SomaliPhilosopher;987590 wrote: Do y'all think the Sayid will ever be resurrected in xamar? I doubt it

The iranians got a fine deal there it will give them enough time to enrich uranium in their disclosed facilitates and Sanctions will be eased the losers are Family Saudi the Israelis . The winners are Asad of Syria Hizbullah the Iranians the Huuthis in Yemen. The special relations between israel and the US is not that special after all.

Thats a bit extreme i would say the Muslims there need stand up for their rights.

Cadale;987535 wrote: i see what you're trying to do yaa xaaji but the airline is called SOMALI AIRLINES . its mostly named after the country Somalia or Somali Somalia airline unless cadale your country has 2 names:D

U malayn mayo laakin anigu xarshin kamaan iman bal meel kala ku day tuulo kale oo galbeed ku taal, Ina ileey reerkisa waan garanaya waxay degan godey fiiq iyo dhuxun iyo meelahas

Oo maxaan ka faaiidaya ka qeyb galkooda faiida fara badan kama helayo meel barlamaanki ugaandhis ilaalinayo caruurti iyo dumarkina turki quudinayo iga daa golleh gobeed maha eh. Xaaji dhan baan ahay mise waxad rabtay inay cumaamadu iga dhacdo. Ciyaartan waxay u dhexeysa ilma damuljadiid iyo kooxa ka so horjeeda.

i dont think ileey is from Harshin or allay baday i believe Ileey is from Godey,

Laa isu abtirsay i think Saacid needs to play it smart if he wants to make it difficult for the damuljadiid he should forge an alliance with faroole and the mps from bay and bakool. He should deal with the decision makers from those constituencies If he can get his clan on his side all he needs to do is buy off the mps from Somaliland, and Djibouti and lower shabelle,asha haji can do a bit of networking since she is already an mp and get some votes of her clan it will still be difficult for saacid since qatari money is involved. I dont think he can beat the damuljadiid. But if he can unite his tribe in parliament he has a solid foundation and he can put up a fight.

^^ Whats the country called Somalia or the Somali republic?

They are mostly of a tight group of tribes but many belong also to the lineage of the former dictator.

Siad bare died long time ago but his loyalists are still alive most of them have fled the country and are in the diaspora and they wish to be reinstated in Somalia.

Classified;987512 wrote: Who exactly? General Siad bare and his loyalists

Moonlight why did you not respond to my question on your comparison of the Late adolf Hitler and General Siad bare, why do you believe Somalilanders should protect Somaliweyn The french and the Brits never tried to protect the greater Europe 3rd reich, but the 3 economically politically and socially integrated their strength and powers under a shared organization called the EU.

Sad thing for the Somali bantus i hope they one day re integrate into Somalia and return from America and use their learned skills in Somalia , Somali bantus are the most hard working Somalis

Dee kuwi laga adkaaday

^^ The talks are not to interesting for now either way they will reach a dead end , sooner or later what Somaliland sun mentioned was what was agreed on before, and what the 2 sides agreed on for now. Clearly if you have been following the dialogue very closely in June they reached a dead end, and only agreed on the airspace joint committee, for practical reasons. Other than that both sides have no room to reach an agreement on the most controversial and disputed area of the 2, Somaliland quest for recognition and the re establishment of the old Somali republic. Why do you think the 2 discussed for 72 hours and only agreed on the airspace, i think we have reached the final stage of these talks i believe with out our friends from the European union and they meddling and mediating and joining the negotiations table, the 2 sides will not come to an agreement, on their future relations.

Surely yes the Koonfurians are in a political crisis remember the Prime minister and the President are having a their usual cat fights sidi caadadu u ahayd. I think they told the Turks to give them more time no official statement there is still a chance for the talks to happen first week of December.

Somaliland: President Silanyo Parley Turkish Delegation E-mail Monday, 25 November 2013 02:02 Submit to Delicious Submit to Digg Submit to Facebook Submit to Google Bookmarks Submit to Stumbleupon Submit to Technorati Submit to Twitter Submit to LinkedIn VP Sayli and President Silanyo ® with the Turkish team VP Sayli and President Silanyo ® with the Turkish team By: M.A.Egge HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) - The President H.E Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud (Silanyo) met with Turkish Ambassador H.E. Cemalettin Kani Torun for Somaliland- Somalia and it was agreed that Turkey would open a consulate in Hargeisa soon. The Turkish envoy delegation comprising of Turkish businessmen at the Presidential Palace discussed several issues including the upcoming Somalia-Somaliland talks which are expected to resume next year in Istanbul, Turkey. President Silanyo flanked by Vice President Hon Abdurrahman Abdullah Ismael Sayli'i further discussed how Somaliland and Turkey would not only foster political relations but also how to increase trade and investment as means of reinforcing commercial and economic relations. Hon Mohamed Bihi Yonis, Minister of Foreign Affairs later speaking during a press briefing said, "Both sides have agreed on the significance of doubling the existing political and commercial exchange in the coming years and developing mutual relations in the field investment we now have a moment of opportunity to build stronger ties at all levels between our business worlds. Turkey will host a fourth round of talks between Somaliland and Somalia in January 2014, led by President Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud Silanyo and President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, respectively. The new consulate office in Hargeisa will assist in maintaining momentum for the Dialogue process. The next round of talks between the governments of Somaliland and Somalia, due to take place in Turkey in January 2014, will cover a range of issues, including the management of air space, cooperation on the fight against terrorism, piracy, serious crime, illegal fishing and the dumping of toxic waste at sea, as well as economic development focusing on the encouragement of international aid, trade and investment. The FM also said the Turkish government will open a consulate in Hargeisa while Somaliland is also expected to open in Ankara in the near future, he also revealed the Turkish government to will increase the educational Scholarships to Somaliland Students. Through greater diplomatic and economic engagement, historic relations between Somaliland and Turkey, which have spanned centuries, will only deepen further."

itself bad and after the WW2 with the cost of 60 million deaths Europe came together and formed a civilized Pan-Europe with a single currency and foreign policy, if Siyad Barre messed up Somaliweyn ideology, why you condemn the ideology itself. Would u support an independent Somaliland and Somalia and Djibouti working together on the same terms of the European union. And later the other Somali inhabited regions to be championed by the other 3. And than to build a gallant and vibrant Somali peninsula based on trust equality and partnership, and let Somali solidarity shine across the Horn of Africa do you think that is feasible ever in our life times. The difference between Europe and the Somali peninsula is that Somalia claims Somaliland. Germany no longer claims France to be part of their 3rd reich and they were able to restore the trust The past feudal conflicts and animosities makes it impossible to build a win win situation for the generations to come. The Europeans are smart precise they learned from their mistakes they came back stronger than ever and are one of the super powers on the planet.

Wiil iyo abtigiis ba labada taalo taagay Maxammad siyaad bare iyo Ileey, marka they are not that different.

Waxad maqlayseen Somaliland wey duushay the past 2 decades wataaan si dhab a u duushay hadaba:D

Burahadheer never take the defeated lot to serious trust me when they were in power, in the 80s they had a bigger mouth telling every one that their rule over the Somali republic is unbreakable. Now and days they love to masquerade under the so called notion of Somalinimo, which till this day no one has a clear definition of what Somalinimo actually means. They were the same folks who tried to use Ethiopian troops on the Abu warlords in Southern Somalia. It Was Muhammad Ali the General who shook their fragile foundation when the WSLF broke down along tribal lines and smashed their little WSLF movement funded by regime in Mogadishu at that time.

Classified;987477 wrote: Absolutely! Why not? I think the TPLF and the ONLF can work together for the betterment of both communities. Amongst the issues the ONLF should bring to the table for the negotiations/compromises should be the immediate arrest of members of Abdi-iley Administration. The administration in Jigjiga should be dissolved. ONLF should take over Kililka Shanaad administration and down the road (10-20 years), a referendum should be held for Independence. I dont think that is reachable do you know that Ileey told the highest TPLF politicians that he must be included in what ever Talks the TPLF is going to have with the ONLF. Ina ileey considers him self the man who integrated the Somalis in Kilinka into the wider Ethiopia. Ileey has liyuu police who are loyal to him he is the most loyal EPRDF member of all the Kilils Presidents in Ethiopia. I dont think there is some one in the TPLF right now who can adopt and implement such a radical move and Meles is dead. The only way the TPLF is going to discard ina Ileey is if ONLF is a major threat to them. But ileey is doing their dirty job for them.

Somaliland to Sign Accord With Fourth Company on Oil Exploration Sunday, 24 November 2013 21:37 font size decrease font size increase font size Print Email Somaliland expects to sign an agreement with a fourth international energy company this week to begin exploring for oil in the semi-autonomous region, Energy Minister Hussein Abdi Dualeh said. An accord with the Middle East-based company, which Dualeh declined to identify, has been completed, he said in a phone interview on Nov. 21 from Somaliland. The other three companies already operating in the country are London-based Genel Energy Plc (GENL), RAK Gas LLC, owned by the government of Ras al-Khaimah in the United Arab Emirates, and Oslo-based DNO International ASA. (DNO) “All talks are concluded” with the fourth company, Dualeh said. “It’s just a matter of inking the deal, which hopefully is going to be this month.” Somaliland, situated on the tip of the Horn of Africa, declared independence from Somalia in 1991, though no country has officially recognized it as a sovereign state. Somaliland and the neighboring region of Puntland are part of a southward extension of the “lucrative geologic framework of the Arabian Gulf” that includes Saudi Arabia, according to Osman Salad Hersi, an associate geology professor at the University of Regina in Canada. Saudi Arabia is the world’s biggest oil producer. Previous attempts to encourage exploration in the region foundered because of perceptions among investors that Somaliland has the same security concerns as neighboring Somalia, where Islamist militants have been seeking to establish an Islamic state since at least 2006. ‘Deteriorating Security’ Last week, Genel Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward, the former CEO of BP Plc, announced the company was resuming operations two months after suspending exploration work in September because of a “deteriorating security situation.” Somaliland’s government has done a “full-blown security assessment” to assess the threat, Dualeh said. The U.K. Foreign Office advises against all travel in Somaliland because of the “high threat” that westerners face from terrorism and kidnapping, according to its website. The U.S. State Department warns its citizens to obtain kidnap and recovery insurance when traveling in the region. “There are no real threats, but nevertheless we decided to make sure that we apply any security level that international companies need to operate in Somaliland,” Dualeh said. “We provide full protection for the operation, not only for Genel but for other operating companies here.” Genel, the biggest oil producer in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq, is expected to need at least two months to put its logistics back in place before resuming exploration work next year, Dualeh said. Seismic work by the four companies is expected to be completed by the end of 2014, before drilling commences in 2015, Dualeh said. Genel is “very bullish” about finding oil in Somaliland, he said. “There’s a parallel between their successes in Kurdistan and successes we hope to have here in Somaliland.” Source: Bloomberg

READ: World powers strike historic deal on Iran's nuclear program Spokesman: Israel reserves the right to defend itself To be sure, there is no love lost between Iran and Israel. Iran, which in the past has questioned Israel's right to even exist, continues to push Tel Aviv's buttons with incendiary statements. Israel, which says it has the most to lose if Iran develops a nuclear bomb, has repeatedly warned the West to tread warily when dealing with Tehran. READ: White House releases deal details Iran deal 'important step forward' Iran nuclear deal reached Photos: Iran nuclear deal reached Photos: Iran nuclear deal reached So finding that their greatest ally, the United States, has struck an interim deal with Iran brought condemnation from Israeli lawmakers. "Israel cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and the world self-delusion," said Yuval Steinitz, minister of strategic and intelligence affairs responsible for international relations, and a member of the Knesset. Lawmakers stopped short of saying whether Israel would go it alone militarily, if the need arose. But Israeli officials told CNN's Ian Lee they would not rule out a strike against Iran -- and Netanyahu certainly didn't mince words. In a written statement, he said Israel "is not obliged to the agreement." "The regime in Iran is dedicated to destroying Israel and Israel has the right and obligation to defend itself with its own forces against every threat," he said. "I want to make clear as the prime minister of Israel, Israel will not let Iran develop a nuclear military capability." Israel bombed a reactor construction site in Iraq in 1981. 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Kerry said as the deal was announced in Geneva that Israel and the United States agree that Iran must not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. But Kerry said none of the world powers represented in Geneva believe that unrelenting sanctions can achieve that goal. He said the deal will make Israel safer by freezing some Iranian nuclear development and removing its stockpile of uranium enriched to 20% purity. Kerry also said military action, while still an option Obama would preserve, could not permanently solve the problem. Israeli leaders 'sleep with one eye open' It's hard for most Americans to understand why all Israeli prime ministers are said to sleep with one eye open, said Aaron David Miller of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. He was a Middle East negotiator in Democratic and Republican administrations. America, he says, has "nonpredatory neighbors to its north and south and fish to its east and west." Israel, on the other hand, is a small Jewish state surrounded by antagonistic Muslim neighbors. Israel cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and the world self-delusion. Israeli intelligence minister "I don't think Iran wants nuclear weapons to launch a first strike against Israel. But it's impossible to ignore, let alone trivialize, Israeli security concerns and vulnerabilities in this regard, particularly in the face of Iran's rhetoric, regional ambitions and support for terrorism over the years," he said. Indeed, the verbal attacks have been relentless. Even as the P5+1 met in Geneva, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei unleashed another volley last week in Tehran. Khamenei said Israeli officials "cannot be even called humans" and referred to Netanyahu as "the rabid dog of the region." 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Israel's ties with Iran were chiefly motivated by "a single word with three letters -- O-I-L," he said. But the Islamic revolution that overthrew the Shah of Iran marked a turning point. The Islamic Republic, led by Shiite clerics in the predominantly Shiite nation, saw Israel as an illegitimate state with no right to exist, certainly not amid Muslim nations. Despite harsh rhetoric, though, then-Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini "didn't want to get into a confrontation with Israel," said Ervand Abrahamian, a professor of Iranian and Middle Eastern history at Baruch College of the City University of New York. One reason: Israel and Iran had a common enemy in Iraq, a country that fought an eight-year war with Iran. Israel even supplied weapons to Iran to help it fight. In the years after the Iran-Iraq war, however, Israel began to regard Iran and its support of global terror as a chief threat. 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