A&T, 4.5 is just a silly system remember it was made in djibouti a very biased country which hates somaliland and fears a succesful somaliland before 2004 no such thing as 4.5 existed, if you want to know who is large and who is not just check censuses, maps, documents etc, the CIA shows how populated the regions of SNM such as Burco, Hargeysa, Sanaag are, infact Hargeysa region alone has more population then pirateland, and remember mudug is shared, marka "MJ's iyo inta madax-madoow ayaa siman", is simply a myth you can take it with a grain of salt. :rolleyes:

Abtigiis & Tusbax, don't get ahead of yourself sxb we know the 4.5 thing was created in djibouti to undermine somaliland you should check out the CIA population census and documents apparently the USC people are the largest and the second largest group are the SNM in somalia, you can even check the last somalia census in 1975 that is why siad bare was not happy with the census and tried everything to hide it anyways haadi tiiro wax ku taari lahayd already ethiopia baad iska so xooraynlahaydh.

Ibtisam, my point was simply buhoodle is not under the protection of somaliland so the burden of the blame is not on somaliland but rather puntland, it's like al shabab controlled areas and xisbul islam, if something happens for example in barawa then it's al shabab's responsibility to do something and protect them like the recent handover of weapons of barawa citizens to al shabab, the same goes for beledweyne in xisbul islam, somaliland can't take the full responsibility to protect a place that they don't control fully that was my point, it's not us against them mentality but rather talking about how limited is somaliland's responsibility and control over the areas are, i believe in my personal opinion that somaliland shouldn't feel ashamed because they were not responsible for the affairs in buhoodle but the man who goes by the name xaklo-toosiye and faroole who claims buhoodle is part of them, don't you think if buhoodle are part of puntland then why don't the puntland state help them? it's not somalilands fault what happened in buhoodle but simply a misunderstanding between the ethiopian border troops and some impatient militias in buhoodle so they are responsible for what happened in buhoodle they and the ethiopians.

Buhoodle is currently the responsibility of puntland since they claim to be part of puntland and vice versa, you never see the ethiopians attacking las anod, erigavo, hargeysa, burco because it's under somaliland and we protect it, but don't expect somaliland to protect a rebel stronghold what kind of thinking is that, what is the point somaliland troops risking their lifes just to protect people who properly don't even appericiate their protection? There is simply no agreement that says in the time of a attack from forgien troops that somaliland will protect buhoodle, matter infact the responsibility is on faroole and puntland to protect buhoodle which they failed the people, if buhoodle was fully under somaliland and considered to be part of somaliland then that would be a different story where the burden of the blame to protect buhoodle would be on somaliland. A good example is when las anod security situation was so bad and even bombings were taking place, the somaliland adminstration knowing the responsibility to protect las anod from terrorists and bring law and order was on their shoulders which is why they captured several men who were part of the remote bombings which was happening in las anod few months back which they succeded in bringing peace law and order to the place that is what i call a real adminstration.

Cowke, the people of somaliland are united strongely and they are well aware they have many enemies, the habro know who their common foe is at the end of the day so don't get shocked.

Beer- Gaal, kashmiir = the disputed places , las anod is not disputed for now it's under somaliland control.

This is something to do with buhoodle not being happy about the ethiopian border patrol soldiers inspecting the trucks that are coming into buhoodle from the hawd and out of buhoodle, as we know ethiopia is suspicious of buhoodle militias open support for ONLF, the ethiopian patrol border soldiers have been inspecting the cars for 3 days the militia of buhoodle started getting impatient and fired the first shots on the border patrol soldiers which in turn reacted by invading and fighting inside buhoodle town that is a short summary of what the fighting in buhoodle was mostly about, although the fighting in bal-dhac, widhwidh is another story which involves somaliland troops.

Originally posted by *ANWAR*: Somalilanddiid hard to say it loooool Nabadiid will be crushed indeed and gobolaada bariga ee somaliland will once and for all prosper.

Libaan, his not dead sxb his wounded and taken to a hospital in burco orod so hubso warka.

Garowe bii joogaan wali baan maqlay.

Che -Guevara, mark aan iri "BM21ka lala dhiciin doono kashmiir." dee waxan ka waday nabadiid rebelksa oo rabshaada wada ma ciid ka waday? stop being emotional, i don't have hatred for the people of SSC - also known as gobolada bariga ee somaliland i am myself from there.

Safa, lets not kid ourselfs who supports mohammed omar, buuba, sifir other then TFG?

Burco:Taageerayaal Tiro badan oo ku soo biiray Xisbiga UCID kana soo Baxay Xisibiga UDUB ayaa soo dhoweyn ballaadhan loogu sameeyey Hotel Barwaqo ee magalada Burco. Burco-(HWN) Taageerayaal ka soo baxay Xisbiga talada haya ee Udub ee gobolka Togdheer oo haween u badan ayaa maanta ku biiray Xisbiga Mucaardka ah ee Ucid ,kuwaas oo Xaflad soo dhaweyn ah Xisbiga Ucid ugu qabtay magaalada Burco ee xarunta gobolka Togdheer. Xafladan oo ka dhacday Huteelka Barwaaqo ee magaalada Burco ayaa waxa ka soo qaybgalay Madaxda Sare ee Xisbiga Ucid Gudoomiyaha Jaamacada Burco Masuuliyiinta Ucid ee Gobolka Togdheer iyo marti sharaf kale . Gudoomiyaha Ucid ee gobolka Togdheer Mr. Cismaan Afgaab oo Munaasibadaasi ugu horeyn ka hadlay ayaa sheegay dhalinyaradan ku soo biirtay in ay yihiin kuwii ugu badnaa ee mudooyinka danbe ku soo biira xisbigiida Ucid kana soo baxa Udub. Waxaanu Mr.Cismaan sheegay dalku in uu u baahanyahay Isbedel wayn oo dalka ka dhaca oo aan ku koobnayn shakhsi kaliya isagoo arintaa ka hadlaayana waxa uu yidhi iyo arimo kale. “Dalku maanta uma baahna in Riyaale oo qudha in la bedelo balse waxa uu u baahanyahay in isbdel balaadhani ka dhaco maxaayeelay maanta nabad waynu haysanaa balse waxa ina ragaadiyay maamul xumo Xukuumada maanta jirtaana mudadii ay joogtay waxay qabatay ma jirto maantana in la doorto ayay doonaysaa markaa waxaan idiin leeyahay Codkiina Ucid siiya “sidaasi ayuu yidhi Cismaan Afgaab . Waxaanu intaasi ku daray Gudoomiyaha Ucid ee gobolka Togdheer isagoo hadalkiisa sii wata maruu ka warbixinaayay Axsaabta Ucid tartanku ka dhexeeyo sida Udub iyo Kulmiye. “Labada Xisbi ee nala tartamaaya marka aan ka hadlo, horta Udub waynu argnay oo wayna soo martay ,Gudoomiyaha Kulmiyena Mudane Siilaano wixii uu qaban lahaaba hadii la doorto horta askar ayaa ku xeeran ee u duceeya in Ilaahay ka dulqaado markaa dhalinyaro waxa laydiinka baahanyahay in aad codkiina u fiirsataan maxaayeelay isbedelka aynu doonayno haduu noqdo Kud ka guur oo qanjo u guur waa mud subxaano leh . Gudoomiyaha Jaamacadda magaalada Burco isla markaana ka tirsan Gudiga fulinta Xisbiga Ucid Profesor Cabdiraxmaan Jaamac Ducaale oo isna halkaasi ha hadlay ayaa sheegay xisbiga Ucid in uu yahay mid umada u dhexeeya isla markaana ay doonayaan in ay suuliyaan hadii la doorto Taariikh uu sheegay in ay ku sifoobeen axsaabta ay la tartamayaan sadaa awgeedna ay Udub ku fashilantay hugaanka dalka. Waxaanu umada reer Somaliland usoo jeediyay in ay codkooda wax ku dhisaan oo ay doortaan cida hugaamin karta ee dalka iyo dadka wax u qaban karta cadaaladna ku hugaaminkarta oo uu sheegay in uu yahay Xisbiga Ucid ,waxaanu Gudoomiyuhu u mahadnaqay taageerayaasha ku soo biiray xisbigooda. Aadan Maxamed Mire Waqaf oo isna Xafladaasi ka hadlay ayaa sheegay Xisbiga Udub in uu la majaro habaabay masuuliyadii la saaray .hasa yeeshee maanta loo baahanyahay in taa la bedelo waxaanay ku xidhantahay gacmaheena oo loo baahanyahay in aad codkeena siisaan Xisbiga Ucid oo himiladiisu tahay bulsho Cadaalad iyo horumar ku dhisan. Waxaanu asxaabta kale ee la tartamaysa usoo jeediyay in ay iska ilaaliyaan xamaasada badan ee ay doorashooyinka kaga qaybqaadanayaan ,taas oo uu sheegay in ay amniga waxyeeli karto. Aadan Mire waxa uu markii danbe hadalkiisa ku soo gabogabeeyay oo uu kula dardaarmay dadweynaha reer Burco oo uu sheegay in waxbadan loo kalo sheekeeyay in ay midnimada iyo isku duubnida ilaaliyaan..

Safam but Bubaa, Sifir, Mohammed Omar don't have their own militias and nobody really supports them they are individuals, but xaabsade and cali sandule have big supporters and followers in sool and las anod , and abdisamad shiire puntland vice president has also support from his group that is the difference.

Safa, you are denying the reality on the ground, why do you think Xaabsade's folks support somaliland, including Cali Sandule's group support somaliland? while the vice president of puntland Abdisamad Shire which his group is from xudun support puntland?

Safa, nobody is occupying the lands you are mentioning it's in the righthands of pro somaliland soolians such as Xaabsade and Cali Sandule, it's up to xaklo-toosiye if he wants to cause chaos and suffering for his people though, it's clear sool is divided into those who are with Somaliland, SSC, Puntland, xaklotoosiye will be lucky to even stay in buhoodle let alone SSC.

Safa, i am well aware riyaale was part of siad bare government laakinse his a changed man and more enlightened this present day and he was forgiven by the people of somaliland in his small role in the government, but we know xaklo-toosiiye is just jealous of Xaabsade & Cali Sandules lavish lifestyle in hargeysa

Safa, somaliland's case is very different and a long story nothing compared to this little confused power hungary militia who would give up their little fighting for 1 night dinner, ministerial posts in garowe or hargeysa in a matter of minutes.

Those nabadiid militias are just power hungary.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Not in Million Years .......... My manifesto list is better than UDUB's don't you think....

Peace Action, i am not who you think i am , besides my number 10 manifesto isn't talking about - pakistani kashmiir region but the somaliland kashmiir region and i want to help restore law and order and put the long last standing conflict into halt is there a problem?

Excellent post.

Originally posted by sahal: Vote for Faysal 1. Caagad dambe caano laguma shuban doono 2. Baradho iyo kaabaj wan iyo orgi le'eg ayaa sanaag laga soo saarayaa 3. 5 biriij baa hargeysa laga dhisayaa (tiiba 3 bilood baa lagu dhisyaa) 4. xoolaha burco USA, EUROPE iyo Australia ayaa loo dhoofin doonaa 5. Neefka eriga ah. labo fuusto oo batrool ah ayuu la qiimo noon doonaa 6. Pepsi cola warshad ah ayaa la furayaa War this topic is not about UCID's leader, it's about M.S.I.K party ee meesha hanaga qasin.

I though there was already a 8 Million coco cola factory in aw-barkhadle? or is this another 1.