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  1. http://www.somalilandtimes.net/2003/134/13402.shtml
  2. The funny thing about the joke was in fact that it wasn’t funny at all.
  3. Unforeseen Dangers At the Somali Peace Talks Unforeseen Dangers At the Somali Peace Talks Abdikadir Mohammed Nairobi The Somali peace talks at Mbagathi are in their final stage and they will result, it is hoped, in the formation of a government that will bring the elusive peace and justice to the people of Somalia. However, the talks, in the present form, have serious flaws, one of them being the inclusion of a delegation of people purportedly representing the people of the Republic of Somaliland. This delegation is composed of people who have no standing in Somaliland and some are literally fugitives in their own country. This fact is known to most observers in the peace talks and to both the Inter Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) Steering committee and the IGAD council of ministers. The selection of some of these people to the transitional Somali parliament leaves most observers with more questions than answers. The main question that begs to be answered is; why did the IGAD steering committee and the council of ministers allow the Somali peace talk delegates to include people who claim to represent the people of Somaliland while it is very clear to everyone that they do not? Peace talks that are based on fraud and lies are expected to produce not peace but another round of war and the resultant destruction. The way forward for the peace talks facilitators would have been first to secure peace for the people of Somalia. This would entail holding peace talks between the clans of Somalia and when peace is achieved and an all inclusive government established, then and only then can talks be arranged between the governments of Somaliland and Somalia. This is the only way a just and agreeable peace may be possible. This position taken by the government and the people is greatly undermined by the inclusion into the peace talks of the delegates purporting to represent the people of Somaliland. A brief overview of the history of Somaliland would suffice in helping one understand the position taken by people of Somaliland on the peace talks in Nairobi. The Republic of Somaliland is the former British protectorate and it borders Djibouti to the North West, Ethiopia to west and south and the Republic of Somalia to the east. It has a population of about 3.5 million people. This country got its independence from Britain on 26 June 1961. It was recognised by 34 countries right after independence. In the spirit of pan Somalism, the independent Republic of Somaliland agreed to form a union with the then newly independent Italian Somaliland to form The Somali Republic State. The rest is history. On May 18, 1991 the people of Somaliland in a national conference held in Burao decided to dissolve the union between Somaliland and Somalia. Somaliland then reverted to the state of fully sovereign and independent Republic. Its president is Dahir Riyale. What happened in Burao in the view of the people of Somaliland does not amount to secession but a dissolution of a union between the two formerly independent countries. The Republic of Somaliland had existed as a recognized independent country before Republic of Somalia got its independence. The assertion that Somaliland is seceding from Somalia is as unfounded and baseless as is to assert that Gambia seceded from Senegal when the sene-gambia union was dissolved. There are many instances in recent history of countries uniting and going their separate ways when it becomes clear that the union they have formed is not in the interest of their people and their country. Egypt and Syria are good examples of this. The case of Somaliland and Somalia is not different. The existence of Republic of Somaliland does not contravene the African Union charter particularly the inviolability of colonial borders as Somaliland occupies the territory of the former British protectorate. It has not taken nor claimed an inch from the territory of the Republic of Somalia nor of the neighboring countries. The people of Somaliland held a referendum in the year 2001 and about 98% of the voters voted for the independence for Somaliland. In 2003, the people of Somaliland went to the polls again to elect the head of state in an election that was free and fair according to both local and international observers. Somaliland has had peace for most of the years Somalia had been lawless. The Republic of Somaliland exists both as a state and as a government; it has a President who is the head of state, a parliament, a standing army and a booming economy. Further, the country is a very safe place to work and live in. This can be noted from the fact that women freely sell gold and people run currency exchange in open markets without fear of being robbed or their wares looted. Therefore not recognizing it or overlooking it would not negate the fact of its existence. It might be more prudent for the regional governments to open communication channels and to follow the example of the South Africa government in establishing a liaison office. The recent invitation of Somaliland to a conference in Nanyuki for regional governments is a good first step towards that direction. The Mbagathi peace talks offer a historical opportunity to bring peace, stability and prosperity for the greater Horn of Africa countries. To achieve this, the IGAD facilitation committee must be honest, just and open minded and should heed the wishes and aspiration of the people of both Somaliland and Somalia. The policy of completely ignoring the wishes and aspiration of the people of Somaliland will result in more instability and war in both Somaliland and Somalia. That is not in the interest of the countries in IGAD. Relevant Links East Africa Peacekeeping and Conflict Resolution Kenya Somalia It is never too late to correct mistakes done in these peace talks. People purporting to represent people of Somaliland must be expelled from the peace talks and be allowed to live in the luxury of their self-imposed exile in Europe, Gulf Arab countries and America. If this is not done in time then this will no longer be peace talks. It will be war talks. The talks that fueled the next round of war. 2004-09-29 Source: The East African Standard
  4. Hundreds missing after storms in Somaliland September 27 2004 at 05:56PM Hargeisa - Torrential rains in Somalia's breakaway enclave, Somaliland, have washed away hundreds of huts, with up to 350 nomadic families believed drowned or missing, a regional governor said. Governor Ali Abdi Hurre of Sanaag, the largest region in Somaliland, said 3 600 animals including sheep, camels and donkeys were thought to have drowned over several days of heavy rain on the Siradlei mountains in northern Somalia. "Shelter has been given to those affected in their own areas and a government delegation will visit the areas affected by the stormy rain to assess the situation," he told a news conference late on Sunday. Local businessmen said most of the roads linking the Siradlei mountains to coastal villages and towns were impassable because of flooding and fallen rocks. Sanaag, in the north of war-ravaged Somalia, has suffered three straight years of drought. Hurre said it was difficult to give a precise death toll since there was little news from the remote areas in the mountains where the storms were heaviest. Somaliland, which makes up the northwest of Somalia, declared independence from the rest of the Horn of Africa country in 1991, but is not internationally recognised.
  5. Fyr

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    Here is the video link for theâ€Throw The Jew Down The Well†song. Hilarious song
  6. Originally posted by Kenya: Somalialand what are u u want a country that is no country Somalia is one and Puntland is part of it but u are not You’re right we aren’t part of Somalia anymore.
  7. Somalia's "peace process" in final round afrol News, 17 September - The "parliament of Somalia", which was founded by Somali warlords in Kenya last month after two years of negotiating, is soon to elect an all-Somali President and return to Mogadishu to take power. As mighty warlords keep on fighting in south Somalia and the question of Somaliland remains disputed, the new rulers may however face the same fate as the Transitional National Government that was formed in Djibouti in 2000. Next week, the 275 Somali parliamentarians still gathered outside the Kenyan capital are expected to elect a President; Somalia's first central leader since the 1991 fall of Dictator Mohammed Siad Barre. As soon as the presidential appointment is done with, the Kenyan hosts may finally open their hotels to paying guests after the two-year Somali peace conference. The new political leadership of Somalia is to return to Mogadishu. The presidential vote however will not be easy as there are some 60 Somali presidential candidates. Most of them have a trouble past as warlords, fraction leaders and human rights violators. The candidates include Hussein Farah Aideed, son of warlord Mohammed Farah Aideed, who leads a 15,000 strong militia controlling central and southern parts of Mogadishu. Mr Aideed holds great responsibility for the transitional government's failure to take control of the country. Another prominent candidate with a big chance of being elected is Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf, the current of leader of the autonomous Puntland region in north-east Somalia. Colonel Yusuf, a long-lasting foe of Mr Aideed, is accused of several political murders, fierce guerrilla warfare and of using large amount to buy parliamentary votes for him while Puntland residents are suffering from drought and hunger. Whoever is elected Somali President will have to trust in Mr Aideed, who is in military control of the parts of Mogadishu where the government is to reside. If Mr Aideed is elected President, his government rapidly may fall into the same trap as the transitional government formed in 2000; it only controlled the small part of Mogadishu where it was installed. Warfare in Somalia will not automatically end with a new government uniting the country's main warlords. More than 20 warlords are still operating private armies that are frequently involved in clashes with other warlords that take part in the peace process. In addition, several warlords did not take part in the 22 August inauguration of the new Somali parliament. The main warlord outside the Kenyan peace process is Mohammed Hersi, commonly known as General Morgan. This week, he launched a major offensive against southern Somalia's major port, Kismayo, the country's third largest city. Only today, General Morgan is reported to have given up the attack after the Jubba Valley Alliance - a regional armed group in control of Kismayo - had gained the upper hand. The upcoming Somali government will in any case face large pockets of warlord-held territories within Somalia. The fragile alliance of clan leaders and other armed groups now united in the Somali parliament further has no guarantee of sticking together for a long time. It is not probable that warlords will let government take military control over their areas. Finally, there remains the problem of the breakaway republic of Somaliland; a former British colony that unilaterally broke the 1960 union with former Italian Somalia after the 1991 fall of President Barre. Somaliland, which yet has to be recognised by any country, refused to participate in the Kenya talks as its does not consider itself party to the conflict. The peace talks' hosts thus appointed their own "representative" for what they call "north-west Somalia". The future Somali government, therefore, is to represent also Somaliland internationally, to the great frustration of Somalilanders. Somaliland in international forums now officially becomes an internal Somali issue. A military conflict between Mogadishu and Hargeisa cannot be ruled out if the new Somali rulers aim at subduing Somaliland. There is still a long way to peace in Somalia. By staff writer © afrol News
  8. Originally posted by Suldaanka: H/A This must be your "Ciyaala xaafadka" area... but like someone from the North, we need some visual aids like a Map. Kasungo, Buaale, Xaliimo Modoobey...we are lost here.
  9. I don't think this is bullshit If you were fair you would wait before making such assumption. Please, don’t contradict yourself Mr. WD
  10. Xarunta Puntlandpost,Boosaaso Please give us a Somaliland source.
  11. SA Recognises Saharawi news24.com — --- — 15 September, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SA recognises Saharawi 15/09/2004 16:58 - (SA) Cape Town - South Africa has decided to officially recognise the Saharawi Arab Democratic Republic with immediate effect, said Foreign Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma on Wednesday. Briefing the media at parliament, she said South Africa and the people of western Sahara had a long history of solidarity, mutual assistance and co-operation in their struggle for freedom and dignity. In view of this South Africa and the Saharawi Republic had decided to strengthen and reinforce their "brotherly ties". Edited by Iaine Harper
  12. LooL typical chinese men, allways take stuff literally
  13. Originally posted by Farxan: "Indian soldiers deployed there as UN peacekeepers." i would say it just an incompetent reporter, I Concur
  14. Cargo ship sinks off India From correspondents in Ahmedabad August 29, 2004 TWENTY sailors were missing today after a cargo ship sank off India's west coast, coastguard officials said. A search was called off at nightfall after the Indian ship, carrying rice for Somalia, went down 20km off the western Indian port town of Jakhau. "We sent out a helicopter, five boats and one of our ships to rescue the crew members, but the sailors could not be traced by dusk," coastguard spokesman S B Venketesway said, adding that a fresh search would be launched tomorrow. It was not immediately known whether the rice was meant for the civilian population of drought-hit Somalia or Indian soldiers deployed there as UN peacekeepers. Can someone explaine this?