Greece's Papandreou in crisis talks over bailout revolt Greece's government is holding an emergency meeting following a day of turmoil triggered by PM George Papandreou's announcement of a referendum on the proposed EU bailout. One MP from the governing Pasok party has resigned, cutting Mr Papandreou's parliament majority to two. Six other leading party members have called on him to resign. US and European markets, calmed by last week's EU bailout plan, have fallen sharply since the announcement. The Greek government also faces a crucial confidence vote in parliament on Friday. News of the referendum even took Greece's Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos by surprise, Greek media reported. As the latest crisis unfolded, it was announced that Mr Papandreou would meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy along with leaders of the EU, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and eurozone leaders on the fringes of the G20 summit in Cannes on Wednesday. continue

loool@Zack....Forget Somalis, only when you and Xiin agree to sit down and iron out differences will AS be defeated:-)

^AS blows uo thing in Xamar at will and move about it freely but your are ignoring the larger, how does intervention bring lasting solution to Somalia. So far, it has only beneficial to foreigners.

How naive is to think Kenya is there to destroy AS or that it even CAN. Haven't people learned anything from 20yrs of intervention?

Had Recep visited Hargaysa, different picture of Turkey would been painted but this secessionist had point, Somalis can't look to the outside world to solve their problems.

^LooooooooooooooL

Tolkiisa may usoo gurmadaan....? Only if every Somali criminal in Somalia was treated this way.

Naxar Nugaaleed;755041 wrote: Poor Unesco, they were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Now the us will defund them. Here to hoping this retards in the middle east increase theirs. The US boycotted UNESCO in the past only to return because their interests fell on the wayside. How many UN agencies or organizations would the US boycott or defund without hurting their national interest. Isn't interesting the British abstained. I'm looking forward to how they will vote in the Security Council.

Only in Somalia would one welcome his country being bombarded.

I am too lazy to put such elaborate anything. Macawis would do with go shaal...these folks are too serious about it.

^visit to sland ma islaan cajuusa ah kaa dhigtey? This reminds me of megachurces here in the States. Pastor Dollar, yes that's his real name, Jerry Falwell, Rick Warren's Saddle Back Church and 700 Club comes to mind.

The old man has some appetite,

Kenya tanks will not create the so called Jubbaland and no, he's not telling the truth.

Of course, he would say that. He works for the Kenyan Government.

^LoooooooL....nice try, answer the question?

Could you post atleast something new?

looool@mind your own business, yet we can't get you to shut up about Somalia. "Why somalilanders do not support Kenyan Invasion?" Duufaan...do you hear yourself? Why would anyone Somali support their country's invasion?

Kenya might be rethinking their ill-conceived strategy and willing to throw their puppets under the bus. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/59709-Renounce-violence-and-we-ll-negotiate-Kenya-tells-Shabaab

The Zack;754541 wrote: They are right to support this! Way to go! looooooooool...and not too long ago, you were condemning for supporting Ethio. I guess some enemies are more than others.

Nairobi CBD losing Sh100m daily due to Al Shabaab threats By Felix Olick Nairobi city is losing close to Sh100 million daily due to threats of Al Shabaab, the Nairobi Central Business District Association (NCBDA) has said. A joint statement from NCBDA and security firm, SENACA warns that terrorism in Kenya is real and it is becoming a serious threat to businesses. The NCBDA chairman, Mr Timothy Muriuki said a survey carried out by the organisation indicated a sharp decline in business within the city. He said that activity has gone down in malls, bars and supermarkets due to what he termed as ‘uncalled for fear’. "Some malls that used to record close to 1,000 people especially in the evening are now facing tremendous challenges. At times now, they only have 30 people, half of whom are security officers," said Muriuki. Speaking at International Life House in Nairobi on Thursday, he warned that if the situation is not contained thousands of jobs could be lost. Muriuki challenged business owners to install modern surveillance systems. He said the association would not allow Nairobi, which is the economic hub in the region to operate like the lawless Mogadishu and watch as mega businesses collapse. "We are asking the police to concentrate in preventing proliferation of dangerous weapons through borders. However as citizens we must also be vigilant and weed out suspicious people in our midst," he said. SENACA Group Chief Executive Officer Terry Downes said that businesses in the city must take a leading role in containing the prevailing situation urging businesses to train their personnel on security management. Downess said a number of security personnel manning business premises in the city do not have a clue of what a bomb looks like. He said that that the business community should work in partnership with local security providers to ensure coordinated security within the entire CBD. http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000045693&cid=4&ttl=Nairobi%20CBD%20losing%20Sh100m%20daily%20due%20to%20Al%20Shabaab%20threats

“Mujaahidiinta ku sugan Kenya waxaan leeyahay bambooyinkan yar yar ee aad ku caraadineysaan cadawga iska dhaafa, ee u badala wax ka weyn oo ka nixiyo cadawga jug weyna gaar siiya Kenya,” ayuu yiri Abu Mansuur. “Ardaydi uu soo taba baray Saalax Cali Nabhan, iyo kuwi Sheekh Usama, waxaan leeyahay waxaa hada la joogaa dowrkiini ee ciyaara dowrkiina, Kenya waxaan leenahay ogaada waxaa idin gaari doono jab culus,” ayuu intaasi sii raaciyey Abu Mansuur

Abu Mansuur: “Mujaahidiinta waxaan leeyahay Kenya bambooyinka yar yar ka dhaafa ee halagu dhifto jug aad u culus” Sheekh Mukhtaar Roobow (Abu Mansuur) oo ka mid ah saraakiisha ugu sareyso Al Shabab ayaa ugu baaqay dagaalyahanada Shabab in ay Kenya ka jajoojiyaan bambooyinka ay ku tuurayaan, balse ay ugu badalaan jug weyn oo sida uu yiri xanuunjiso. Isaga oo ka hadlayey dibad bax weyn oo loogaga soo horjeeday ciidanka Kenya ee soo galay Soomaaliya oo maanta ka dhacay deegaanka Calamada, ayuu Abu Mansuur ugu baaqay dadka jihaad doonka ah ee ku nool geeska Africa in ay yimaadaan Soomaaliya isla markaana ay kala qeyb galaan dagaal jihaad ah oo uu sheegay in ay la galayaan Kenya. “Mujaahidiinta ku sugan Kenya waxaan leeyahay bambooyinkan yar yar ee aad ku caraadineysaan cadawga iska dhaafa, ee u badala wax ka weyn oo ka nixiyo cadawga jug weyna gaar siiya Kenya,” ayuu yiri Abu Mansuur. Dhanka kale waxa uu sheegay in Kenya ay la galayaan dagaal barakeysan, isaga oo ka codsaday dagaalyahano uu sheegay in ay kasoo jeedaan Kenya oo uu soo tababaray Salax Nabhan iyo Usama Bin Laden in hada lasoo gaaray doorkoodii oo ay shaqadooda qabsadaan sida uu hadalka u dhigay. “Ardaydi uu soo taba baray Saalax Cali Nabhan, iyo kuwi Sheekh Usama, waxaan leeyahay waxaa hada la joogaa dowrkiini ee ciyaara dowrkiina, Kenya waxaan leenahay ogaada waxaa idin gaari doono jab culus,” ayuu intaasi sii raaciyey Abu Mansuur. Dhanka kale Abu Mansuur ayaa sheegay in hadii Kenya ay waxyeelo u geysato Dekada Magaalada Kismaayo ay Al Shabab lacago u doonan doonaan bankiyada dalka Kenya. “Anaga Dekada Kismayo waxaa naga soo galo lacago, hadii Kenyaanka ay wax yeeleyso, ha ogaato Kenya in mujaahidiinta ay lacago kasoo raadsan doonaan Kenya iyaga oo furan doono bankiyada iyo meelaha uu dhaqaalaha kasoo galo,” ayuu yiri. Al Shabab ayaa maanta ka sameeyey deegaanada Calamada, Ceelasha Biyaha, Afgooye, Jowhar, Ceelbuur, Baladweyne iyo Marko iyo deegaano kale oo ay maamulaan banaabax ay kaga soo horjeedaan fara gelinta ciidamada Kenya ee soo galay gudaha Soomaaliya. Horseed Media

“We know that some Al Shaabab people have been staying here and it was a deliberate government decision to allow them to stay here, because we were engaged with them,” said Mr Onyonka. “You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh. Mr Onyonka said the government would confiscate the property of the Al Shaabab members and cautioned against ethnic profiling or the harassment of innocent Kenyans

Mr Onyonka said the operation in Somalia is justified as it would also hopefully result in the elimination of the militant group of Islamist fundamentalists. “If you want to kill the snake and cut the tail it will still die, if you cut the tail it will still die…both ways you win,” he explained. He said the government would have to be careful not to harass Kenyans of Somali origin as it goes about its operations to weed out Al Shaabab in Kenya. Mr Onyonka said the government would confiscate the property of the Al Shaabab members and cautioned against ethnic profiling or the harassment of innocent Kenyans. Kenya has asked the president of the Transitional Federation of Government to clarify a statement this week that suggested the Kenyan military is not welcome in that country. http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Renounce+violence+and+we+will+negotiate++Kenya+tells+Shabaab/-/1056/1262828/-/item/1/-/bc5kkg/-/index.html

By JOHN NGIRACHU jngirachu@ke.nationmedia.com Posted Thursday, October 27 2011 at 17:59 The Kenyan Government is ready to negotiate with the Al Shaabab to halt the operation in Somalia on condition that the militia renounces violence. Foreign Affairs assistant minister Richard Onyonka said Thursday the Somalia militiant group currently under an onslaught by the army has frequently been in touch with the government. “The truth is the Al Shaabab is frequently and constantly in touch with the Kenyan government…If the Al Shaabab would like to discuss and engage with the Kenyan government, our channels are very open,” said Mr Onyonka. Speaking at a press conference at Parliament, Mr Onyonka said the Al Shaabab would first have to renounce violence as means to an end and anything they would want to do in Somalia. “If they don’t renounce violence, the Kenyan government shall not discuss anything with them,” he added, saying the negotiations would also have to be guided by the Djibouti Agreement of 2010 and the Kampala Accord. The Djibouti Agreement was signed between the Transitional Federal Government and the Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia in June 2008. The Kampala Agreement was reached in June and led to the formation of the current TFG headed by Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed. Mr Onyonka said the government would only discuss with the Al Shaabab if there would be guarantees from the group that there would be peace in Somalia, whose conflict has of late posed a threat to the Kenyan economy. He declined to confirm or deny reports by CNN that the Al Shaabab have approached the government for negotiations. Mr Onyonka said the government has also all along known of the presence in Kenya of members of the group linked to the Al Qaeda terror organisation. “We know that some Al Shaabab people have been staying here and it was a deliberate government decision to allow them to stay here, because we were engaged with them,” said Mr Onyonka. He said they had been allowed to stay on because they would not be visiting violence on Kenyans and were at the same time involved in discussions with the government. “The details are available (on) where they own their properties where their monies are…the Kenyan government knows. But even when that is an issue…the position the Kenyan government has had is that we should allow them to have room so we can negotiate with them,” he added. Last week, Internal Security minister Orwa Ojodeh said in Parliament the operation in Somalia would be followed by a swoop in city estates where the Al Shaabab cells and sympathisers are suspected to be. “You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh.