Originally posted by Dhulqarnayn -alSumaale: quote:Originally posted by Kool_Kat: quote: Originally posted by Dhulqarnayn -alSumaale: I wanted to laugh at the name Mississauga thinking it's Jaceylbaro's abused form of Mississippi but it really exists lol Heeeeey, leave my city alone... I'm serious before this topic i never knew a city in the world existed with the name missisausage (j/k) I agree with Puja this group of individuals at the house should be held accountable aswell unless they arrived after the incident. Daa'uud, Mississauga -- pronounced as Misisaaga -- is Koronto's little sister city, literally next door with some 700,000 people, many of them South Asians.

I think the person who asked meant or confused about the forehead. She asked in a wrong way, I guess.

Taloow baasaboorkee uu ku socdaa? Cagaarkii lee iga dheh.

Why do Soomaali people all look so similar? first of all i need to say that im not at all racist, but to me all somali people look very similar. Do somali people think that british/ americans all look similar? I guess it must be something to do with genetics or something- but how come you cant tell which country other african people come from? no smart as s answers please, thanks for your answers in advance. Your answers are needed here.

Originally posted by Caamir: Blessed Our difference is that I am a civic nationalist where as you sound like an ethnic nationalist. I conceive of our nation-state and its membership in and loyalty to it in terms of citizenship, common law, (discount Somali’s break down) and political participation, whereas you conceive of our nation-state’s membership and loyalty to it in terms of lineage and nomadic culture. Hence I am not driven by a political desire to impress ethnically defined interests on the agenda of the Somali state, and in the process deprive our Somali people of their right to political participation and citizenship. It is beautiful to achieve the collective aspiration and unity of our entire Somali Speaking community, but that is a reckless adventure and it has been a recipe for extremism, exclusiveness, secessionism, and last but but least a possible international anarchy. You are wrong and contradicting the constitution of 1960, approved by the vast majority of Soomaalis in a referendum. Yes, there are two sets of Soomaalis: The Soomaali who is both ethnically Soomaali as well as a Soomaali by nationality and those who are not ethnically Soomaali, but are Soomaali by nationality. "Soomaali Bantu" [a term I don't agree with] community is the latter. To those who are ethnically Soomaali, but live the occupied and neglected Soomaali Galbeed or NFD, they are automatically Soomaali by nationality as well, as per set by by that constitution of 1960. That is why many residents of Gaarisa, Mandheera and Wajeer, as well as those who were born in Jigjiga, Diradhabe and Qabridahare travelled around the world carrying Soomaali passports, obtained in Muqdisho no questions asked. You naively consider Soomaali Galbeed to be part of "Itoobiya." It is not. It is occupied, regardless how long or decades it is. Reer NFD as well, which never was part of so-called Ingiriis isku kab kabay Kenya in colonial times. As the very name itself suggests, it was a remote frontier post, controlled separately from other lands that became later part of Kenya. The residents of this region also approved overwhelmingly to be part and parcel of Soomaaliya. Gumeysidoon Ingiriis refused to recognize.

It is a wholly different matter, though, being mapping who controls what of some far-flung hamlets and villages in Soomaaliya. What you coloured today will not be there in days or weeks, let alone in months or years. Soomaaliya and its regions, including towns, is in a continuous stage of endless evolutionary cycle. Nothing lasts and settled unless a true central government rules. What you are attempting should be commended for informing the uninformed about the political reality on the ground; however, it is a waste of time since it will change in a few months.

What is with you and maps? Does little dusty villages and towns in Soomaaliya changing hands -- albeit temporarily since there is no permanent, save a few towns -- fascinate you? What if you started mapping Soomaaliya and its regions monthly since 1991? Waaba ku dhufan lahayd by now.

maxaa rabtay, sida reer abtigey inaa ku dhahaa 'waxaa itiriba lagu yiri'...lol Reer abtigaa yaa waaye? Calibeesteen miyaa mise Iskiimooskii?

Originally posted by Suad: MMA....** Hooba naar galaasa, bartaa ay la aragnee, tiimbooy! ** Ariikanh way la fadaayey ini adeh maay ing abtuk teh. Inaay, mee eraase? Ar dooga si feylana in goroda kiinjeeda, ee intee ki baratay? Heer Arlaadi etee? Ki salaami, ha dhawoow.

Huuwaaya, huuwaa Huuwa caddeeya, huuwa Habartaa ma joogto Kal iyo koonfur aaday Kabaheedee qaadatay Soo socotaayaa ma'ogi Sii socotaayaa ma'ogi Huuwaaya, huuwaa Huuwa caddeeya, huuwa Maxaa malaayiin ciyaal Soomaaliyeed lagu seexiye.

Their teasing hearteaseness smiles is worth just anything you can think. Thoroughly beautiful Soomaali children in Jabuuti, though as sad as their predicatement and environment around them looks, including the discernible poverty. Still biyuudhiful and cute, especially at dhoolacaddeyntooda, their tender smiles just forces you to smile back. --------- More

Originally posted by Red Sea: ^Whoaah Modesty.. Prayers, Eid lunch. Take the kids to somewhere fun maybe to mall of America' rides or something. And then come back home to have family dinner. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Kids aa? Shimee la guursaday, ukun camal loo dhalay, then saas u koreen? Aah, I got it -- nephews iyo nieces iska dheh nooh.

Tanaa! Afkii la galaba wey soo galee. Jinooleey iga dheh. Waa isdhiibay.

Even the persistent droughts and famine that gripped the country did not extinguish traditional sense of Somali community, he said. When he was 7 years old and his father's entire herd was wiped out in the 1974 drought of 1974, he recalled, his neighbors insisted he be evacuated on a plane before them. "My feet never touched the ground. People carried me on and off the plane because back then, people really cared for each other," he said. "Today there is so much clan hatred nobody cares for anyone." Waa kaasaa Soomaalinimadii waagaas jirtay. Abaartii Dabadheer ka hadlaayaa, see iskugu gurmadeen Soomaalida. Eebba ha idmo, Soomaalinimo will return.

Waxaas Jarmal ma'ahee waa Ruush, maraxyahee sankaas kuusan taageyso afka Ruushka haku ciyaarin. Что вы знаете о России!! [Cursing in Russian. ] Shigshigoow is my middle name, by the way.

Muxuu dhahay speakerkeyga hadal kama soo socdee? Some points soo kooba, if you can folks.

wee, meey ki dhiiyi posts kaleeto? Wah, wah, wah. Caawa waala hadlayaa. Inaay, iinsheeg ay ki baray dooga? Si feyla in gorodee. Wee, mee ki oga walaagii ki dhiiyi other posts. Surwaalkeey in uu gaabanyahay yaa ku tusiye hee. NB - Ani califalaax gaaban gishtaa, you-know-what-I-mean.

Aawey kuusha, kusoo dar hee liiska kale jaamacyaasha. Waa sugeynaa. Kuwa kale dhiman, sida faaraxyada fadhi ku dirirka iyo surwaalgaabka, I mean the real surwaalgaab.

Kamoon, hala isdhaamo yaaqeey. ------------- About this topic, they also did this to other masaajido. You can view sawirada on Dayniile [here through google, first link on the top] site sidee Xabashi u gishay xaafadahee xoogga ku heysteen the last few weeks. Waxba ma dhaafin, walaa meel caafimaad, xarun shirkad, masaajid, guri shaqsi, baqaar, tabakaayo, ... Fartooda qaabka darneyd iyo calankooda baas darbiyada igu qoreen xataa, kuna rinjiyeeye. Shuud.

You reminded me, Daa'uud Waraaqle, about this Soomaali guy who once saw me just pressing and playing around with some piano keys. He asked if aan aqaano. You bet ku iri and fake lines qabac qabac ah u garaacay. Iska reer baadiye iska ahaa, so I think he might have believed that crap on that night.

Wafdi ka socda Isbaheysiga Dibuxoreynta Soomaaliya oo Mareykanka kula kulmay Xildhibaanno ka tirsan Dowladda Mareykanka [Not the lapel pin miniature flag on Rep. (D) Keith Ellison; he is appreciating Soomaalis who voted him in droves.] Wafdi ka socda Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya ayaa waxay booqasho ku tageen Dalka Mareykanka, halkaasi oo ay kulamo kula qaateen Xildhibaano ka tirsan labada Aqal ee Mareykanka oo kala ah Donald Bayne, Keith Ellison, Maxine Waters, Norm Coleman, Senator Amy Klobuchar iyo Senator Mark Dayton iyo madax sare oo ka tirsan xafiiska Arrimaha Dibadda ee dalka Maraykanka (State Department). Intii ay socdeen kulamada labada dhinac dhexmaray ayay xubnaha ka socday Isbaheysiga Dib-u-xoreynta Soomaaliya waxay u gudbiyeen Xildhibaanada Mareykanka Dukuminti maqal iyo muuqaal ah, kaasi oo ku saabsan xaaladda uu haatan ku sugan yahay Dalka Soomaaliya, gaar ahaan dhibaatada ka taagan Caasimadda Soomaaliya ee Muqdisho. “Dhamaan kullamada ay la yeesheen madaxdaas waxay u gudbiyeen dekumenti MAQAL IYO MUUQAAL ah oo la xiriira xasuuqa loo gaystay Ummadda Soomaaliyeed, gaar ahaan dadka laga barakiciyey guryahoodii iyo bililiqada loo gaystay hantidii shacabka oo laga dhigay wax la bur buriyey iyo wax loo rartay suuqyada Addis Abbaba” ayaa lagu yiri Warsaxaafadeed uu soo saaray Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya. Xubnaha ka socday Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya oo kala ah Prof. C/raxmaan Xaaji Aadan (Ibbi) oo ah Kaaliyaha Guddoomiyaha Isbaheysiga iyo Drs. Fowsiyo Maxamed Shiikh oo ah Xoghayaha Xuquuqul Insaanka iyo Danbiyada Dagaalka ayaa sidoo kale mas’uuliyiintii ay la kulmeen waxay kala hadleen sidii ay Dowladda Mareykanka gacan uga geysan lahayd in Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka ay ka baxaan Dalka Soomaaliya. “Madaxdii ay la kulmeen oo dhan waxay aad uga xumaadeen xasuuqa waxashinimada ah ee lagu hayo Ummadda Soomaaliyeed, gaar ahaan markey arkeen sawirrada dadka lagu laayay dagaallada sida Haweeneydii medka ahayd ee la arkay iyadoo uu nuugayo canugeeda oo labo bilood jir ahaa” ayaa mar kale lagu yiri Warsaxaafadeedka uu soo saaray Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya, kaasi oo uu HOL soo gaarsiiyay Saleebaan Colaad Rooble oo ah Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Warfaafinta iyo Wacyi-galinta Isbahaysiga Dib-u-xoreynta Soomaaliya. Warsaxaafadeedkan ayaa sidoo kale lagus heegay in xubnaha labada Aqal ay sheegeen in ay dowladda Ethiopia sharci darro ku soo gashay Soomaaliya, ayna tahay wax maanta lala yaabo in qarniga 21aad ay dowlad Afrikaan ah ay ku duusha dowlad kale oo dariskeeda ah, isla markaana ay xasuuq ka geysato. Ugu dambeyntiina, Masuuliyiinta ka socotay Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Soomaaliya ayaa sidoo kale waxay kulan la qaateen Garyaqaanno ku xeel dheer arrimaha Xuuqul-Insaanka, kuwaasi oo ay u gudbiyeen Gal ay ku qoran yihiin Dad loo heysto in ay Xasuuq ka geysteen dalka Soomaaliya. ______________ War warbaahineed soo saaray Saleebaan Colaad Rooble, Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Warfaafinta iyo Wacyigelinta ee Isbahaysiga Dibuxoreynta Soomaaliya Email: suleimanolad@gmail.com

Q : People all over the world are being brainwashed with the assumption that Somalia is a failed state; you as Somali, do you consider this interpretation accurate or not? Are the Somalis the sole responsible for the 16 years instable situation or there has been foreign involvement too? Abdillahi Ahmed : This is not just mere propaganda; much more, it is: A well orchestrated plan intended to trigger the destruction of the Somali State. An imperialist commitment aimed at distracting Somalis from their natural, patriotic target, i.e. the institutional resurrection of their State, the return of Law and Civil Order A clearly colonial and most determined commitment aimed at disrupting Somalis’ regular livelihood. As such, it consists in a deliberate effort to prevent mutual understanding among Somalis, thwart any Somali attempt for unity, reconciliation and respectably and commonly shared nationhood. A deliberate effort to spread confusion, and deliberately use it in order to create an illusive, non-existing phenomenon called “Terrorism” that would supposedly legalize intervention in, and occupation of, Somalia. An intentional pseudo-reconciliation (as in Kenya 2004), falsely pretended to help Somalis, which in fact contributes to Somalis’ misleading. A premeditated orchestration of fake – events prearranged to fail, and thus spread despair and further discord A false interpretation of facts and factoids that involves putting the blame on the Somalis exclusively An unreasonable rejection to recognize the only true reconciliation - without any outside interfering – which was held at Arta, Djibouti, whereby the Somalis were able to form a government, but the UN, EU, US, Ethiopia, and Kenya did not recognize. Q : Many people all over the world believe that the Somalis turned out to be a nation of Islamists and fanatics; how do you evaluate this? Abdillahi Ahmed : That is what western media want others to believe in order to cover up their hidden agendas. Somalis are 100% Muslims, who like to live the way of their forefathers. The Somalis were never known to be fanatics, never forced their beliefs on others. If we were what others are falsely propagating, today only Muslims would populate the whole region. Q : In fact, there are some Somali Islamists; but today they are few, dispersed and have no impact on the Somali Liberation War. But where are they? Is Islamic extremism limited in the Somali South? Or one can find Islamic extremist groups in Puntland? In Somaliland? Abdillahi Ahmed : Somali Muslims are fed up of Western conspiracies and unjust provocations. Islamists and nationalists both have been deliberately smeared by fanatics so that foreigners invade our country and we never live in peace. If there are fanatics in the Horn, it is due to American political ignorance. The outcome is very clear as we Somalis believe truth will prevail, and tribes and nations will live under the flag of Justice. Q : Are there pro-Western Somalis? Abdillahi Ahmed : Yes, but their number is shrinking very rapidly. Q : What is the weight of the Somali Diaspora? In numbers and in impact on the political decision making? Would you name the major centers of Somali Diaspora concentration? Abdillahi Ahmed : It really needs deep and thorough study to answer in detail. Generally speaking, I would say the great centers of Somali Diaspora are London, England, Minneapolis, US, and Toronto, Canada. Q : To what extent are you happy with the American foreign policy as regards Somalia? Abdillahi Ahmed : It is colossal failure, a "bricolage", a do-it-yourself approach, and we cannot be happy with a great nation like the US acting as a wildcat. Q : To what extent are you happy with European countries', mainly England's and Italy's, foreign policy as regards Somalia? Abdillahi Ahmed : The Europeans, in their general policies, act more maturely than the Americans, but when it comes to the nations you mention their policy reminds me the classical ‘wait and see’ attitude; this makes me think of the French proverb ‘qui se tait, consent‘ (whoever keeps silent agrees). Q : To what extent are you happy with African countries' attitude towards, and interest in, Somalia? How do you assess the foreign policy of South Africa, Sudan, Egypt, Morocco, Nigeria and Eritrea more particularly? Abdillahi Ahmed : For the time being, AU is a phantom organization run by Ethiopia. AU agreed whatever IGAD proposes without any consideration of the possible outcome. AU just gave blank check to Abyssinian policy toward Somalia. Some African countries are now discovering Abyssinians’ hidden agenda for Somalia, and in the process they also start realizing that Abyssinians were always against the interest of Africa. As a matter of fact, we thank Eritrea for standing on our side in this difficult moment. Q : To what extent are you happy with the Arabic speaking countries' foreign policy in the case of Somalia? Abdillahi Ahmed : Somalis feel deep sorrow for the lack of Arab support, and I find this occasion propitious to remind Arabic speaking countries’ diplomats that Somalia never kept silent when their interests were at stake. In a forthcoming article, we will publish Mr. Abdillahi Ahmed’s last part of interview.

World Somali Congress Vice-President Abdillahi Ahmed: No to premeditated destruction of Somalia American Chronicle December 3, 2007 I n a first article Peace and Unity in Somalia – One Way Ticket to Africa’s Future , we presented the Mission and the Principles of the World Somali Congress, as a preamble to the first part of the interview we had with Mr. Abdillahi Ahmed, their Vice President. In the present article, we publish the second part of the tripartite interview. Interview with Mr. Abdillahi Ahmed, Vice President of the World Somali Congress – Part II Question : In May 1991, Somaliland declared its independence; what were the links of the Somaliland leadership with the Amhara Abyssinian communist tyranny of Haile Mengistu? And what are their links with the Tigray Abyssinian pseudo-republican tyranny of Meles Zenawi? Abdillahi Ahmed : This was a colonial legacy and the many mistakes made before and after the independence. Bitterness and lack of understanding of the History of Horn of Africa drove some Somali tribe to blindly help our archenemy, thus becoming the means for the destruction of the Somali state. The sole purpose of the current invasion that has been supported by the West was to occupy the entire country; however, due to miscalculations involved, the disintegration of Abyssinia is near. Q : To what extent is the Somaliland regime representative, expressing with its political choices and secessionist attitude the wishes of the majority of the Somalis included in that enclave? Abdillahi Ahmed : Most of the people in these regions are captives of the situation. They have been living in a state of hope for recognition, but by now they came to know that in reality a group of selfish thugs have tricked them for long. These rulers are just surrogates for their master tyrant Meles Zenawi. Q : Are there ethnic, linguistic, religious, tribal groups in Somaliland that are oppressed by the current Somaliland 'president' Rayaale? Abdillahi Ahmed : No, Somalis are 100% Sunni Muslims, Shaffie, with one language (involving different dialects) Q : What is your idea about the Kulmiye party, and the Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity? Abdillahi Ahmed : We believe that both, Kulmiye party and the Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU) represent genuine and positive political expressions of patriotic Somalis in the northern part of the country that is currently ruled by Somaliland. Q : What is at the epicenter of the present problems of Somalia? Abdillahi Ahmed : US-‘Ethiopian’ occupation is the focus of evildoing against Somalia; it is a vicious plan geared to cause divisions among people, Civil War, starvation in great numbers, ceaseless killings, raping, crimes of all sorts at an incredible scale. [Continues.]

His name and surname are typical Soomaali His tri-origin in the Horn is typical for a Soomaali His forehead is typical Soomaali but is he really a Soomaali? But his dhagadhago is not. Anyway, good for him wuxuu yahayba.