Problem with taleexi is he in reality doesn't believe in a clan state but he sticks with it for the time being i wonder when he will jump ship?

Che -Guevara;929982 wrote: Give it rest too. N you are not good neighbors anyone including your fellow Somalis. I am a good neighbor to any one, as long we respect each others boundaries with the exception of the oromo peasants who want to steal Somali territories.

Carafaat oromos have nothing to do with Somalis , oromos are Ethiopians they are not closer to us than their Habashi cousins , the only oromos that have some sort closeness are the arsi oromos and we brought them islam. Somalis are closer to the Rendile and Afars and Hararis.

Oromos are nothing like Somalis we dont speak a like we dont look a like and surely we are not friends or good neighbors.

I guess maalin wanaagsan uun

Who is we?

The looters incorporated , I think the Garaad clan those who still have hope that with waving the blue flag you will be valued in Mogadishu and given a share of the political pie. Will soon also see the light its just a matter of time. I think Taleexi is a rational guy he sees what went wrong right now or the past 21 years and how he wasted time first on Puntland than the SSC than the Khatumo project its time for a radical approach.

What would i do if i won the lottery let me see. Construct 10 hospitals in Somaliland I would buy my self a nice big mansion in California Buy couple of Private jets I would fund a Militia in the Somali galbeed region to keep the Oromos at bay Also south east asia waan tagi laha dad baan so ibsan laha ii shaqeyaa. I would also buy the ictraaf for Somaliland.

Alpha why are you hating on the girl waryaa ka xishood inanta. Dr sada is a good lady i hope her all the best in her career.

Apophis;929921 wrote: I'm very serious comrade. Jaale siyad was the best thing to happen to somalia since camels were tamed. All the people of the former Somali republic would have not rebelled against him if he was as great as you tell us he was. How old are you, did you live in Somalia under his reign?

The ONLF was an Ethiopian party at that time they didn't pick up arms they just did that way later in 1994. Well the Somali republic normalized relations with Ethiopia i dont think in the near future they will change that policy. Only the Somalis in Somali galbeed can fight for their rights Somalia cant do anything.

Apophis you are not serious:D

Indeed they were abandoned the WSLF was finished at that time Afaraad faction already joined the SNM years before that. General siad bare cared more about keeping the SNM at bay than keeping the M.O.D. alliance intact when push comes to shove, Siad bare did what he had to do.

^^ He sold you to Mengistu and restored relations with your enemy.

Not true the oromos can be divided in 3 categories the omo and orma including the bale clans who moved to the north the one who live in the deep south and in kenya who have Bantu ancestry and Nilotic ancestry. The one in northern shewa and western shewa and bareento oromos and tulama and wallelge oromos who are very close to Amhara and agaws Gurage culturally genetically.That leaves the arsi in Hararge and those in Harar, those might be close to Somalis but they are not the majority of oromos , oromos are not all ethnically the same. The reason why the arsi is close to the Somali is because we brought them islam and taught them the fine values of Islam.

^^ i doubt that the oromos and Somalis are neighbors and thats why there is some sort of similarities particulary eastern oromos. But the oromos are their own people and they were never the same people.

Apophis;929886 wrote: You started the fitna sxb, without the SNM fitna(and to a lesser extent, SSDF shenanigans) Somalia would have been under the benign rule of jaale siyaad. I wouldn't have had any problems with that; I miight have even joined the aiforce and randomly bombed Ethiopian villages in my spare time. Life would have been very good but you id!ots had to ruin it. General siad bare and his junta acted if they owned the country so he had to be defeated, the Somali republic existed before the General siad bare. But you can also blame your own uncle Ina Umar Jeess:D

^^ True the Bantu Somalis are Somalis lets not discriminate against the people of Somalia who are Somali all the way down.

Tallaabo;929890 wrote: ^ Xaaji there is no Oromo conspiracy to invade the the Somali territories or use culture and language to overtake us. Their expansion comes with their natural growth in population and the resultant movement of people in search of livelyhood. And in Galbeed, Somalis have little power to resist such influx of migrants as they are within the Ethiopian borders. Their might not be conspiracy but the eastern oromo tribes want to imitate the Somali and go from there they know their numbers will increase its not natural growth they breed like rabbits They have more children than the average Ethiopian

metta;929811 wrote: There is no Bantu expansion in Muqdisho as in permanent resettlement. The only reason why you see a rise in Bantus in Muqdisho is because they are IDP's. They are coming for services and shelter from the past famine and the Shabab and the violence. Once the violence ends, they will all go back to their areas. They don't want to start a new life in Muqdisho. They want to go back to their homes. Besides, Bantus are 1000x better than Oromos. Bantus work hard and contribute to society. They have a 0% unemployment rate among khat addicted skinnies. They do stuff regardless of the situation. Oromos don't. Oromos are lazy and unemployed here in Canada where there are opportunities. Forget about Africa. I don't mind if Oromos live in Somalia but they must be fully integrated in Somalia. They must claim Somali clans. They must learn Somali and must only speak in Somali. They must act and be a Somali. They must act as if the Oromo is an enemy. If not, Oromo expansion should be fought tooth and nail Its funny you say that if they claim Somali they will become Somali but that's not good since we do not want to conquer them them claiming Somali would have made sense if we wanted to expand into oromia but we are not after nazaret and adama. The Shewan Amharas did that they mixed with the local oromos and constructed the Shewen identity a mixed heritage. Thats how the Amaharas captured much of the oromo territory some where in the mid 1800s.The Amhara Kings and elites had a policy to mix with the indigenous oromos paternally and maternally, but the language that was spoken would be all the time Amharic and the religion would be orthodox Christendom so when Menelik was expanding he had oromo generals who spoke Amharic and thats how he further expanded into their territory and thats how the Amharas defeated the oromos and created the new Ethiopia. But we Somalis are not after their land we want to protect the Somali galbeed region from these intruders thats the objective.

No the problem is if they claim Somali culture language they will try to use that as a tool to invade the Somali territory u have to understand its a tool they use. So they need to be stopped on all fronts.

Sulleiman The Great;929807 wrote: the orormo are a good muslim people they are our genetically and culturally the closest thing somali have with the rest of the dark continent, the bantu expansion has been happening for hundreds of years, and right now its is in mugdishu, we somali need to understand that the oromo are our ally, we need to come together and look beyond tribal differences, build our nation raise our children with the strength and love to safeguard our land our people and our culture, if not we will go extinct, I for one dont care which path we choose nor will history. Ally in what you do know the oromos are the Bulk of the Ethiopian army you cannot forge an alliance with people who want to steal your land.

Tallaabo you nailed it even though i believe Bantus Metta is right that Bantus are much more productive than oromos.

CAR rebels 'seize' presidential palace President Francois Bozize flees to neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo as rebels take capital, Bangui. Last Modified: 24 Mar 2013 12:40 inShare 2EmailPrintShareFeedback WARNING: This video contains images that some viewers may find disturbing Rebels in the Central African Republic have said that they seized the presidential palace in the capital Bangui after heavy fighting. Sylvanne Omar Pordass, a spokesperson of the Seleka rebels, told Al Jazeera that the president had fled into the neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo. Government officials also confirmed that Bozize had fled into the neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo. "The rebels control the town," said Gaston Mackouzangba, a spokesman for the president. "I hope there will not be any reprisals." A foreign ministry official also confirmed to Al Jazeera that the rebels had taken control of the national TV and radio stations. Rebel leader Michel Djotodia is expected to make an address. The rebels resumed hostilities this week in the mineral-rich former French colony, vowing to topple Bozize, whom they accuse of breaking a January peace agreement to integrate its fighters into the army. The loose umbrella group of insurgents fought its way to the gates of the capital late last year after accusing Bozize of failing to honour an earlier peace deal to give its fighters cash and jobs in exchange for laying down their arms. "I think now that Bangui has fallen and the president is out, the citizens are hopeful there will be no more military violence," said Michael Amoah, an African political analyst based in London. "And the current prime minister stays in place; he is the choice of the rebels anyway." A spokesman for the prime minister, Nicolas Tiangaye, on Saturday called on the rebels to accept talks to "avoid a bloodbath." Tiangaye, an opposition figure, was only appointed as part of the peace deal brokered between the government and the rebels in January, an agreement that broke down last week. 'No direct threat' The violence is the latest in a series of rebel incursions, clashes and coups that have plagued the landlocked nation in the heart of Africa since its independence from France in 1960. Factbox: CAR Geography: It is bordered by Chad, Sudan, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Cameroon. Population: 4.5m inhabitants in 2011 Capital: Bangui Languages: Sango and French Religion: Around four-fifths are Christian. Also animist and Muslim. France, which already has some 250 soldiers stationed in the Central African Republic, sent in another company of 150 troops to secure Bangui's international airport, a diplomatic source said. "We have asked our citizens to remain at home. For the time being, there is nothing to be worried about," said the source. "There is no direct threat to our citizens at the moment." But the foreign ministry said on Sunday that France has no plans to send additional troops to the country. The airport, close to the heart of the capital, would be an important exit point for France's 1,200 citizens who live in CAR, mostly in Bangui. South Africa has sent some 400 soldiers to train Bozize's army, joining hundreds of peacekeepers from the Central African regional bloc. Regional peacekeeping sources said the South Africans had fought alongside the Central African Republic's army. State radio had announced late on Friday that South Africa would boost its troop presence after Bozize met his South African counterpart Jacob Zuma in Pretoria http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/03/201332481729584103.html

Central African Republic's Bozize flees presidential palace English.news.cn 2013-03-24 16:44:22 BANGUI, March 24 (Xinhua) -- Central African Republic President Francois Bozize fled the presidential palace in the capital Bangui 30 minutes before rebels began to zero in on the compound, the Presidency said on Sunday. The Presidency announced his flight after a local human rights observation group reported that Bozize was seen on route to Mbaiki 107 km south of Bangui. The announcement came amid fierce fighting around the presidential palace, which has been reportedly seized by the rebel Seleka coalition, according to the latest information.