Che -Guevara;983120 wrote: I thought it was out today hehe Depends where you are New York and a few other cities opened last week, Boston and other select cities this weekend. Everywhere else on November 1st.

Naxar Nugaaleed;983114 wrote: Can't wait to see it. Believe it comes out on the first of November although am sure it's already showing in Ny and LA Yes, it's showing here in Boston as part of the limited release but opening nationwide on November 1st. Classified;983116 wrote: And they say "slavery has been abolished in America". People don't realize, but such movies like this is meant to give pride to the younger White generations and show the younger "Black" generations their place in history and in humanity. Huh? It's quite the the opposite, films like this shed light on a dark chapter of US history that most people feel detached from and are painfully ignorant about. It's absurd that you think white people portraying slave owners and racists and torturing slaves in the antebellum South is supposed to give white people today a sense of pride, if anything what these films do is make viewers deeply uncomfortable about race in American history, disrupt the notion of romantic Southern plantations populated by happy slaves (something you DID see in older Hollywood films like Gone With the Wind) and force people to see the barbarity of slavery and the humanity of the enslaved. In the same way the miniseries Roots was a watershed cultural event for bringing the history of slavery to American televisions, this film has the potential to be (and is, from everything I've heard so far) one of the greatest films on American slavery ever made. This year also looks like it may even make history for the number of black actors nominated for Oscars, with films like The Butler, 12 Years a Slave, Captain Philips, etc all getting Oscar buzz. Classified;983116 wrote: Hollywood never makes any movies with famous actors depicting how Fircoon enslaved the Jews or how different African empires once had European/White slaves. Food for thought. Sure there are (Charlton Heston in the Ten Commandments comes to mind)... but none of those examples are nearly as important or central to the US context as the enslavement of black people was, so you have no point.

Abbaas;983102 wrote: I did watch Django Unchained and i should say it was great to see, i don't know if i'm going to see this one because i'm this time into Action | Adventure | Fantasy/sci-fi movies like X-men & Avatar e.t.c not reality Films. Hadda xitaa raadis baan ku jiraa si aan u helo similar movies . Yes, it's definitely more of a film for people who like historical drama and strong acting performances. I like the movies you mentioned too, but sometimes I like the heavier films too

Alpha Blondy;983100 wrote: someone is rich. caajib. modesty is a virtue, abti. It's not rich, that's life in qurbaha and the expenses associated with the cost of living here. Have you forgotten?

Supposed to be the best movie of the year... anyone else planning to see it? I'm hoping to squeeze some time in during the week to go. I've read Solomon Northup's memoir before and I like Steve McQueen's other films, so I'm looking forward to seeing this film.

When I saw the link was from the Ethiopian government, I assumed it would be the distinction between Somali nationals and ethnic Somalis (like those in kilika shanaad, who are citizens of Ethiopia). But they say ethnicity here, so it makes no sense.

Tallaabo;983052 wrote: These prices are absurd, aren't they? Yes they are, and why a lot of people are buying homes further and further away from the city, where homes are STILL expensive but not absurdly so. There is no way of buying a house with savings alone anymore, so the question is mortgaging vs. renting. Also Alpha... houses aren't that cheap in Hargeisa either, so get outta here with that $10k. That won't even cover land there.

Tallaabo;983045 wrote: This house in Britain costs more than $1.5 million This bungalow in Toronto sold for close to $1.2 million:

Tallaabo;983036 wrote: It may be vile to you but not to those watching him and many others who see it just as a harmless entertainment. Actually some view sports such as football, the game you love as hard-core pornography:p Few things are more obviously homoerotic than sports, especially wrestling/MMA

Alpha Blondy;983030 wrote: in my world $10,000 will suffice, thanks. what sort of house costs $400k Prof. Saffz? taking a mortgage out is a confirmation of being reer galbeed. it's haram. it proves to me and all other self-respecting persons that y'all are bonkers. what's wrong with y'all, baal? can't y'all invest this dosh in y'alls homelands? aren't y'all aware of the huge potential to build y'all's dream house for next to nothing? i'm not surprised by y'all's ignorance. wayoow....because y'all are all about 2.4 children, a car, a pet - preferably a cat and a mortgage. DISGUSTING. lol $10k is less than what my parents had to pay to put in new flooring in like two rooms last month. $400k is cheap for a house, average property in Toronto is over $500k I believe. You'd be surprised by what a million dollar home looks like.

Alpha Blondy;983024 wrote: i don't understand people who take mortgages out. it's foolish. just pay it in cash. Do you have $400k lying around?

Just watched the first episode, well done Professor Gates! A little iffy about his analysis of slavery in Africa, but overall quite good. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

Good effort, but a little stiff in the hips and his booty poppin needs work. 6/10

Brilliant from beginning to end.

Cadale;982943 wrote: whats the special shakes? ma subag xoolo baa? lol nah, I remember my aunt telling me they're sold in stores and that women she knows have been taking them. Maybe something similar to Boost or Ensure, on top of their regular meals? Horta does anyone know when fatness became attractive in Somali culture, rather than the traditional ideal of a curvy/shapely woman (thick, but not huge)? Seems recent.

Haatu;982937 wrote: Cayil lama naco, lama diidi karo, waa deeq Ilaah Safferz no need to kill yourself with all the running dee Inaba caadhi maaha But seriously... there are women who drink special shakes to get fatter in Hargeisa. Bleached skin and obese is the look.

And Gawker's editor's piece after today's Toronto Star article: The Toronto Police Department Watched Me Watch Rob Ford Smoking Crack Five months ago, I flew to Toronto to meet a crack dealer. We hung out together briefly in a car, he showed me a video on his iPhone of the mayor of Toronto smoking crack cocaine, and then he split. Subsequent events unfolded, and for reasons that escape me and make me fundamentally question my settled views on Canada and Canadian-ness, Rob Ford is still the mayor of Toronto. Anyway, it turns out the cops were watching us the whole time. It was, frankly, a little unnerving to be hanging out with a twitchy crack dealer in the parking lot of a large building devoted to low-income housing (even though, this being Canada, it was nicer and cleaner than most Manhattan residential towers). So to learn, via the Toronto Star's Jayme Poisson, that the crack dealer who was showing me the video was the subject of a Toronto Police Department surveillance operation during our meeting is rather comforting in retrospect. I did not know this at the time, but the crack dealer I met with is named Mohamed Siad. He has since been arrested in a broad sweep of Somali-Canadian youths purportedly involved in the drug-and-gun trade. And according to a Toronto Police Department surveillance report obtained by Poisson, a team was watching Siad at the very moment we were meeting. They apparently suspected that I was there to purchase a gun from him. From the Star: It was Tuesday, May 14, and police had learned Siad was to be involved in a possible firearms deal. They’d covertly followed him from his nearby apartment and planned to wait for a transaction, then arrest everyone involved, according to a police surveillance report.... As it turns out, Siad’s meeting with that “unknown party” was the same day, place and time that John Cook, the editor of U.S.-based website Gawker, met with two men trying to sell the Ford “crack video.” (Cook has seen a picture of Siad and believes he was the man who played him the video.)... While the report offers no details about the cellphone up for sale, it does give a time-stamped sequence of Siad’s movements: 2:53 p.m.: The police crew follows Siad as he drives from his apartment on Richgrove Dr. to the nearby Dixon Rd. highrises. 3 p.m.: Siad parks his black Honda Civic underground at the apartment building at 370 Dixon Rd. 3:12 p.m.: Detectives learn Siad is selling a cellular phone, not a gun. 3:30 p.m.: Surveillance is discontinued for the afternoon and officers attend a debriefing. It's not clear from the Star report whether the cops knew that I was attempting to buy the cell phone, as opposed to just an old used iPhone. It's been reported that the cops knew about a purported video of Ford smoking crack before any reporters—me or the Star's Robyn Doolittle and Kevin Donovan—had seen it. It's also not clear exactly how the cops on the surveillance team learned, as they were watching Siad get into the car I was sitting in, that our meeting was about a phone and not a gun. Before our meeting, the tipster who brought me to meet Siad called him from his cell phone. Siad briefly came to the car, but left to go charge the phone's battery. During his absence, the tipster called him from his cell phone again. It seems likely that the cops were listening in on those calls, and heard Siad and the tipster discussing a phone. (It's illegal for Canadian newspapers to publish information about police wiretaps.) In other news from the Star, the crack house where Rob Ford smoked crack, where his childhood friend lives with his mother, and where he was photographed with three suspected gang members, two of whom were later shot in a gangland style hit, was under police surveillance earlier this year because it was regarded by the Toronto Police Department as "drug house." It's unclear whether they saw Ford there.

A lot happened while I was in Ethiopia and had limited internet access so this thread isn't as up to date as it was during the earlier days of Crackgate, but I'll continue posting updates again as usual Police may have watched Gawker ‘crack video’ meeting By: Jayme Poisson News reporter, Published on Thu Oct 24 2013 Six officers from Toronto police’s organized crime unit were watching suspected drug and gun dealer Mohamed Siad. It was Tuesday, May 14, and police had learned Siad was to be involved in a possible firearms deal. They’d covertly followed him from his nearby apartment and planned to wait for a transaction, then arrest everyone involved, according to a police surveillance report. The arrests didn’t happen. Siad, later revealed as the person peddling a video showing Mayor Rob Ford smoking what appears to be crack cocaine, was involved in a different type of transaction: The sale of “a cellular phone, not a gun,” the report says. As it turns out, Siad’s meeting with that “unknown party” was the same day, place and time that John Cook, the editor of U.S.-based website Gawker, met with two men trying to sell the Ford “crack video.” (Cook has seen a picture of Siad and believes he was the man who played him the video.) Two days later, Cook published his account of that meeting, including his viewing of a well-lit, clear 90-second cellphone video of the mayor smoking what appears to be crack cocaine and uttering homophobic and racist remarks. A few hours after that, the Star revealed that two of its reporters had seen the same video two weeks earlier. Ford has previously said he “cannot comment on a video that I have never seen or does not exist.” Neither Ford nor his staff members have responded to detailed requests from the Star for comment on this story. The surveillance report of the Gawker meeting reveals that six Toronto officers appear to have watched the unfolding of one of the biggest political scandals to ever hit Toronto. The meeting took place at the Dixon Rd. highrises that became the epicentre of June’s Project Traveller guns and gang raids. While the report offers no details about the cellphone up for sale, it does give a time-stamped sequence of Siad’s movements: 2:53 p.m.: The police crew follows Siad as he drives from his apartment on Richgrove Dr. to the nearby Dixon Rd. highrises. 3 p.m.: Siad parks his black Honda Civic underground at the apartment building at 370 Dixon Rd. 3:12 p.m.: Detectives learn Siad is selling a cellular phone, not a gun. 3:30 p.m.: Surveillance is discontinued for the afternoon and officers attend a debriefing. Gawker’s Cook told the Star this week that at 2:23 p.m. that day, the second man, who was trying to broker the video, picked him up at a nearby chain restaurant and drove him to the Dixon Rd. highrises to meet up with the video’s owner. From there, “it was probably an hour before we saw the video.” In his May 16 post, Cook recounted the conversation he had with the video’s owner (who he now believes is Siad) while they were sitting in an idling car. During the meeting the man said he had taken the video within the last six months. “You’re sure it’s crack?” Cook asked. “Yes.” “You’ve seen him smoke crack before?” “Yes. Gotta jet.” When Siad showed the video to Star reporters Kevin Donovan and Robyn Doolittle, he made the same claims. The Star has been unable to verify Siad’s claims. On June 13, as part of the Project Traveller raids, police armed with a search warrant busted down the door of Siad’s apartment on Richgrove Dr. and arrested him. Police did not find the video there. As of about one month ago, police still hadn’t come into possession of it. After the crack video scandal erupted, Siad told people the video was “gone.” Neighbourhood sources say people in the Dixon Rd. community were angered by the media firestorm and wanted the attention to go away. Siad recently turned down a request by a Star reporter for a visit at Maplehurst detention centre, where he is being held while facing a slew of gun and drug charges. As for the American journalist almost caught up in a Canadian police sting: “I am pleased to know the watchful eye of the Toronto police department was looking out for me,” said Cook. Jayme Poisson can be reached at (416) 814-2725 or jpoisson@thestar.ca

^^ I didn't say it makes it okay to gossip, I said that to explain why Wadani's point (that NY's thread is how Somalis learn about the arrests of other Somalis in their communities) is incorrect.

Wadani;982910 wrote: The Somali community would not know about most of the people on that thread except for their family and a few neigbours if they weren't paraded on here by Nin-Yaaban, so Safferz point about it already being public is moot within this context. You know that's not true. Somalis talk *a lot* and follow these things closely within their own communities, I don't even live in Toronto anymore yet I haven't seen Nin-Yaaban post anything from TO that I haven't already heard about from someone back home. News gets around easily, and you're really reaching by overstating the importance of SOL. SP, what's the verdict?

Blackflash;982815 wrote: I quickly went through the thread in question and counted 127 different postings of different cases, the charges in 43 of those cases were either murder or attempted murder. Would any of you still raise issues over privacy if the thread highlighted only the most serious cases? It would still be a fairly large thread. I don't think most people who take issue with Nin-Yaaban's thread do so because of privacy concerns, it seems to be more out of the feeling that NY is airing out our dirty laundry and that criminality amongst Somalis is something that should be kept quiet and out of sight.

Hawdian;982814 wrote: Anybody who wants to sell their babyMonkey Contact me Asap . tnx. There was one at an Ikea in Toronto not too long ago, I'm sorry you missed him

Saalax;982810 wrote: Anigu kuma niciin even though you're very pro united former Somali republic(Somaliland and Somalia). Well I'm ambivalent about it, and I don't deny the political reality of Somaliland independence. SL is also the only region of the two that I can identify with, as both my parents were raised in Hargeisa. But I just don't like how you feel the need to insult southern Somalia in every other post you make. Anyway, that's a topic for another thread... and no I don't hate you Sanaag is my reer ayeeyo dee.

Saalax;982808 wrote: Safferz Are you still upset with me. Waan ku nacay

Che -Guevara;982639 wrote: When you says monkeys, I thought you were referring to Alpha. And when I saw the title, I thought it was another one of Saalax's racist posts about Somalia where he calls Somalis monkeys.