Yep.. the mother of the corrupt 4.5 system is disappointed. It is disappointed that 4.5 is going away and federalism has come.

^You are one big hypocrite who tries to hide against "Somaliness" when you find it suitable. Kenya is a "foreign" entity in your book, when your admiration for Ethiopia is all over the place. You support a Somali admin that is literally breast-fed by Ethiopia, you HAVE NO effing place to advocate against foreigners. Spare us the non-sense, nobody asked for your advice, hence you shouldn't waste your time trying to offer one. The locals are with the Kenyans just like the locals in Xamar are with the Ugandans. Interests rule this world, at this point it is our interest to be on the Kenyan side. If that bothers you, that is your problem, there is nothing you can do. It is funny that you are pretending that you are against the "majority rules" system, when the same effing state you are from is doing the same exact thing! Muraayadda ku eeg gurigaaga intaadan dad kale waanin. And for your info, the clan you think is a minority in Somalia inhabits Jubbada Dhexe, Jubbada Hoose, and Bakool. Your ignorance in anything out of side of bari is obvious and embarrasing. Your hate is noted but hey u dhimo! LOL Che and Adam waan ka dhageysanaa waano laakin qabiileyste is qarinayo? No thanks! We know you, you have been exposed previously. No go back and tell us how your own adders enjoys taking orders from adeer Meles. Ooops Meles is dead.

Who asked for this dude's advice and more importantly who will listen to him. He should focus on the khat sessions in little Djibouti.

Jacphar caalacalka iyo nacamleynta nala dhaaf adeer. Goofkaaga ku ekow. Xabashi baa breast-feeds the admin you so much so support and claim. Kenyans are much better, if you didn't know. Again, waano kaagama baahna kobtan, dadkaaga ka bilow.

Santaaro-Saaxiib;880142 wrote: ^ bal usha dhig LOL Waayahay. Nimankan baan la yaabay - meesha qabiilo badan baa dego it is conmplicated iyo sheekadaa meesha la taagan everyday. Ma gobol Somali oo la wada degin baa jiro? LOL

^You understand Gedo folks and Jubba folks are the same clan, right? Just like Hargeisa folks and Burca folk are..

So now we have Somalilanders talking about Jubbaland and telling us what should and should not happen in Jubba. To educate Xaaji Xunjuf and Carafat, Jubba's, other than being more fertile and prosperous, are no different than any other Somali gobol. For instance, Jubbada Hoose is 5 districts, as we already told you many times on those forum. 3 of them (Xagar, Badhaadhe, and Afmadow) are heavily inhabited by one sub-clan. The same sub-clan partially inhabits the other two districts, Kismayu and Jamaame. Who should administer that state should not be debatable irregardless of how that admin is built, majority always rules. That is a universal rule. Just like Waqooyi Galbeed is ruled by the majority, just like Gobolka Nugaal is ruled by the majority, Jubbada Hoose will be. On another note, please stop the non-sense of "a lot of clans live in that state and catarabaqashka"! Most Somali gobols are inhabited by dozens of clans and majority clans administer them. Nobody questions that as nobody should. Do you have any idea the number of clans that inhabit Hiiraan? Or Shabeellada Dhexe? Do you know that Jareers heavily inhabit in Jowhar? Again stop the non-sense! That being said, minority clans should have their rights respected. When a 1 man 1 vote comes in place, minorities will run for any office in Somalia and be the leaders, if elected. Mar danbe yaanan idinka maqlin Jubbada Hoose waa la wada degaa unless you tell us that Waqooyi Galbeed(Gabiley and co) are also inhabited by multiple clans.

^Well it all depends the school you go to. Try OSU's graduate admission test and tell me it is easy. The author has a point, we are not in Italy. President should know that. Saacid is not a doctor.

Faarax-Brawn;879471 wrote: L0L. So, they dont own anywhere? and i have heard some folks say,and claim that they are indeed "top three largest sub clans of the somalis"- . Nope. Majority of them reside in Hiiraan and you would think they would be made part of the process there. I am not exactly sure why they accept that.

^nope...the same reason they dont own Hiiraan

Federalism won't work because two clanz fought? What a good reasoning!

oba hiloowlow;878973 wrote: Zack that is correct So it is Kismayo 2.0 LOL

Oba, horta Xamar soo luma badna Unuka, Indhocade folks, Cadcadka, and Qanyare's people? Xaji, caring or not caring, he talked about it and that was what was has been mentioned on Radio Ogaal.

I don't know the difference. Are the reer DhuusoMareeb folks same as IndhoCade and Yusuf Garad folks? If so, usheeg beentii Cabdiqaasim waa dhamataaya ee iska guryo noqda dheh. DhuusoMareeb xitaa si kale ku qaateen markii hore waxaa u badnaa reer Gedo.Nimanku xagee ka yimaadeen LOL.

Xaaji Xunjuf;878965 wrote: Zack every hot topic on sol is discussed by al sol members carafaat makes 10 topics about mogadisho puntland and kismayo The same way. Abtigiis is on somalilands case. What did faisal cali waraabe say about kismayo when did he talk about kismayo You kinda denied that YOUR people talk about Kismayo nowadays. I was just correcting you and telling they indeed do! Faysal Waraabe talked about it few weeks ago when he was attacking the bigger clan. He claimed that we invaded Gedo and Jubooyinka few years ago and "dad masaakiin ah" baa meesha laga xoogay. He also claimed that landers make 60% of the population in Western Somalia. Dude was all the over place and was clueless as always. He attacked Puntland and said "Keyga lihi kaaga kula lihi is unacceptable LOL".

oba hiloowlow;878964 wrote: loool they inhabit sh/hoose awal sharci daro ay ku haysteen sida indhacadde hada waalo xalaaleye now they even got their official degmooyin Lafoole, Ceel Axmed which is located outside Marko and Bulo mareer lol No way, no how. They are heading back to Galgaduud. How about Xamar? Don't they own good portions there too? Walee ciddaan caadi ma aha.

Xaaji Xunjuf;878961 wrote: Sheikh indhocade al markaaawi baa magalaada qeyb weyn ku leh Not any more. Isagu banaankuu ka taagan yahay maanta, Xamar buu Oba iyo cad-cadka ku heystaa LOL. Suldaan Fiqi of Marka is a good friend of mine. War wanaagsan buu ka keenay meesha, dadkii xoogga kusoo duulay mar dhow waa socdaan buu yidhi.

oba hiloowlow;878959 wrote: correction: Shabelle is owned by the HG Walee LOL OK. Shabeellaha dhexe soo idinka iyo Mowliid Macaane clan ma degtaan. Reer Galmudug maxey magacaas ula baxeen idaacadooda mise Marka-da Shabeelaha Hoose ay qeyb xaaraanta ku qaateen? Wallee waa laga saari mardhow. Hobyo iyo Ximan iyo Xeeb in loo celiyo weeye.

Xaaji Xunjuf;878940 wrote: ^^ He said Somalilanders and Djiboutians talk about Jubooyinka where and when, the Mujahinds were the one that fought against the soviets and later were used against the Taliban as the northern alliance. Here at SOL, you, Carafat show your disappointments with the achievements of Reer Jubooyinka everyday. The world is watching you, Mister! Faysal Waraabe talked about it the other day too. Also, Radio Shabeele of unuka clan seems to be obsessed with the Jubooyinka stuff. Today, they reported that "ONLF" army took over Kismayo LOL. Here is what they said in writing: Kismaayo: (Sh.M.Network)— Maleeshiyada Ururka Raaskambooni ayaa lasoo sheegayaa inay la wareegeen inta badan Magaalada Kismaayo ee Xarunta gobolka Jubbada hoose, iyadoo Saraakiisha Dowladda ay shaaciyeen in Jabhadda ONLF iyo Maleeshiyo Beeleedyo ay la wareegeen qeybo badan oo ka mid Magaalada Kismaayo. Link: http://shabelle.net/maleeshiyada-raaskambooni-oo-la-wareegay-gacan-ku-haynta-kismaayo/

LOL@Madaxwyne wuxuu u yahay 3.5 kale anaga nooma aha.. now they are taking this to another level! Other than that crappy part, great program. Radio Ogaal is on it! P.s. Did you hear this dude that kept saying Barre Hiiraale is the president LOL. Markii danbe waa ku dansheen telka.

^looooool Ducaysane already implied that.

Apparently you do lol To be fair to you, a lot of people always think Xagar is in middle Jubba. Don't know how that started.

Xiin, Xagar is in lower Jubba, tan dhexe ma aha. Reer Caanoole soo weydii or look reliable source on the net. Tan dhexe ma aha.

Xiin, Great lesson! Little correction: Jubbada Hoose consists 5 districts and not just 4. Badhaadhe, Afmadow, Xagar, Kismayo and Jamaame. The clan in question lives in the first three and have a noticable presence on the other two. Also, IndhoCade's people are strangers in Jamaame, you can see few families here and there but they have no stake there, just like, Ducaysane's folks have no stake in Kismayo. Jubbada Dhexe consists of 3 districts. Buale(capital), Saakow and Jilib. "Azanians" reside Buale and some parts of Jilib. Saakow waxey u dhaxdaa the people of Bay and some Bakool. I have no idea why Carafat is mad that we discuss about our lands. No one questions his love to Gabiley and Caynabo

Abaaraha 80gii ka hor waa jireen. 1972 abaartii dabba-dheer abaartii u xumeyd aheyd. Abaaro kale oo badanna 1960's iyo ka hor waa dhici jireen. Infact, in 1800's xitaa abaaro waaweyn baa ka dhacay galbeedka Somalia oo sababay in dad badan usoo qaxaan dhinaca koonfur Geedaha la gurayo ee dhuxusha laga dhigayo have an impact on it but it is very minimal. .