dadka muuqata ayaa ah mid aad himiloodu usarayso taas oo aad kadareemyso wajiyada sida farxadda ee ay ujecelyihiin inay soo dhaweeyaan madaxweynahooga. “markaad qiimeyso shucuurta dadka kamuuqata ayaa waxaad daraymaysaa maalintii xornimadda ay qaadatay Somaliland” waxaana hadalka igu yidhi nin waayeela. Waxaad arkaysaa dadka udiyaara inay soo dhawaynayaa waftiga oo afkaartooda taageeridda Xisibiyada oo ay kukuladuwanyihiin, haddana wada shaqaynayaa oo gacmaha is haysta iyagoo muhiimada siinaya qaranimadda Somaliland. Waxaad aad uga dareemaysaa goobaha laysagu yimaado jawiga soo dhawaynta waftiga ee kamuuqada iyagoo aad loo lahadalhayo sidii kaalin buuxda looga qaadanlahaa soo dhawaynta. London ayaa iyaduna ah Xarunta uu Waftigu uu Madaxweynahu horkacayo uu kusoo degayo waxaana kasocda abaabul xoog leh oo ay wadaan dhaaman qaybaha bulshada kakoobantay ha’ugu horeeyaan ururada reer Somaliland ee kajira dalka Ingiriiska , waxaana lasamayay guddi oo ah guddiga qabanqaabada soo dhawynta, haddaba mar aan khadka telefoonka kulaxiidhay guddiga ayaawaxay warbixin kooban iishegeen siday udhacayso hawshu Waxayna yidhaahdeen sidan: 17 March 2004 waxaa dhacayaa mudaharaad weyn oo ka dhici doonaa Whitehall, Central London SW1 Wakhtigaas oo ku began saacada uu Mudane Madaxweynahu ka jeedinayo khudbad taariikhi ah baarlamaanka Ingriiska (House of Commons). 1. waxaa kaloo dhici doono habeen casho sharafa oo aanu ugu talagalnay waftiga madaxweynaha iyo Mudanayasha aqalka Barlamaanka Ingiriiska. waxkaloo dhici doona xaflad balaadhan uu waftiga madaxweynuhu lakulmi doonaan shacbiga reer Somaliland. Wakhtiyada iyo meelaha ay kadhici doonan wali lamasoo saarin. Mar aan wax kaweydiiynay qaabka mudaharaadka uu dhacayo 17 March 2004 iyo boodhadhka ay dadku qaadandoonaan waxa kuqoran, waxay iigu jawaabeen sida tan “ Mudaharaadku waa mid shacbiga reer Somaliland kumuujinayaan gooni isutaaga Somaliland taas oo ay kumuujinayaan in Caalamku ictiraafo karaabaan, taas oo ay usoo bandhigayaan caalamka heerka maanta ay Somaliland gaadhay, boodhadhka aanu diyaarinay waxaa kuqoran weedhahan. SOMALILAND DEMOCRACY, SUPPORT SOMALILAND RECOGNIZE SOMALILAND, SOMALILAND DESERVES RECOGNITION PROMOTE PEACE, PROMOTE SOMALILAND RECOGNITION NOT REPRETION 14 YEARS PEACE STABILITY YES TO SOMALILAND NO TO SOMALIA WECOME SOMALILAND GOVERNMENT TO UK WHERE IS OUR PEACE DECEDENT ???????????? Waxayna Guddigu boorinayaan una soo jeedinayaan jaaliyada reer S/land ee UK in aanyay u kala hadhin banaanbaxan. Waftigan imanaya dalka oo tiradoodu kudhawtahay 14 qof ayaa siday iisheegen ila xogogali waxaa kasoo horeynaya waftiga Maxamed Rashiid Sh Xassan oo gogol xaadh usamaynaya Waftiga uu hogaaminayo madaxweynuhu. Reported: Cabdiraxman Cismaan Qootaali qootaali1@hotmail.com

Hey stop crying and wasting our time just bring what you got cos trus me we will. Abaabulka Sheffield ee soo dhawaynta Madaxwaynaha Somaliland Waxaa beryahan danbe aad isu abbaabulaayey shirar is dabajoogana isugu immanayey maalmahii u danbeeyey jaaliyada reer somaliland ee degan magaalada sheffield ee yorkshire. Waxa ay sameeyey gudiyo fara badan oo ay ka mid yahiin gudida abaabulka , gudida dhaqaalaha, gudida sawiro ama boodhadh samaynta iwm. Dadkaasi waxay aad ugu dadaalayeen sidii ay ugu hir geli lahayd qabanqaabadasi iyo munaasabadaas soo dhawaynta madaxwaynaha iyo damaashaadka London laysugu imanaayo. Dhamaan magaalooyinka ku yaala wadankan Britain iyo wadamada ku dhaw dhaw ee Europe ayaa beryahan ku hawlanaa sidii ay uga midha dhalin lahaayeen arrintaas Waxa aad moodaa inay dadku leeyahiin ma sugi karno immaatinka madaxwaynaha ee waxaanu sii tegaynaaba London waxaanay ku dadaalayaan sidii ay suurto gelin lahaa una dhabayn lahaayeen hamigoodii dheeraa ee ay ku doonayeen sidii ay dalkoodii hooyo ictiraaf ugu heli lahaayeen oo aad maanta moodo inuu soo geba geboobay qarkana uu soo saaranyahay ictiraafkii ay mudada dheer kuy hawlanaayeen Mahad allah leh Sharaf Maxamed baa leh Guul iyo gobonimo somaliland baa leh Abdi Alim Sheffield UK www.qaranews.com

Mob That issue has been done long time ago when all concern in sool and sanaag bari along with all the other inhabitans of somaliland was asked and they decided to break from the union, now this agreement cannot just be broken by few greedy individuals who work for their own gready self , and use qabiil to go fishing, no my friend somaliland was not invented by this qabiil certain people get obsessed with but by all, and it wont be stopped for anyone.

Am going to ignore the person who posted the pictures becasue it is clear the reason he posted was to take cheap shots at certain members of this forum, which i think is dispicaple and sad to us this as political argument. On the issue of this on going argument between somalilanders and others on the issue of genocide, i would say that i dont think any somalilander says that the wasnt suffering in the south all we say is that somaliland suffered the larges genocide that took place in the former somalia republic. now the difference between what happened in somaliland and the rest of somalia is quite different becasue the genocide that happened in somaliland was carried out by the GOVERNMENT OF REPUBLIC OF SOMALIA while most of the killing that happened in the south was done by war lords and clan millitia groups. The PRESIDENT of somalia gave the order to massacre these people and it was carried out by the top millitary generals of the republic of somalia, it wasnt done by some rac tag warlords or some millitia men. while most of the killing in rest of somalia happened after the government collapts and the place was over run by clan warlords who just went on killing spread on top of this there was the great famine of 92 which exasparated by the suffering of the people in this region. so there is big difference, when your own president gives orders to attemt to wipe out whole cities and gets the national army to carry it out, its like Bush giving orders to start the distruction of New York and Maimi and gets the Air force to bombard it day and night, cos thats what happened in somaliland The somali Air force with the blue flag was bombarding the cities day and night. discrimanately droping bombs on the streets. Now if your own warlords slaughter you then what what the f**k do you want Somaliland to do, should we come to muqdisho and fight them, All i know is these warlords wouldnt be there still killing if they werent getting the support financially and otherwise from the popilation at large, cos thats how they survive collecting money from their clans and no matter how many innocent people he massacred his clan clap their hand and collect money for them. so what do you expect.

yasmine If i were you i wouldnt waste too much energy on these people, these people only cry somalinimo when they are down, then they cry SOMALIYEEY as if somalinimo was born yesterday, or as if the concept of somalinimo was invented by them and their old political cronies, we have seen and heard their empty rhetorics their constant drum beats thats seems only to come when it suits their own ends. its been clear for while now there are certain people who can never stand up on their own two legs withough trying to use hook onto someone else to get up, but today there is no hook that was there yesterday, its suvival of the fittest and its clear some people are swimming in the mud. ...and suprise suprise the tired cry of somalinimo echoes again, like a cloak to hide an ugly truth, a truth that we have known for while now. those who yearn for some old gone political heydays seems to have lost the cold daylight of reality in their adventures of nolstagic day dreams.

ABU-AMMAR While you may believe your own endless propaganda veiws, but you are fooling no one but yourself, you can quote allpuntland.com all you like but we know what this site spews out on a dailly basis is nothing but tribal and hate filled garbage, please is that all you have everyone knows your angle, every somali has seen and heard your empty rhetoric before and your distorted political veiws, somalis have seen what you and yout likes are made of we have heard the fake drums of somaliweyn when you dont even know the core defenition of somali-weyne. You and your likes may dream of your long gone political heydays but just make sure you take sniff of the cold breeze of reality from time to time. Believe me jumping up and down and kicking up a dust while while playing the same old political drum will not turn the politcal wheel of fortune that seems to have wizzed passed you. As a somalilander i get smile on my face when people make fuzz about somaliland, why you may ask, becasue there is a saying that goes "cidna ma xamato nin kabala" cos no one makes fuzz about you if you nothing, so may people make fuzz about somaliland forever. ALLAH MAHAD LEH MOHAMED BAA SHARAF LEH SOMALILAND BAA GUUL LEH

ABU-AMMAR AND BARI it seems you two are willing to talk about somaliland and its democratically elected president daahir riyaale yet when someone mentions our uncle abdulahi yusuf we seem to get into a tangle, i wonder why that is, could it be the truth is closer to home than we wish to believe. could it be the enemy of somalia is more closer than we want to believe. dear fellow somalis when ones true intention are clouded with venom, when ones smiles is served with poisonious frowns, when one diggs so many holes of hatered eventually they fall in it.

Going Back on the issue of muqdisho, there is no doubt its now inhabited by the people from that region of somalia and as a tribal society that somalis are i think somalis should stay this way until they are willing to live with each other peacefully but lets not blind ourselves somalis are not at a stage so rewinfing the clock infact i dont ever think it will go back to how it was once trully. so everyman to his region and village i say. And to those who always cry how bad muqdisho i think most people know who they are but all i have to say is get over it go to your village that you abandoned over 30 years ago in rush to muqdisho and built that town. in any case muqdisho is not as "bad" as people make it out to be, so please drop this vindeta agains muqdisho and concentrate on your own regions.

Originally posted by ABU-AMMAR: Rahima, There you go again love, this is not about puntland its about our land. ABU-AMMAR have you ever looked in whats in your bowl of fortune rather than always looking in whats in somalilanders, cos it seems the people of your political ilk only seem to look in one direction. It seems you can only look at the status of my shoes and constantly telling me how bad they are, while if you ever took the time and looked down you would realise you are not wearing any. I realise you and your likes veiws on life these days are motered and fuelled by somaliland in itself, while that initself is not a suprised as somaliland represents the extreme core-fabrics of your old and has been political dreams of the haydays, but what is a supprise a how you believe anyone believes your cry of "SOMALIA", thats constantly exumes from your lot. infact i laugh at how you have even convinced your selves that you are the new saviours of somali race. so please dont be coward who wants to have a political veiws but dares not express the intention behind that veiw.

Yusuf what western concepts is somaliland adhering to that that somalia and the rest of muslim world is not doing could your clarify the sweeping statement you made about somaliland.

When the SNM over threw the dictatorship regime of afweyne, there was bound to be reprisals against those people who where loyal whether political wise or clan wise to the old regime. the regime of Afweyne did things on clan basis so you cant complain when the population did things on clan basis as well. it is documented and recorded where the largest civilian killing took place whether people deny it or not. we all know that there will will incidents following the fall of regime like that but to tell you the truth there was never any systatic killing of monirity clans in somaliland infact i remember most of them were allowed to leave peacefully to go to south and the SNM even provided transport for them. When the SNM took ceerigabo there was no civilian killings done by them there were incidents but that was always going to happen, although the clan that was related to siade barre fled ceerigabo but they were allowed to return after while. the clan that lives in ethopia was also allowed to leave withought any major hasstle. now all these clans had major hand in the masacres that happened burco and hargiesa and majority of them were fully supporting the regimes, so they should be thankfull to the SNM and somalilanders in general for their incredible gesture of forgiveness. now compare this to what they done to them in muqdisho and the south were they completely and utterly wiped out anyone related to the former regime, the rape the torture and utter humiliation of thousands upond thousands of people were even to this day they dare not set foot in that region. maybe they shouldve reacted like their brethens from muqdisho, as it seems thats the only language these people seem understand.

There is nothing new here as to waste alot of time on, but i will say this that us Somalilanders have been busy organising the welcoming of president Daahir Riyaale, infact for the last two weeks there have been frantical activities by official somaliland organisations groups, coaches of people have been arriving from all over the Uk and from all over Europe to attend these welcoming parades, these groups also organised dates when daahir riyaale will address somalilanders in the UK. So demostrate by all means but have no doubt who that day will belong to.

Mr Odweyne i must say you have alot of energy to answer and remind "certain" people of their fate and rightfull place, you do this on a reguler basis with zest and confiction, but i must also add that there is no point in waisting your time with a defeated lot politicaly and otherwise, they are like wind up clock who repeat the same political garbage from centries ago, since the "sayid" or mad goat brainwashed them they have been stuck in political and cultural time warp confusing the HORSE with the BMW, so indeed they will recycle the same drool again and again until somehow they break out of their little time box and figure out the HORSE from the BMW. In the mean time its a brave new world with new unquestioned chain of command in somali politics whether in Somaliland or Somalia, but ofcourse the echoes of the cult like former somali politics or the DEFEATED lot as you put will be with us for while.

Its sad, very sad how low the somalis have come, the people somalis used to look down uppon as "adoons" are now herding somalis in "Xero Doofaar" for over a 15 months herding them like a herd of sheep and dictating everything to them, what an irony of all oronies that these so called leaders are on their knees panting to their particuler "sponser" and singing their tunes for them. It is very clear indeed this is not going to give birth to anything better than the hopeless TNG, so somalis better get geared up for the next "SOMALI BEGGING CONFERENCE" in another another godforesaken land

There has been cloud gathering in garowe in the last few weeks that could suggest the administration in puntland are in trouble due to infighting within the administration, and civil unrest in bossaso and garowe. since Cabdullahi Yousuf left puntland there seems to be different forces at work with their own agenda and many believe the guy who was left in charge of puntland has his own agenda to undermind C/Y, as we all know C/Y is not allowed to leave kenya until the conference finishes and it seems alot of people are using this time to get their agenda underway. all this is compounded by the war plan in sool which has gone wrong for the puntland adminitration due to alot of dessertion into the other camp, garowe which espaped the troubles of bossaso is now under dark cloud with the murder of the minister. so the question is what is happening and is this administration about to implode.???

There are reports that this was political motivated rather than this story that was put out by puntland administration, this minister was involved with an argument between puntland administration, somethign smells fishy here?????

this smells of desparation to me i wonder why radio cabdullahi yusuf wont talk about the impending crisis in the two cities that is puntland and the ministers lining up to head for ceerigabo :cool: the truth is this so called administration in puntland does not know where its coming from or where it is going ina yey has been beaten politicaly hands down, i heard they are now saying they want ethopia to send troops, i sometimes laugh at these headless chickens mark my words a bullet will not be fired in sool.

I think somaliland stategy on eastern front is working quite well, as we all know C/Y was hoping that things would blow up in sool and there would be a qabiil orientated war which he hoped would get him a broader support but it has backfired on him spectaculaly, he has constantly tried in vein to collect millia from the enhabitants of sool, he was told in no uncertain terms that this is his problem. but now it seems he has even a bigger problem in kenya where he has been outmanouvered by abdi qassim, he says he was tricked into signing a documents, you have to wonder to yourself if this guy can even read :cool: P.S there is news that more ministers are on their way soon, to claim asylum