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Hassan Turki: Somalis Should be Ready to fight against the UN Troops
Abtigiis replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
^ Let others tell you the details. But I think you know the difference. Ethiopia has an agenda in Somalia, while I am assuming a contingent of UN troops from various countries won't have a pre-determined objective of siding with warlords or sowing seeds of discord among the clans. Adi se wixii koonfur ku dagi waa hoogaa oo ma ogolid!! -
Hassan Turki: Somalis Should be Ready to fight against the UN Troops
Abtigiis replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
Malika It is that I know sympathetic Somali's in their millions, like you, are out there; that gives me an immense solace. Amiin, ha la aqbalo walaal. Don't mind the madness and other paints. Even the Rasuul (SCW) has been called a witch, an imposter, and a zany wanderer. Who am I? A nobody basically!! So, that won't worry or discourage me. But it is intersting that contrary to the characterisations I am given, I am a man of peace. It is only ONE position I have taken on a solitary issue that triggered all the name calling. At no point did I espoused violence, posted tribal comments or hyped vitriols of war against fellow somali's. So, the labels kind of surprised me. Coming from established veterans of SOL, it was only natural they will stick. And the desciples run wild with it. Slowly, but surely they will wake up to their blunders. I know. Ok, let me not dwell much on defending myself. You did that more than I could have done. -
Hassan Turki: Somalis Should be Ready to fight against the UN Troops
Abtigiis replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
^ make no mistake. I will never ever tone down my hate and loathing to Abysinnian rulers. The people of Ethiopia are good and god-fearing humans, perhaps more closer to Somali in many ways than any other race. But their rulers have continously displayed a policy of destruction and enemity towards Somali's. The current one is perhaps the worst. Charity begins at home and the "overflowing love" Meles has for Somalia and his attempt to "reconstruct" its people, should have been due more on the suffering Somali's in Somaligalbeed. No regime has killed, maimed and molested the pride of Somali's than that of Meles. The war in Somalia is only one phase of a long war of liberation that is yet to come. There will be no peace until the people of Somaligalbeed finally manage to deterimne who they want to be. We have never been Ethiopians, we are not Ethiopians and we will NEVER be Ethiopians. WE are Somali's and we will join a great and proud Somali nation. For all the redicule my emotions might evoke, and for all the 'what an Idealist' chants I hear in my sub-conscious, I have no doubt that dream will come along as real one day. I may not be there to see it though. The determination of my people and the anger of the youth (who are sentenced to deaths at will in kangaroo courts) on a daily basis assures me of the inevitability of that victory!! If Somali's wish not to count us as worthy brothers who need their support, or at least their sympathy, I only see them as brothers who are wronging another brother. It will never diminish my love and longing for them. Somaliweyn is not a dream of the fools!!!! -
^ He is talking about Eritrean attempts to break up the opposition. What is he doing right now with all these useless protestations in front of the media. Muu hawshiisa hoosta ka dhamaysto!! If he is no longer in agreement on the vision and strategies of those he blames, he should say it loud. He should outline where he differs and what he wants to accomplish. He should highlight what arrangments are in place for him to achieve his objectives. And maybe, he will win our hearts. Otherwise, chants of patriotism and claims of holding monopoly on the silver key to heaven in Somalia won't stand the test of time. Testing times make a man. It also kills a man. All the publicity stunts and zealous pronouncements of walaalayaal won't give bread or peace to the bleeding somali nation. We still have no clue of the framework or modalities under which the Sheikhs group intends to work with the TFG. We haven't heard unequivocal position on what he thinks about face to face talks with the TFG. The same is true on his position on the presence of Ethiopian army in Somalia. We know he hasn't retracted,officially, his firm positions on both issues. Maybe, It is premature and unfair of me to be so pessimistic. But my instincts rarely failed me. And it augurs bad omen, here. Let us see what the good Sheikh will do next. I for one is prepared to give him all the time and benefit of doubt he requires.
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^^ Emperor I felt that too. We must not get stuck on one issue. I am a late comer to this forum. And one thing I saw distrubed me. There is no question people in this forum are exceptionally gifted and intelligent. But, I saw a trend of bullying a particluar way of thinking. And the victims responded by disengaging from objective discussions on that controversial issue. Or maybe they have exhausted all that needs to be said long time ago and resigned to the fact they can't go any further. But I think that sullies the othewise marvellous potential of this forum to educate, entertain and hopefully nurture positive and civilized thinking on matters that are dear to all of us.
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Hassan Turki: Somalis Should be Ready to fight against the UN Troops
Abtigiis replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
Sheekh Xassan Turki is crazy and primitive. There is no reason to fight the UN troops. That is if they are coming to replace the Tigre mercenaries. I don't support him in any way; but I can understand the fears of him, Sheekh Xassen Dahir Aweys and those listed as terrorist by the UN and the US. It is only logical that they will fight to the last bullet if they do feel, rightly, personally unsafe. It is what each of us would have done. I know some might twist this comment to score political points, but who would have accepted to voluntarily march to the guillotine? The UN must provide safe exit roads for those who feel threatened by the change of the status quo in a package of peace-building intiatives. This comment shall not be taken as a retraction of my hardline stance on the Ethiopian occupiers. -
^Look how mischivious you are. I am not talking about him or anyone for that matter. Adigaa dabshidaya ayaan ku leeyahay. I know you understood it. But still thought I do the formality of putting up a disclaimer.
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^^Whatever you say. On the Sheikh and his latest stance, I think I have given my opinion in more than one occassion. Repeating is of no use. Indeed, a poem where you are mentioned sums up my position on this issue. You may go and see in the poetry section (with the title Xiinfanin). Also, one think I will request from you is to clearly highlight where you agree in either the issues we debate or the method of my argument; and where you don't. Of late, I only see that you throw curse like general statements on how it is difficult to discuss with me. That won't solve our problem.
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^ That e-shigshig is the result of malfunctioning mouses and my attempt to edit an earlier reply. I am not sure if I remember what Nuune is talking about though. Nuune nin fiican baad tahay. Sawirka laakiin inaga badal walaal. Waa ku wareeraa walaahi. Miyaadan daalaynin. MMA, couriously, I talk close to Shigshig. A bit too fast for words. That is in the real world. Maybe that has also affected my writing.
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^ That e-shigshig is the result of malfunctioning mouses and my attempt to edit an earlier reply. I am not sure if I remember what Nuune is talking about though. MMA, couriously, I talk close to Shigshig. A bit too fast for words. That is in the real world. Maybe that has also affected my writing.
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^ Waxba ha ii dardaar walinin. Ninmankaad sheegayso qudbado siyaasadeed mooye gabay laguma sheegin. Lafahoodan tirsaday. Laakiin intay tolka ku dhex dhacaan, waxoogaa way la iman karaan meeshan. I know Las Caanood is the closest place to go for help.
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^ On another thread, wax aan u kala garan waayay Baroor iyo qasiidadii haweenka ee "cadceedii wataa dhacdoo la soo celin maayo ee, nin uu casar dhaafay baan cadaab uga yaabayee" ayuu soo tuuray. No ammuntion left, I guess. To your utter chagrin. Ileen in la i tuumaad u sacabo tumaysee!
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Layzie G. Waah waah!!Waxaa saa Jacayl ah!! If you like the Sheikh that much, waa u sheegaynaa. No big deal. You don't need to show your love for him by stepping on the feet of others. Like the poor Abtigiis. This reminds me of one thing. Back in those youthful days, there was a famous trick girls used to attract our attention.[The noble girls of those days - ma'aha daydayga imika jooga]. While you stroll in front of their houses, if an unfortunate child of the Xaafada is walking around, they jump and give the unsuspecting minor a hot Dharbaaxo ; followed by "Yaa ku yidhi dariiqa ku ciyaar? He was almost hit by a car, bal eega". In all honesty, a car might not have passed through that alley for over a decade. It is all to ensure you hear the crescendo and glance back. And if she is OK (muuqaalka), perhaps wave a hand at her!! The relevance of the fabricated dream to this memory can not be missed. Layzie, I invite you Xareedo Ismaaciil Duniyo's "SHEEKHAYGA CAASHAQA HA SHEEG SHEEGIN ADIGUYE...." Waan daayaay Sheekha YAA!!!
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Hunguri Ma Aware iyo Koore ayaad jeedaa?? Mise waad ka sii shisheysaa?
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XIINFANIIN: Marmarsiiyo oday uun ka dhigtay maan maslaxo doonno! Theme I Ducco iyo Taxaliil iyo Quraan hadaan duudka laga saarin Ma dabiibmo ruuxii dardaran daa'im abidkiiye Miitaalka hadalkaa waxaan meeshan ugu sheegi Marmarsiiyo oday uun ka dhigtay maan maslaxo doonno Oo aan macnayneyn hadana muskii laga wareegaayay Mucjiso iyo layaab waxaa ah oon maanku qabanneynin 'Maamuuska' loo hayoo midkaa tuuri madfaciisa ee kii mujaahidka mahadiyeyna marnaba loo quudhin Magacooyin ciidaa ka badan mid uunse aan sheegi Waa midaa ii dhashee 'Cyber-jihadist' maaxday!!! Theme II Dhalaan dooxata Meles soo dirsaday inaan murqaha goyno Oo aan Tigre iyo duligay wataan diloon dalka xoreeyno Dagaal iyo hadii uu ka dhashay doodo diga weyni Kuu daayay sheekhaaga nabadiisa iyo dabawareegeeda Dan uga baxay Shariifkaa nasteexiisa iyo kooxa kala sooca Ee Xiinoow dariiqayga ka bax daw hadaad garani Theme III Marse hadii aan dhugtay oo ka dhargay daacad nimadaada Damiirkaagu inuu saafi yahay waan arkaa dood yaqaan yahowe Balse duulaanka aad igu wadaa yaa dabbaro dheere Daji oo bal darris inuu wuxuun dibadda kaa yaalo Oo dood-ficleedku yay ku galin dhufays daalim dhex hilaabtay Docdood yay ku dhigin darajo iyo afkaar dad aan kula wadaagaynin Dowga ka caddee hadii aad tidhaa oo tanna ka doodo DUKE iyo EMPEROR iyo waxaan dhaw ka siin dhowr kaloon garane!! Waa markaan is dhoohaansho een BASHI kor u dhaafoo After all, I can only pick one fight at a time. cautionary Note: No one is allowed to critique a poem of a neophyte!! Deel-qaaf baa kujira lama odhan karoo. Wa mamnuuc!! This poem is cleared by such luminaries as Hadrawi and Singub (waa kaftan).
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^Ameen! Ilaahay janadii ka sawaabiyo waxan buraanburka, batarka, baroorta iyo qasiidadii haweenkee ee odhan jirtay "cadceedii wataa dhacdoo la soo celin maaya ee,...." aan loo kala garan eed is daba dhigtay. Awoowe, meel xun bay kaa gaadhaye iga raali ahow. Anigaa gardaran. But you haven't showed why the afareey was a homicide. You merely chanted a decree of its death! Ngonge Enlighten as walaal on the alternative we seem to have failed to see. You are welcome. Like the Roman emperors, don't rejoice the cat fight.
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^ War warba isuma haysidee gabayga laguu tiriyay akhri. Go to Daabkii Masaarta thread. Waxoogaa baad naga maqnayd ma nap baad ka soo tuurtay. Laguu fadhiyi mayoo haddaa ee waa inaan cararoo. Wakii xogsadee lahaa kolkol buu geer gashadaayee!!
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Originally posted by Kool_Kat: ...Ilaa shalaa ordeysee, bal stop running, enjoy Leona Lewis...For now... Waa runtaa waa noogayba, walaashay. Thanks for being considerate!
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^ I saw bobby the dog, the other day. Remember you showed it to me. It was scary.
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^ It is so hard to imagine dedicated fans of Leona Lewis would be so belligerent! I think ducking for cover is not an option anymore and I need to take the bull by the horn. But again, that will compromise my firm belief in gender equality and respect. So, you see, viewed from that angle, to be in the Women's section is not to step into the perch of a church. I have the right to be here, afterall. Adiguu laakiin you don't spare refugees xataa soo ma aha!!
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^ Waan hurdayaa? Wiirsi 2008 baad wadaa. Waa caadi xaaladu saaxib. I just wanted you humour yesterday. I am enjoying it now. No loss.
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^ My instincts are validated. The cannon is fired. Let me run for cover!!
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^ The real heavy weights have arrived. Let me take a deserved break. ahaah!!