The only difference between my work and the work of the whole medical profession is that I think we're in striking distance of keeping people so healthy that at 90 they'll carry on waking up in the same physical state as they were at the age of 30, and their probability of not waking up one morning will be no higher than it was at the age of 30.

Aubrey de Grey: We don't have to get sick as we get olderIf we can stop the physical deterioration that comes with age, molecular biologist Aubrey de Grey sees no reason why human beings shouldn't live to be 1,000 With his beard and robust opinions, there's something of the Old Testament prophet about Aubrey de Grey. But the 47-year-old gerontologist (who studies the process of ageing) says his belief that he might live to the very ripe old age of 1,000 is founded not on faith but science. De Grey studied computer science at Cambridge University, but became interested in the problem of ageing more than a decade ago and is the co-founder of the Sens (Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence) Foundation, a non-profit organisation based in the US. What's so wrong with getting old? It is simply that people get sick when they get older. I don't often meet people who want to suffer cardiovascular disease or whatever, and we get those things as a result of the lifelong accumulation of various types of molecular and cellular damage. This is harmless at low levels but eventually it causes the diseases and disabilities of old age – which most people don't think are any fun. Is this the biggest health crisis facing the world? Absolutely. If we look at the industrialised world, basically 90% of all deaths are caused by ageing. They are deaths from causes that affect older people and don't affect young adults. And if we look at the whole world, then the number of deaths that occur each day is roughly 150,000 and about two-thirds of them are because of ageing. Why does the world not recognise this? People have been trying to claim that we can defeat ageing since the dawn of time, and they haven't been terribly successful; there is a tendency to think there is some sort of inevitability about ageing – it somehow transcends our technological abilities in principle, which is complete nonsense. And when people have made their peace with this ghastly thing that is going to happen to them at some time in the distant future, they tend to be rather reluctant to re-engage the question when someone comes along with a new idea. Is it that our bodies just stop being so proactive about living? Basically, the body does have a vast amount of inbuilt anti-ageing machinery; it's just not 100% comprehensive, so it allows a small number of different types of molecular and cellular damage to happen and accumulate. The body does try as hard as it can to fight these things but it is a losing battle. So we are not going to be able to do anything significant about ageing without hi-tech intervention – which is what I'm working on. Ageing involves the process of metabolism, and then deterioration, and then pathology – is that right? Basically, that's right. Metabolism involves a vastly complicated network of biochemical and cellular processes that are linked and that succeed in keeping us alive for as long as they do, but they have these side effects. The side-effects start even before we are born, they go on throughout life and they are manifested as, for example, the accumulation of various types of molecular garbage inside cells and outside cells, or simply as cells dying and not being automatically replaced by the division of other cells. Gradually those changes at the molecular and cellular level accumulate and accumulate and eventually they start to get in the way of metabolism, and that's where pathology comes. You've identified seven particular areas of cellular decay that might be combated. Can you give examples? I just mentioned cells dying and not being automatically replaced, that's one. Another is cells not dying when they ought to – certain types of cells are supposed to turn over and sometimes they lose the ability to respond to signals that tell them to die. A third is cells dividing too much – they may be dying when they are supposed to but dividing too much, and that is what cancer is. We've known what causes cancer for some time but we are a long way from being able to cure it, aren't we? I certainly don't claim that any of this is easy. Some of it is easier – but I've always viewed cancer as the single hardest aspect of ageing to fix. You've talked about enriching people's lives, but isn't it the very fact of death that gives our lives meaning? That's nonsense. The fact is, people don't want to get sick. I'm just a practical guy. I don't want to get sick and I don't want you to get sick and that's what this is all about. I don't work on longevity, I work on keeping people healthy. The only difference between my work and the work of the whole medical profession is that I think we're in striking distance of keeping people so healthy that at 90 they'll carry on waking up in the same physical state as they were at the age of 30, and their probability of not waking up one morning will be no higher than it was at the age of 30. You've said you think the first person to live to 1,000 may already be alive. Could that person be you? It's conceivable that people in my age bracket, their 40s, are young enough to benefit from these therapies. I'd give it a 30% or 40% chance. But that is not why I do this – I do this because I'm interested in saving 100,000 lives a day. Can the planet cope with people living so long? That's to do with the balance of birth and death rates. It didn't take us too long to lower the birth rate after we more or less eliminated infant mortality 100 or 150 years ago. I don't see that it's sensible to regard the risk of a population spike as a reason not to give people the best healthcare that we can.

^^^No nothing new, the outcome of the meeting is a secret me thinks.

Historic figure, AUN. He inherited a functioning nation and left it in a state of utter deprivity..

^^^Malika with all due respect sister, you dont have a point here. I would have taken you seriously if you was honest, but alas you are not. Che knows how to dish it out, and with respect to him he can take it as well..

^^^Have no idea...

^^How come you only ever read what I write as opposed to our full exchange?

^^^Pride has nothing to do with this adeer. Its the news.

^^^Not sure it is, I always liked our Nassir..

Che, adeer I am trying to help you get over the abuse you endured back when you lived in Kabul. :rolleyes: Couple of good points made, North is correct in that in today’s society we have more outlets to get information on Islam, however as one brother mentioned with the Somali’s it does seem to be a fad, and like Kal stated that with the defeat of the Al Shabaab and likes people’s views will moderate. Now this is an interesting assertion.

A most welcome development, the sister has impressed me with her intellect and contribution to that section. A good move indeed.. Congrats to Warmoog.

Boosaaso:"Ciidankeenu Heegan Culus bay kujiraan"Wasiirka Amniga ee D/Puntland. 4. august 2010 APL Boosaaso:(Allpuntland)-Wasiirka Amniga Dawlada Puntland ee Soomaaliyeed Jen,Yuusuf Axmed Kheyr ayaa shaaca kaqaaday in Ciidamad kaladuwan ee Dawlada Puntland ay heegan buuxa ku jiraan islamarkaasna ay Diyaar u yihiin inay Dalkooda & Dadkoodaba ka difaacaan cidkasta oo isku dayda inay Amaanka Dalkiisa khalkaliyaan. Jenenku wuxuu sidoo kale sheegey in Ciidamada Sirta ee Puntland oo dhowr nooc ah islamarkaasna Qaarkood hubaysanyihiin ay ilgaar ah ku hayaan Kooxo uu Argagaxiso ku tilmaamay oo uu sheegey in ay Imika Dalka Soomaaliya kusoo duuleen Waxaana uu Wasiirku intaas ku daray in Kooxahaas qaarkood ay joogaan Buuraleyda gobolka Bari ee Puntland. "Ciidankeenu Heegan Culus ayey ku jiraan..Waxayna Diyaar u yihiin inay la dagaalamaan cidkasta oo isku dayda inay Amaankeena & Xasiloonideena Khalkhalisa..Waxaana imika Dhibaatooyin badan soo siyaadiyey Argagaxisada oo Dalkeena Dhibaatooyin ku haya Amaanka Puntland"Ayuu yiri Wasiirka Amaanka ee Puntland. Yuusuf Axmed Kheyr wuxuu sheegey in Dhawaan Tilaabadii ay Xukuumadiisu qaaday islamarkaasna ay deegaanadooda ugu Colaysay Boqolaal Ruux ay ahayd mid imika Miraheedii lahelay islamarkaasna Magaalada Boosaaso oo Amaankeedu khatar galay ay imika Soo roonaanayso,isagoo sheegey in ay Dhawaan si toos ah uga guulaysan doonaan Cadowyadooda kaladuwan. Cabdiqani Xayir Allpuntland

Duke, who told you that he is the most powerful Garaad. Perhaps to Puntland he is the most influential. The sad truth is that he hails not from a major clan that can dent our inevitable march to self-rule, peace and progress. Puntland is betting on the wrong horse.. My God, did Nassir utter such filth? Its one thing for you to attack an individual even a respected elder, but for you to dismiss a whole family one which is part of your own sub, sub clan is quite scary. One deplores the state that our cousins are in if this is the mentality of their brightest. Che, the qualification of a Garad of the noble houses of the North East is no doubt more difficult to attain than the title of "Shiekh" that is paraded around by members of the ***** cult of Al Shabaab.

Somalia: Puntland declares war on terrorists and pirates 3 Aug 3, 2010 - 11:29:23 AM The leader of northern Somalia's stable Puntland government has vowed to fight terror groups who have "attacked Puntland," Radio Garowe reports. Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed Farole, Puntland's president who won the peaceful 2009 election, spoke at the State House in the Puntland capital Garowe to mark the 12th anniversary since Puntland's formation in 1998. The ceremony also marked the first time that Puntland's new state flag was raised officially at the State House.

^^^Ok mate, which are are you from today? If i were you i would start investing in the training of more pirates, so you can loot more xaran money the world, seeing that the pirateland economy is run 90% on xaran i gurentee you it aint going anywhere saxib. start investing in xalal forms of money making. Also Mike, you seem to be contradicting yourself, are you saying Piracy is Halaal?

Dawladee? Who is he to side with the government, He is the most powerful Garad of the clan, and you may dispute it behind a screen but the truth is as clear as the rays of the sun.. In a war between a state and bandits, its the elders who make the decesions in the benefit of their people.

Faroole is talking rubish, all the silly moves he made specially with the security forces have come to bite him in his behind. The sooner he leaves the better, but we need a strong new champion. Insha Allah khair.

^^^The Afghan boy dancer is at it again, just address the issue from what you observe adeer, dont worry about the Duke, he at least knows that suicide bombing a market full of civilians is un-Islamic.

Tuujiye, as usual you make a valid point..

Originally posted by ceelayohoyoo: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: The people will not be fooled by a man in the hills, who is isolated and alone.. The Garad has spoken, the General has spoken and the elders have spoken in support of their state.. Cowke you'd make a good advisor to Faroole. I hope you guys are victorious with all the man(s) in the hills. Hope they dont keep you from sleeping at night lol. The "new" lad is a fan of Cowke, wonderful stuff. Welcome back lad..

The people will not be fooled by a man in the hills, who is isolated and alone.. The Garad has spoken, the General has spoken and the elders have spoken in support of their state..

Masuuliyin Ka Tirsan Dawladda Puntland iyo Ciidanka Badda NATO Oo Kulmay August 3, 20100 comments| leave your own!Wefdi u horkacaayo Wasiirka dekaddaha iyo gaadiidka Badda Puntland Eng.Siciid Maxamed Raage iyo saraakil ka tirsan Ciidanka Badda Puntland ayaa duleedka xeebta magaaladda Bosaaso ee xarunta gobolka Bari kulan kula qaatay Saraakil ka tirsan Ciidanka Badda NATO ee xeebaha Soomaaliya u jooga howlgalka la dagaalanka Burcadbadeeda Soomaalida. Kulanka ayaa ka dhacay mid kamid ah Maraakiibta dagaal ay iska leeyihin Ciidanka Badda NATO oo yimi xeebta Bosaaso,waxaana goobjoog ka ahaa kulanka Taliyaha guud ee Ciidanka NATO Commodore Michel Hijmans oo dhowaan xilkaas la wareegay. Sida ay wararku sheegaayan kulanka ayaa looga hadlay xaaladda guud ee Puntland,iyadoo si aad ah lagu dheeraaday arrimaha la dagaalanka Burcadbadeeda. Wasiirka dekaddaha iyo gaadiidka Badda ayaa Saraakiisha ciidanka Badda NATO u sheegay in Dawladda Puntland ay ka go’an tahay in ay la dagaalanto Burcadbadeeda,waxaana Taliyaha Ciidanka NATO sheegay inuu soo dhoweynaayo go’aanka NATO isla markaasna diyaar u yihiin in ay gacan ka geystaan. Kulanka ayaa ahaa mid aan loo ogolayn in ay Saxaafada ka qaybgasho,waxaana kulamo noocaan oo kale dhexmaray masuuliyinta Dawladda Puntland iyo Saraakiisha Ciidamada ku sugan xeebaha Soomaaliya. Horseed Media

NGOONGE, one wishes Faroole had your cool. But thats another topic altogether. Serenity made a valid point more so than the old men. But what about the other group, the my name is Mo, and so on..

^^^Stop taking the piss and give a serious observation, you were there in the old days after all. When did this cycle start?

^^^I think when we look at the truth Nassir, the Garad, Gen ilkaJiir, Doonyale and even the elders of Hayland all seem to be making sense. Attam and a few supporters seem to be detached from reality. The Garad is a supporter of a state that he is a leader of, a member of and a founder of.