Haatu the first ever written history we have was around the 11 12 history ofcourse towns and cities existed but those cities were not identified as somali civilization. We are very young people compared to others. Yemen Ethiopia Sudan. The first Muslim Empires were on the rise around the 12 century walashma and adal in Somaliland and parts of today's Ethiopia harar and shewa A. Juraan Empire emerged later around the 16 century in Somalia. We are very young people Haatu. We have no ancient history like the greeks Egyptians romans the Yemenites the Aksumites etc when the a.juraan Sultanate was in Somalia in the 17 century Louis XIV of france had colonies in today's canada wa shalay niyo.

Jacaylbaro;905254 wrote: Xaaji, Adiga waddankaagii maxaad uga maqan tahay waa nabade ?? ictraafkaan sugayaa markaasan imanaya oromadu wadan ictraafay haystaan maxa walay oo wadan la ictraafsanayn ugu qaxayan Anigu beri hore baan is dhiibay 23 sanadood ka hor wadan ictraaf leh baan imi, hada waxan sugaya uun inan wadanki aan u dhashay sidi aan ugu noqon laha

Nuune waba nin dawakhay maxa kosovo iyo east timor iga yaala:D Oromo wadan bay leeyihin wadankooda ha ku eekadaan ma anaga sudaanta keeney Dadka so galiteenka shaqo cad ba laga qabanaya.

Sorry we dont do Human trafficking if we see them in Somaliland they will be deported back to the land of origin let them go through Djibouti Eritrea sudan not Somaliland they are not our problen. They become our problem when they are in Somaliland.

Nuune hadu alle idmo waan tegi wanan ka shaqeyn amaanka dalka jamhuuriyada Somaliland dadkaas na walugu celin wadankooda dawlada Somaliland boqolki ba 90 dadkaas wa ka sareen Somaliland. calcaalka itoobiyanka ka baxaya hadaad akhri lahayd waad yaabi. http://gadaa.com/oduu/11608/2011/11/13/oromia-somaliland-the-frustrating-situation-of-refugees-in-somaliland/

Even in their oromia they claim about 50% of shinile region These people have enough land dhulkoodi haku laabtan haday diidaan we will deport them to Ethiopia.

Maxkamadu halkay ku taala war maxkamad uma baahni wadanka aniga iska leh and they dont belong there

Haatu is right they belong in Ethiopia in oromia nazaret adama addis ababa. They dont even belong in the Kilil 5 region these oromos are after land they even claim half of shinile and other parts of galbeed. Never understood why Somalis welcome these people they are worse than their Amhaara and Tigrayan cousins.

Haatu A.Juraan Sultanate was around the 16 17 century thats not ancient lol

There were about 100.;000 Ethiopians in 2010 and 90 percent of them were send back to Ethiopia so the problem is solved the kulmiye government handled it very well.

http://togaherer.com/madaxweyne-siilaanyo-oo-maanta-xadhiga-ka-jaray-warshada-cusub-oo-soo-saari-doonta-buugaagta/

Abtigiis but you have to admit that Abdi ileey has gained a lot of support from beesha the past 2 years or so especially from the diaspora. Cabdi Iley plays the game very intelligent in order to win the hearts and minds of his people. He had to create a new political identity that of a O hero fighting for the O rights in Ethiopia and against the Ethnic Somalilanders , the Somalilanders are the aggressors. And ofcrouse Xiinfaniin and the Puntlanders are doing the cheer leading because they see him a strategic partner in jigjiga. Mogadishu has Djibouti and Garowe has jigjiga thats the message coming from Garowe.

^^ There is no actual evidence of that , perhaps it exist but we don't have the needed scripture to proof it that they were Somalis. We haven't identified those civilization as ours. Our history really starts around the 11 12 century, Somalis are a young nation perhaps they existed before to but not as Somalis or as modern Somalis. So ameena is pretty correct.

xiinfaniin;905141 wrote: Xaaji Xunjuf's negative sentiment against O people is understandable. Abdi Iley, the leader of Og-aden region has exacted some restrictions on the clan of Faysal Waraabe, who thought during the political vacuum days his cousins were closer to the Ethiopia than they were to Mogadishu. The tables are now reversed, and good Xaaji Xunjuf is now feeling the heat from Iley boys. So his sentiment is along those lines -- a bit small but still valid. My take on this is the rise of this clan will be a positive development and will bring prosperity to all Somali lands including those with two flags in Hargeysa I was just stating the possible scenarios for the O community but even if the ONLF forges peace with Ethiopia another group will take up arms same O people and continue the war against the Abyssinians. It was always like that you are not familiar with them this is not Bari the life in hawd is hard we live for camels die for camels and the living conditions is below average. We don't wear silk and get sick when we smell sea food. if Abdi ileey tries to hurt Ethnic Somalilandish people in gaashamo aware daroor etc those people know how to fight xabadu wiif wiif. Affarta ma cel celiyey oo ma is daba ciidamiyey Codkagan kaga bilaabay miyaan col kalena kiciyey Cartan iyo camuud ma is dhex coomiiyey colaadi tiilay cabdi ileey iyo curadadisi ceelkan gudihisa ma ku coojiiyey

Wa runteed Oromadu wa cali beysteen

Haatu;905128 wrote: lol Amaantan xagey ka timi? Although tolka is a rising force, it's biggest enemy is still itself. Xaad iyo Abwaan bu dhiiga ku kicinaya Faroole oo puntland qasay na sheekada wu ku qarinaya wax fahan niyo caqligu wali ma cagahu idinkaga jira goormaad nimankan puntland baranaysan.

What xiinfaniin fails to realize is that O people in Ethiopia using foreign leverage is not good for the Somali state he so attached to and holds so close to his heart when ever it suits him:D. Kenya just got involved end 2010 in Somalia it has lot to learn so on Kenyan Somali Politicians there is so little they can do perhaps hold some conferences in Kenya but that's about it. If the ONLF surrender to Ethiopia and admiral Osman jets of to Addis ababa and makes peace with the TPLF. Than the O community can have lots of influence in the region it can even use the Liyo police or even the federal troops inside Somalia to fight against HAG elements if they want and forcefully establish their Azania Kingdom.

When Puntlanders are praising the political skills and the competence of Azanians when it comes to the political arena and not only that when they add the rise of the O'gadens every one knows there is something fishy. Keep in mind the O'gadens are still at war with the Ethiopians well atleast in Ethiopia. So there is little room for them in addis ababa unless they surrender to Haile mariam deselegn complety the leader of Ethiopia.On the Kenyan part they played it well i give you that the only problem is never was a regional state declared and established with the help of foreign troops present not in galmudug not in Puntland ximan iyo xeeb but if they pull it off than kuddos to them.

Maya 80dhiyadi bay ahayd, 2010 waxan bartay wax ka wanaagsan afki af spaniyool baan bartay, waxana i bartay gabadh colombia ka timi , afki caashaqa. Tan baan ku walaan jiray slaan ayeeydey ba odhan jirtay hooyo gaalka madow muxu leeyahay markaasan odhan jiray ukaadi wu heesaya eeh, ma wuxu ku heesayan oga , Micheal allow ku naxariiso. Abtigiis adigu goormaad afka Amharic baratay ma berigi haile sellesie university aad dhigan jirtay?

You can like music i like berber music i dont understand but i love the sound of it you don't need to understand, berigi hore anigu xabad English ah aqoon baan Micheal jackson dhegeysan jiray what do you call that.

United Somalia;905047 wrote: I don't want bantu Kenyans in my country which have shown their hostile intentions against the Somali government and her people, thats all Somalia is my country, yes my country What about the Ugandan bantus and rwandan

I sense allot of anti OG sentiment in this topic waryaadhaheen reerka ino dayaa laga maaarme eh. By the way the lower juba for the vast majority belongs to the OG community and the middle juba they share with a few other clans. Reerka dhulkooda maxa loogu diidaya so Somaliyaa wax kama degaan. United Somalia you cannot call OG khariib in Somalia they have 12 mps in the Somalia parliament.

fannan;905015 wrote: maybe raas casayr is not part of puntland any more, like khatumo state left, Lets be honest raas caseer no longer exist it was a nairobi based state they never reached baargaal

Says the guy who carries the name united Somalia Waleh tani isma oga

Xaad waba Abwaan oo biyo is marin:D