Khayr... That's a good point u make. I have always wondered why more Somali guys don't have a beard. I think it's a very attractive feature.

Hibo... Well, patience is a powerful weapon...but the problem is...ur either born patient or ur not. There's no in-between...well not much anyways.

Salaam lakkad... I had the day off...so it wasn't too bad.

LoL @ Thunder....say that and u kno u gonna hav to sleep on the sofa! ____________________ Gentle hater...those tips might not always be useful coz a girl like me can easily misunderstand.... 1. Call her everyday. -------> would make me freak! 2. Always laugh at her jokes. -----> Having got used to getting :rolleyes: looks at my jokes, I would be quite suspicious if he laughed at any of them. 3. Tell her (TRUTHFULLY) that you can`t wait to see her. ------> hmmmm...exactly what can't he wait to see? 4. Offer her a back rub... without asking for one in return. ------> A big no-no...whether he asks for one in return or not...he's likely to get a knee in the groin for offering in the first place. 5. Call her just to say you were thinking of her. ------> mushy or what? Get a grip! 6. Bring her a teddy bear and chicken soup when she is sick. ------> and see me in that state? No thank u. 7.Write her a poem. -----> :rolleyes: 9. Bring her flowers for no reason. ------> Spit it out....who is she? :mad: 10. Send her a (hand written) letter just to say hello. ------> A bit too much...don't u think? 12. Kiss her in the middle of a sentence. ------> Let me finish my sentence, damn u! :mad: 14. Tell her something about you that no one else knows. ------> which I'll use against him should he ever upset me.... 16. Take a bubble bath together (only if married). ------> Sorry....the tub isn't big enough. 17. Watch a sappy movie with her. ------> :rolleyes: 19. Never stop trying to impress her. ------> A bit too much methinks. By far the best tips.... 8. Slow dance with her (not only on a dance floor). ------> great idea... 11. Always remember your anniversaries and bring her something sweet. -----> preferably a box of Ferrero Roches 13. Take her for a walk at sunset and stay to watch the stars. ----> Very romantic 15. Remind her that you still think she is beautiful. -----> 18. Surprise her with a candle light dinner. 20. Tell her you love her... don`t exspect her to know. ----> ohh....bless! 21. Never forget how much she means to you. 22. Give her a great big hughs for no reason. 23. Kiss her because she wants you to SOOO bad. -----> not sure about the 'SOO bad' part.

Fellow nomads... Horta...did I thank u all for replying? No? Well!...I don't kno what's happened to my good manners. THANK U all 4 ur inputs. Sayid Somal... LoL...we seem to hav misunderstood each other walaalo. 'Like a dream' is a turn of phrase I use in place of words such as 'brilliant' and 'fantastic'. I should have made myself clear. Sorry.

Originally posted by Ameenah: ...but why arn't the people who are supposed to help the community getting invovled? I don't know walaalo. Nobody seems that interested. There are so many 'Somali community' centres...yet nothing is actually improving. I wonder...what do they actually do for their community other than providing interpreters and organising the occassional get-together? Hibo... Luv, it's good to see u around. Going back to Somalia is always an option. Anybody who's fed-up with life in the West just buys a one-way ticket back to the country. A safety net of sorts I guess. Sayid*Somal... That sounds like a dream.

Ameenah... Unique? LoL...I guess that's one way of putting it! Lakkad... Stop lying...u kno u've a washboard-like tummy.

Originally posted by JamaaL-11: ...Oh my, it is a club environment but everything is in slow motion. In what way?

Originally posted by Souty_4life: Inteeey carareeen ey dhaheeen balo balo anaga cuntaan soo dananee ma wassmaan Soo doonanay... LoooooL! Inaalilaah! "Qabsadoo wassa lixdooduba"...kix kix kix...Poor creatures...! Beerkaa ixanuunaya qosol daraadii! Thanx 4 that. Ooooh...

The net is like any other place...full of good and bad ppl...the only difference is that it provides more opportunities to meet many like-minded or different ppl. Falling for someone over the net is a distinct possibility....however, caution is called for when dealing with such situations. Personally, I'm inclined to agree with the nomads who think nothing beats the real thing. Ayliban... If u like the girl...make an effort to meet and spend time with her. Then u can make a decision on whether u want to marry her or not.

The case for death against Amina seems flawed to say the least. But my fellow nomads have already said everything I was going to.

Scarface... The quote ur refering to was in this context.... Originally posted by Cant_Remember: Let me just shift our concern from how should we defend ourselves to how can Somali victims get justice. There are a considerable number of Somali victims (some were killed and others suffered a serious injuries) but most of their offenders or murders haven't been brought to justice yet. This is partly cause we don't get the attention that needed to put pressure on the police to catch the killers from the media or the govts. Also most Somalis don't follow up their cases in courts. This gives an encouragement to certain groups, that don't like Somalis for some weird reasons, to target them. Some areas of London it's a common view held by non-Somalis that 'you're safe from prosecution to kill a Somali.' Can't_Remember makes a good point, don't u think so? Those from ethnic backgrouds fighting for justice might not be getting anywhere as u stated...but they at least have the tenacity, determination and resources to fight for their rights. Look how long it took for the Lawrence family to get, forgetting justice for the moment, any sort of acknowledgement of wrong-doing on the part of the Metropolitan Police. Do u think a Somali family would have gone thru all that? I don't think so...the odds are stacked against us and we are not at that stage yet. We'll get there tho, insha'alaah.

Originally posted by lakkad: ...ayadii "yess"..we very generous during ramadan..lol. LoL....

Originally posted by Ameenah: Damn girl, where do you live Eltham? Well your area is pretty notorious for racist attackes iniit? Actually it is...altho it's not as bad as Eltham. There seems to be increasing yardie gang crimes in the area too. Do u remember hearing about a naked guy with a sword who went on a stabbing spree in a church in S. London? LoL...down the road from me. Our youth are in a crises walaahi. If they aren't getting killed by Whites, Blacks, Asians ... they are picking on each other. Sad...iniit?

LoL... Hey!...keep Barwaaqo out of this. Her belly doesn't need any ornaments...it's perfect just the way it is! Alxamdulilaah.

Carrying a weapon is dangerous. No doubt about it. But if everyone else is armed, then it becomes dangerous not to carry a weapon. For example...A Somali guy was using a payphone somewhere in West London. He was approached by some Asian guys who told him to get off the phone...they wanted to use it. He told them to WAIT. They walked off...got an ax...AN AX...from the trunk of one of their cars, came back and almost chopped his head off. Luckily, he lived (alxamdulilaah)...after months in hospital. What the hell are u suppose to do when everyone is armed? Get armed too DAMMIT! Maybe it's not a good idea for young teenagers to carry weapons...but it's a great idea for anyone over 20...IMHO. B_A_L_L_E_R_Z, Scarface... Sure, if it's written...then it will happen. If it's ur time to die, u can't get away from it. However, this doesn't mean u shouldn't protect ur children or urself from harm. The fact that many Somalis live in dangerous areas (Harlesden, Lambeth, Hackney...etc) can't be denied. Also the ease with which kids...especially young boys...get involved with bad crowds, drugs and all sorts of filth can't be denied either. B_A_L_L_E_R_Z...I wasn't specifically talking about Kaysar (ilaahay janada ha ka waraabiyo), altho he is another tragedy. The boy was 15...he shouldn't have been hanging around with any bad crowds in the first place. The fact that he did shows how vulnerable ciyaal keenu are. Plus I know loads of ppl die everyday whether black, white or asian. What u have to realise, is that as a community, we are very small compared to the other ethnic minorities. Also, we haven't been in this country for long...so we are in a weak position...susceptible to any social disease that comes our way...which means the number of Somali murders is too high...to be ignored any longer. Soul_Lady, Mr_Liquid _Ice Those are very sensible suggestions....(moving to the Suburbs)...but the problem is that the property market in London and the surrounding areas has gone thru the roof in the last couple of years. It has almost become impossible for the average person to afford buying a property. Even small studio and one-bedroom flats are going for over £100,000. So, most Somalis rightly rely on council housing, which in turn is a problem because families tend to be placed in run-down, crime-ridden estates. What's to be done? It's a catch-22 situation. Cant-remember... "Ur safe from prosecution to kill a Somali" That's true. To get any sort of justice...u need to browbeat the police, the prosecution service and everybody else in between. This is especially true for ethnic minorities. But the black and Asian communities have now started to fight back...unlike the Somalis. Whichever way u look at it....WE NEED SERIOUS HELP. Sayid*Somal LoL @ Somali mafia...U almost sound as bloodthirsty as someone I kno. Tamina... LoL...ur cuz sounds like moi. I never leave home without my lil swiss army knife. Makes me feel like I'm not totally helpless...even if I'm.

Farey... London isn't that dangerous as a whole...well, not yet anyways...it is just that the number of Somalis killed against the size of the community is a bit too much. Lady Hustla... Those Tae-Bo videos will be much appreciated. Do send them soon. Ilhaam... I gotta agree with Cash_floW...there isn't much parents can do at the moment...those kids have been too independent for too long...they are not about to listen to anyone. Cash_floW, Tenacious... Forming groups and looking out for each other is a bloody good idea!....altho I still think they should carry some kind of weapon. Jaaluut... Indeed dear...it's definitely past the time for revenge. Somalis have become the most victimised community in London...everyone seems to be out for our blood. I'm liking the idea of torturing some timochilic and madow behinds. :mad: Kamadage ( ) Going back home now isn't much of an option for a lot of ppl. SoL Prez... Taser? Stun-guns? No thanks...I would rather have a nice little handgun.

Lady Hustla Welcome dear. Mugging and murdering for cellphones is the norm in this city. Children as young as 10 have been killed for their mobiles. I guess it's easier to legally arm yourself in America. I'm almost tempted to wish for the same here...I wouldn't mind carrying a nice little handgun myself.

Three weeks ago (in my area) a young man, somali, was on a bus one evening on his way home. He saw another somali being assaulted and surrounded by Asians and got off the bus to help. By the time he got into the fray...inankii kale had been stabbed several times in the stomach and back....but that wasn't enough...he also got stabbed in the stomach. Last I heard the guy who tried to help was stable and the other guy was in intensive care with serious internal injuries. A week ago, again in my area, a teenage boy was with his friends. They went to get some food. He wanted pizza, they wanted Fried chicken...so, he told them he would get his pizza and meet them in Chicken Cottage (this is in my area). To make a long story short, the boy joined his friends a little while later and sat down to eat. He was approached by one of the staff and told he couldn't eat other foods in the interior. Being the teenager that he is, he started swearing and giving them lip. The member of staff went round to get the owner of the joint (an Indian man) from the butcher's shop next door. The owner grabbed a large butcher knife and went round to the restaurant. When he saw the knife, the boy tried to run...but he was easily caught by the Asian guy who proceeded to slash his abdomen open from one side to the other. PPl screamed, police and ambulances were called...but too late. Inankii yaraa bartii buu kudhintay. He was 17....fortunately he was not Somali....this time. I'm sure u are all aware of the number of Somali teenagers who've already been killed in London. In my area alone several had been attacked and seriously injured but thankfully none had died...surprisingly, my area is considered to have a low crime rate....I'm sure u can imagine what happens in boroughs with high rates of crime and large Somali communities... Could this be because our boys can't walk away from fights? Or is it because they can't defend themselves because they are not armed? Maybe it is both. Other than refusing to let them out of the house, what can be done to protect them? Personally I think, in the case of young boys...between 12 and 18...parents should try to know exactly where they are, when they are not in school, who they hang around with, who their closest friends are and what they do with their time. I think parents should be as strict with their sons as they are with their daughters. Maybe then, there won't be so many hurt by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or associating with the wrong crowds. Another option maybe be to arm themselves. It is a bit extreme, I know...but we are living in extreme times. At least, they could cause some damage too rather than meekly waiting to be cut down by some effing timojilic or madow fool xun. Istaakh furalaah. I just get so angry everytime I think of about it. :mad: Yes, there will probably be consequences of carrying knives or whatever else...it's criminal in the UK to carry anything that could be used as a weapon, even scissors...but that still doesn't stop anyone from carrying. Also some stupid Faaraxs might use them on each other every time they have a little argument...as they already do...but I think maybe be the benefits outweigh the cons in this case. So, what do u all think? To arm or not to arm?

What do I like about being a woman? Confounding men of course, what else?!

CS... Nobody appointed America as the world's police-officer. They appointed themselves. The biggest chunk of UN funding also comes from the States, so basically the US owns the UN.

Idi Amiin...lol. Kaalay, maxaad lacagta kusameysaa hadaadan isticmaalin? Don't u buy anything? or does it sit in ur bank account collecting interest? Maybe u used it for insulation to keep warm?? Tell the truth....I bet ur wardrobe is over flowing with clothes too! U've also got a huge CD collection and of course a huge sound system, haven't u? :rolleyes: Anagaad wax kale isaga kaaya soo dhigaysaa.

The girl has obviously been watching too much of Sex and the City! Nothing but dust is under my bed. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by nuune: i know that most somali ladies have pierced their naval..... Kaalay nuune, how do u know that ? Did u personally check all their belly buttons? Lakkad... Except 4 my ears, there is no other part of me pierced. Sorry! PS: Why u interested? Do u have a navel fetish?

Boys...if I'm not mistaken Prettyboy's Q is addressed to the ladies. Hmmm....I don't know which body part I like the most....I can tell u which one I dislike the most....but that's not relevant to the topic.