^ What foreign hotels? This is Mogadishu, Somalia. I never knew Xamar was foreign.

Originally posted by xox ogaal: Jaylaani 'cause i said something about you know (hmmmm) let think. we don't really need to admire our leader we can tell when they are wrong.....Taako knows what i'm talking about so i don't have to repond to his kind .(some of us put Qabiil frist. Now tell me if that is proper english saxiib. Be honest. Jaylaani Wallahi you are a funny character. Iran has nothing to do with anything. It was a metaphor. However I think I am taking the piss, since nobody in the face of the earth has been so relenting like yourself. I bid you a farewell.

^ Ali yusuf was a man who's claim to fame i.e Hobyo sultanate, came to be in the late 19th century. The Somali caste system surely is a lot older then that.

Jaylaani Ahmednajid is the President of Iran. Abdiqasim salad was president of the TNG Somalia.

^ I suggest you look at the realities of today and stop being in denial. Somalia is under one rule save the secessionist dream of Riyaale and co. You believe something we all believe what we want. But some of us no the realities that Somalia is not divisive and that clouds the judgement of some like you and your comrade Jaylaani.

^ Dude are you slow? Ahmednajid is a metaphor to the position of Abdiqasim. Either you are playing dumb or actually are. Whatever is the case you are one weird dude.

^ It's good to know sxb. I don't want any fishy movements coming from you or any other dudes

^ Sxb Xox ogaal. Speak in legible english. I honest to God didn't comprehend what you are saying. Pres Yusuf or PM geedi are not here to be anybodies enemies. They are both Somali and they are hear for reconciliation.

^ Dude all that was there was government troops and the PM and his minister. If he goes outside to a forum with crazy suicide bombers especially with some lunatic thinking he is going to heaven for killing the president. Why would you do that? Most Presidents discuss things in a building. Remember what happened to Riyaale when he last visited Laascanood? As to Somaliland ministers and cabinet. The article says this. You do the math. We can go back and forth all day. I have no time for that. But the Madaxtooyaada collects tons of dollars. Even if he collects 400k. That is more then any african president and on Par with GEORGE DUBYA. Which is crazy. "Waxa dawladu leedahay inka badan toban (10) wasiira dawle. In taas oo Wasiira dawle mid qudha ayaa leh miisaaniyad u gaar ah. Kaasina was wasiira dawlaha wasaarada dibeda (foreign) waxana loo qoondiiyay $10,387. "

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: ^I dont' think Horn supports A/Yusuf.Before you joined this site,did you know that Horn was a supporter of the ICU,did you know that? Mr.Horn supports the TFG,because of another man..which would be col.Barre Huraale.The same man,that said he would use Jews in their aid to accomplish their 'goals'. FYI,sister Rahima probably hates daba dhilif Geedi and loves Sh.Shariif,you tell me why? they are the same sub clan aren't they,hmmm so I wonder why.That is where idealogy,believe,principle come in. You are lucking that part kiddo. You are very confused. You asked why wouldn't Rahima support Geedi. It is the same as asking why wouldn't Horn support Abdullahi. They are about as far away as the previous two individuals. Why support Shariif when you have adeer Cagoweyne, Cadoow, Tooji Bacadle, Aweys Indhacadde, Ceyrow in the ICU and some more important then the Good Shariif? You know if she can call dukes news postings disgusting. She can be accused of having tribalistic support for her above adeers. Which is hypocritical and disgusting.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Thanks for the pics....pics are worth thousands words,so may be i should believe you instead.You being confused fellow from Xamar not. Riyale Kahin' budget is around $386,000,that is his personel budget.You cant' prove your claims of him earning 2 million,so just drop it. Abudllahi Yusuf should be out giving speeches and being applauded by the people,we haven't seen that, have u? He is stuck in Villa somalia,flies in under heavy Ethiopian guard,comes back under the same condition,then he goes to bed feeling so scared. Hey I didn't say the following is messed up. But somaliland.org From Somaliland.org Haddaynu u soo noqono waxbarashada $1,062,928 iyo caafimaadka $650,890 marka la isku darro waxa ay u dhigmaan miisaaniyada Madaxtooyada $1,703,927. Do cooks in the North West get paid more the Teachers, Doctors etc combined? :confused: Anyhow as to the highlight and your concern about the president giving speeches he has and in Xamar. Madaxweyne Cabdulaahi Yuusuf oo la kulmay bulshada reer Muqdisho isagoo ugu baaqay wadashaqeyn iyo taageero loo fidiyo Dowlada Markii ugu horeysay kulan bulshada qeybaheeda kala duwan ee reer Muqdisho oo uu la kulmo Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyada Somalia ayaa waxa uu ka dhacay Xarunta Madaxtooyada Villa Somalia ee magaalada Muqdisho. Dadweyne aad u tiro badan oo ka kooban Culuma'udiin, Siyaasiin, Aqoonyahano, Saraakiil, Haween, Dhalinyaro iyo bulshada inteeda kale ayaa waxay ka qeyb qaateen kulan si weyn loo soo agaasimay loogana hadlayey sidii dowladda loo taageeri lahaa isla markaana wax loola qaban lahaa.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: The ICU isn't the only one you accused. Go back and check your post again. Abdi Qasim was the president of the ICU? wow that is news to me. These guys were bigger than I thought. BTW, Is that the reason you're supporting the TFG? Others did it for their uncles so why not me? Is that your attitude for future SOMALIA? Way idiin dhamaatay hadaa. Everybody and there mom knows that Abdiqasim would play the Ahmednajid for the ICU once they 'captured' Somalia proper. He was the Ahmednajid to Ayatollah Aweys if you catch my drift. He was the main money man behind the ICU. He installed Yusuf Siyad Indhacadde as Shabellaha hoose Governor. He receive millions of dollars from the world community, of which the Arab league was very prominent. Where do you think this money went? Partly towards giving weapons to Indacadde to be the 'Sheik' he was in Marka etc. Red sea All things are in play. As to your understanding of my metaphor of Yey towards Hornafrique is too show you why your statement of sister Rahima supporting Geedi for tribal reasons. Which to your ignorance of the south is as far off as Horn supporting Abdullahi yusuf for clannish reasons. A non starter.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: quote:Originally posted by Taako Man: Brown They accuse President yusuf of corruption, but they have no proof. You can't have your cake and eat it. Somalia is not a corrupt entity compared to the break away enclave. If your going to point out my house, why can't I towards you? I wonder why there is this double standard. Many here would criticize Sheik shariif and the other side of the coin would take that debate to Geedi and saying he's useless. You don't see me advocating for them not having an opinion. Buddy, you always seem to talk about 'your cake'.Can you tell me where your cake is? Rahima is from Xamar,Che from Xamar,and many many more nomads here,I gues Xamar isnt their cake right? AS for as I know,i am with them and you are against them.Their cake was the ICU,yours is Puntland.I want them to enjoy their 'cake',so who is the hater here of the two of us? Dont' throw stones when you live in glass house sir. Most members from SOL lived in Xamar. I know I did. I lived in Xamar for a couple of years as a child then towards the west. Cake= 'Somaliland' in this case. You criticize Somalia. But you don't want 'Somaliland' to be criticized. Do you follow? If you criticize I shall criticize.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: ^It says madaxtooyada,not madaxweynaha.Which would include his guards,the cook,the gardener,the other ministers in the madaxtooyada,so once again learn to differciate things.Look closer,or think better which ever you need at the moment. My prove,is that your daba dhilif adeero,the other daba dhilifs are stuck in Villa somalia.There have numerous protests against this daba dhilif regime.You have seen the pictures both from back home and abroad and how majority of Somalis feel about it. My prove is out there,no need to google articles,as this is happening NOW,so once again tune to the news.That is my prove. Yeah I really believe his cooks and his gardener and his guards are sharing 1.7 million dollars (All figures US) As to your point about protester. A couple hundred tire burners and problem makers from Ifka Xalin area of Xamar are not 2 million people. This below right here is Xamar. BTW where do you expect the President to be? drinking a coffee in the local shop? The President is in Villa Somalia because that is where a president in Somalia stays. He is either in diplomatic missions amongst the world community. Or he is in Villa Somalia talking with members of the somali community.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Brown no question,but I am going after this dude' exeggeration. Taako Man, it clearly said Riyale earns exactly $385,876,which is alot of money offcourse.But no where near of the 2million dollars you have thrown out there.I gues you can't read,can't you? As for for the TFG,I didn't make any numbers,it's the way it is.I think you know it already. The way it is? PROVE THE WAY IT IS OR DON'T SAY ANYTHING. Are you forgetting Riyaale's play money aka his hidden salary? From Somaliland.org Haddaynu u soo noqono waxbarashada $1,062,928 iyo caafimaadka $650,890 marka la isku darro waxa ay u dhigmaan miisaaniyada Madaxtooyada $1,703,927.

Brown They accuse President yusuf of corruption, but they have no proof. You can't have your cake and eat it. Somalia is not a corrupt entity compared to the break away enclave. If your going to point out my house, why can't I towards you? I wonder why there is this double standard. Many here would criticize Sheik shariif and the other side of the coin would take that debate to Geedi and saying he's useless. You don't see me advocating for them not having an opinion.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Taako Man, Qabiil affliation aside which seems to be the only principle which you function.Can you give any reasons why one should support the TFG? No qabiil,simply tell us the quality of its members and what they have done thus far. Besides if Rahima was all about Qabiil,she would have supported Geedi who hold a 'high'post in the 'government'Bacadle is just 'simple'shiekh. I would have supported Buuba,rather than Riyale who doesn't belong in my 'qabiil'.You see this is nac nac,we need principles.The ICU standed for something,what does the TFG stand for? Your understanding of all things south is horrible. Rahima has as much to do with Geedi as Hornafrique has to do with Ina Yey. Secondly, Your support for Buuba is superseded by all your adeers who happen to be 90% of 'Somaliland'. Something you can never have for Somalia. Somalia is for all Somalis. 'Somaliland' is a clan enclave.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: Originally posted by Taako Man: I can't say the same about Somaliland or the ICU which had the Security Minister, The Head of the ICU, Head of its military wing all from the Same sub sub clan. [/quote You made this claim... BTW, 12 members are too large. His SUB clan made less than 2 percent of all Somali population. [/QB] Abdiqasim = Chief financier, diplomatic President of the ICU Dahir Aweys = Spiritual leader. Indhacadde = defense minister Aden hashi Ceyrow= Military head (shabaab) You guys accuse the TFG of clannist sentiments. But where is substance?

Brown They accuse The TFG of corruption and doing nothing. Yet Somaliland including their leader has a higher salary then the total sum for EDUCATION AND HEALTH. How can you point the finger on Somalia when your enclave is worse then anybody else? President yusuf is a target of there malice. Yet they have no substance to prove there allegations. But I have substance to prove their governments mismanagement.

Brown Who are we to trust. Substantiated documents or 'hebel hebel' said such and such. Unless you can document this then your word is as good as zero.

Mujahid red sea When you do the accusing you have to prove your accusation. This is not the salem witch trials were you can just burn people without substance. As I said I have proof of Riyaale do you have proof of the honorouble men Buuba, Geedi, Yusuf?

Originally posted by Jaylaani: quote:Originally posted by Taako Man: Jaylaani Last I remember Dahir Riyaale kahin is getting paid 2 million US dollars a year. Thats really getting paid. Villas in Dubai, Dire Dawa, Djoubti city. I see a trend D ON'T YA? You didn’t see me here supporting Rayaale so please stop the madness. Are you telling me A/Y, Geedi, Buubaa and others have a fix salary? C’mon man lets be real. Every single penny handed to them so far on behalf of the Somali people are pocketed by these wolves. Don’t insult my intelligence man. Your doing the accusing. YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE STEALING MONEY ! red sea This is Somalilands budget 2005. If you can see "Qasriga Madaxtooyaada and W/Madaxtooyada " are about 2.1 million. That is roughly 10 percent of the Somaliland Budget. Imagine Dubya with a 200 billion dollar play money, since that is 10 percent of the US budget :eek:

^ What facts? In the North West region. Save the President (Who is getting paid mashallah) everyone which is in the 80-90% range of one clan. So why are you claiming Col yey is something that he is not? There are but 12 parliamentaries from 'his subclan' out of 275. Do you see the percentage their?

Originally posted by nabadshe: What about kenya dont You think it was benefiting fom the lawlesness, All NGOs are located in Nairobi. all the foreign currency was being spent there. Not to mention the Employment oportunity they gained from this lawlesness .While you General are bussy Shouting down with clan courts, Onyango and Kamau In nairobi are earning easy money and tittles of somalia Experts. How genuine are they about a peacefull somalia? I think Kenya would rather have 100's of thousands of Somalis they host annually to be represented by a Somali governmment rather then themselves. When Somalia has development. The rest of the region will benefit.

Cambarro Can you substantiate your claims? Cite, Proof whatever sister. Anyhow 2000 dollars is double what I remember they make. if I remember it was 1000 US dollars per month. Which is still a lot in Somalia. but not as jaylaani says 'investment worthy' Jaylaani Last I remember Dahir Riyaale kahin is getting paid 2 million US dollars a year. Thats really getting paid. Villas in Dubai, Dire Dawa, Djoubti city. I see a trend D ON'T YA? Brown Nice spin. Your getting better at your propoganda.