NASSIR;735404 wrote: Sure, Mr. ONLF. For a guy who advocates for a clannish organization that maims and kills innocent Somalis, I sure agree with you the state that was known as Somalia is in ruins and therefore needs your help and that of your community. But seriously Zack, You are being disingenous in here in that your notion to turn the other cheek smacks of indifference. Then let's scrap this whole clannish formula known as 4.5.. Somaliland=SNM, Puntland=SSDF, Maakhir, SSC, Galmudug, Awdal, and Hiiraanland are all clannish organizations, not just ONLF/Western Somalia. ONLF is at war only with Melez Zenawi and his Xabashi troops. Warlord Faroole and Warlord Siillaanyo kill and maim innocent Maakhiri and SSC Somalis, NOT Onlf. Example: Galgala Massacre and Kalshaale War. ONLF are freedom fighters like SSC and Maakhirland army in Galgala. Naasir, I agree with you the Somali people need a broad-based, multi-tribal, and fully representative Federal Government of Somalia. There should be at least one minister from Maakhirland in TFG. but where is Maakhirland??? I believe Maakhir people should have their own Maakhir Autonomous Regional State. Maakhir State and SSC State can work together for a shared goal like peace, development, and Somali Unity. since they so much in common, and they facing same threats and challenges. Maakhir will get Fedderal Minister in TFG, only when the President of Maakhir Regional State threatens to walk away from TFG Government, if Maakhiri demands are not met. Like Warlord Faroole. Muqdisho (RBC) Waxaa goor dhow si rasmi ah loo shaaciyey xubnaha golaha wasiirada DKMG Soomaaliya kuwaasoo mudooyinkanba la isku hayey isla markaana laga sugayey inuu raysul wasaare C/weli Gaas soo magacaabo. Sadly,Our tribal politics is jungle politics where the clans/subclans or regions that have warlords [so-called clan-states/clanfactions] are rewarded with a cabinet posts, and clans/regions that have no warlords are ignored .

General Duke;735369 wrote: Liibaan, as usual you are just getting angry for no reason. Mr Jama is no longer a Minister and needs to find himself useful employment. PM Abdiweli was deputy PM, when this man was Information Chief as for the Ministers today, at least a couple are US educated men who have known the PM for some time, others can fill up holes in the cabinet. What matters is, we have a new PM, a new Cabinet and Mr Jama is not the PM and not even in the cabinet. He should take this time and visit SSC regions,to get reacquainted with the folks back home oh I don’t think he is able to even do that. What a shame. Duke, the only one who is angry is you , I don't understand why you are hostile and defensive in every thread?? you have to resort to insults and bad language to make your point. You are a supporter of Warlord Faroole, Warlord Abdulahi Yusuf, and now PM Gaas. Why insult and attack all other Somali Politicians like President Shaikh Shariif, AbduKariim Jaamac , Xaglatoosiye, VP Ali Saberey, PM Farmaajo, PM Nuur Cadde, PM Cali Khaliif, President AbduQasim Salad Hassan, Abdi Gandhi, You don't have to get angry, if some one expose your lies, whether you like it or not Mr. Gaas is a weak individual who has NO say in TFG Government. The new PM is simply Sheikh Shareef tool/puppet. The fact is most of the new cabinet ministers are from Sheikh Shariif Camp, because President Sh. Shareef himself selected and hand picked all the new members of the cabinet, without consultation with the new PM. Also, today AbduKarim Hassan Jama Announced The New Cabinet List 'Liibaan';735226 wrote: AbduKarim Hassan Jama Announces New Cabinet CabduKariim Hasan Jaamac oo Ku Dhawaaqay Golaha Wasiirada ee Cusub ee Somalia Lasanod Online: Liiska Golaha Wasiirada DKMG Oo Lagu Dhawaaqay-(Maqal) HALKAN KA DHAGEYSO, CabduKariim Xasan Jaamac http://somali24.net/podcast/1787 [/b] Muqdisho,- Waxaa goor dhoweyd si rasmi ah loo shaaciyey xubnaha golaha Wasiirada DKMG Soomaaliya, kuwaasoo mudooyinkanba la isku hayey isla markaana laga sugayey inuu raysul wasaare C/weli Gaas soo magacaabo. Liiska golaha wasiirada waxaa shaaciyey oo saxaafadda u akhriyey wasiirkii hore ee warfaafinta C/kariin Xasan Jaamac, iyadoo wariyaashu ay ka sugayeen inuu raysul wasaare C/weli Gaas uu liiska u soo gudbiyo balse waxaa liiska saxaafadda u akhriyey C/kariin Xasan Jamac. Halkan Ka Dhageysa Wasiirkii Hore ee Warfaafinta C/Kariim Xasan Jaamac http://somali24.net/podcast/1787 Liiska golaha wasiirada cusub ayaa ka kooban 18 wasaardood, taasi oo la mid ah xukuumadii Farmaajo, laakiin dhamaantood waa shakhsiyaad ku cusub siyaasadda dalka.

General Duke;735245 wrote: ^^^What matters is that he ws removed regardless of how "powerful" or "important" he thought he was. He is Sharif AHmed tool, a tool that can not be appointed PM.. Fool Faroole and Abdulahi Amxaar are both Melez Zenawi tools, so what is your problem??? PM Gaas is Sheikh Shariif's puppuet and tool., Mr. Gaas didn't select 1 minister, meaning he has no influence or power within TFG.

A_Khadar;735244 wrote: I am not for any reason, and A/karin and his successor are cousins FYI.. My point is, c/karin's removal was Imaam Faroole's wish, but his replacement isn't his final wish.. Warlord Faroole will hate that President Sheikh Shariif selected SSC Supporter Dr. Ahmed Aidid Ibrahim, as minister of Education. Also Dr. Ahmed is A/Karim's cousin The new Education Minister Dr. Ahmed Aidid Ibrahim is from SSC State of Somalia, and NOT from Puntland or Somaliland.

AbduKarim Hassn Jama Announces New Cabinet CabduKariim Hasan Jaamac oo Ku Dhawaaqay Golaha Wasiirada ee Cusub ee Somalia Lasanod Online: Liiska Golaha Wasiirada DKMG Oo Lagu Dhawaaqay-(Maqal) HALKAN KA DHAGEYSO, CabduKariim Xasan Jaamac http://somali24.net/podcast/1787 [/b] Muqdisho,- Waxaa goor dhoweyd si rasmi ah loo shaaciyey xubnaha golaha Wasiirada DKMG Soomaaliya, kuwaasoo mudooyinkanba la isku hayey isla markaana laga sugayey inuu raysul wasaare C/weli Gaas soo magacaabo. Liiska golaha wasiirada waxaa shaaciyey oo saxaafadda u akhriyey wasiirkii hore ee warfaafinta C/kariin Xasan Jaamac, iyadoo wariyaashu ay ka sugayeen inuu raysul wasaare C/weli Gaas uu liiska u soo gudbiyo balse waxaa liiska saxaafadda u akhriyey C/kariin Xasan Jamac. Halkan Ka Dhageysa Wasiirkii Hore ee Warfaafinta C/Kariim Xasan Jaamac http://somali24.net/podcast/1787 Liiska golaha wasiirada cusub ayaa ka kooban 18 wasaardood, taasi oo la mid ah xukuumadii Farmaajo, laakiin dhamaantood waa shakhsiyaad ku cusub siyaasadda dalka.

OdaySomali;733399 wrote: "Liibaan" reminds me of a character by the nickname of Eastafrica... [snet] Odey snm-somalidiid reminds me of a character by the nickname of Somalistan=Barkhadd...[snet]

President of Sudan

'Liibaan';733194 wrote: President of Somalia Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed received Presidential welcome, and was given a red-carpet welcome in Juba, South Sudan President of Eritrea

The Zack;733496 wrote: Skip to the 11th minute of the recorded part I. They are being questioned over the Swedish Journalists that they kidnapped. The Xabashish think that we are in 1600's. LOL. Insha Allah, Western Somalia/O'gadenia will be free and independent very soon. Guul iyo Gobanimo Walaalahayn Soomaali Galbeed

- Visiting South Sudan: An Incredible Park Inside the World's Newest Country http://news.travel.aol.com/2011/07/09/visiting-south-sudan-an-incredible-park-inside-the-worlds-newe/ "The new country is hardly peaceful, but the erasure of borders drawn arbitrarily by colonial powers fuels hope that the racial and religious tensions that drove the conflict could be eased."

Timur;733466 wrote: Sourcing a private blog for inspiration? Man the desperation stinks. Clan secessionists are very desperate,

President of Somalia Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed received Presidential welcome, and was given a red-carpet welcome in Juba, South Sudan. Whereas , Warlord Siilaanyo the leader of snm clan secessionist faction only received handshake and photo op like other average people.

- After South Sudan: http://blackfolk.livejournal.com/8454379.html "It also says that Africans and their ancestors have for centuries only known feudal dominance, colonial exploitation at European hands, and then finally abuse and abandonment on the part of their own elites. These Africans inherited the borders and machinery of a colonial African states, but South Sudan proves that they do not have to inherit this outdated, post-colonial narrative." "In the birth of South Sudan, this postmodern idea has finally taken root on African soil. Here is a new nation, without precedent, either in colonial times or traditional pre-colonial times. South Sudan is a geographically determined nation that shares borders with two nations, Congo and Uganda, who stand ready to become natural trading partners. Whether South Sudan becomes an anomaly or a harbinger remains to be seen." Jeffrey Herbst, the president of Colgate wrote "It is likely that if the United States and other powers were to finally cast aside the old practices they would find many African countries eager to explore political arrangements that were NOT so directly tied to the boundaries established by the colonialists."

Xaaji Xunjuf;733203 wrote: Liibaan the somaliland flag was raised along all the other flags in juba at the independence ceremony yesterday besides south sudan and sudan still have border dispute about the oil rich regions of abayey and we are all aware the bahuko boys support the regime in khartoum as they did before Xaaji, no need for lies, no one raised the flag of snm clan secessionist Jabhad, Yes, there are still issues between Sudan and South Sudan, but that is irrelevant here. What is important is the fact all countries of the world including Sudan and Somalia recognized the newly independent country of South Sudan. Also, President of Somalia Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed received Presidential welcome, and was given a red-carpet welcome in Juba, South Sudan. Whereas , Warlord Siilaanyo the leader of snm secessionist faction only received handshake and photo op like other average people.

Odweyne, it is youwho doesn't know how to debate with others, you say same thing in every thread. You don't need to focus on other nomads like Liibaan, Soma@li, Somalina... What you should really worry about is the shameful and disgusting Video posted above.

President of Somalia Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed received Presidential welcome, and was given a red-carpet welcome in Juba, South Sudan

Som@li;733175 wrote: Good job by TFG. The secessionists must be biting their tongue, but they should take one or two lessons from SOUTH SUDAN. Well said Som@li, Clan Secessionists can take many lessons from South Sudan. South Sudan Succeeded where Somalidiid-land Clan Secessionists Failed, After 20 years of lies and hating their fellow Somalis, the result was Zero, truth hurts the clan secessionists, they should learn important lessons from South Sudan. Meaning, fake colonial maps/borders are irrelevant and useless in 21 century. What is important is Self-Determination of All People.

Thankful;733173 wrote: The results have been zero!! Once a single country openly supports your aspirations then claim results. South Sudan Succeeded where Somalidiid-land Clan Secessionists Failed, After 20 years of lies and hating their fellow Somalis, the result was Zero, truth hurts the clan secessionists, they should learn important lessons from South Sudan. Meaning, fake colonial maps/borders are irrelevant and useless in 21 century. What is important is Self-Determination of All People.

ALLSSC.COM: Wiil Uu Dhalay Madaxweynaha Koonfurta Suudaan Oo Muslimay Aabihiis-na Ugu Baaqay Innuu Diinta Islaam-ka Qaato Wiil uu dhalay Madaxweynaha Koonfurta Suudaan Salva Kiir ayaa qaatay Diinta Macaan ee Islaam-ka,isagoona Aabaha Dhalay ugu baaqay innuu ku daydo oo isna ku soo biiro Diinta Islaam-ka. John ayaa aaday Magaaladda Khartuum ee Caasimadda Waqooyiga Suudaan,si uu ugu biiro Diinta Macaan ee Islaam-ka,waxaana uu haatan la maxay Magaca Maxamed. ”Waxaan Ugu Biiray Diinta Islaam-ka Anni-ga Oo Horaba Innaan Janadda Galo,Waxaana Ku Laaban Doonaa Koonfurta Si Aan Dadka Halkaas Ku Nool Diinta Islaam-ka Uga Dhaadhiciyo’,ayuu yiri Maxamed. Maxamed oo Towxiidka loogu qabtay Masaajid ku yaala Magaaladda Khartuum ayaa Markii ku dhawaaqay waxaa Farxay oo ALLAAHU AKBAR ku dhawaaqay Boqolaal Ruux iyagoona u Hambalyeeyay. Wiilkaan ayaa Muslim Maalin ka hor Markii Koonfurta Suudaan ay isku diyaarinaysay innay qaadato Xornimadda. Rabshadihii iyo Isku-dhacyaddii Suudaan ayaa waxaa ku Nafwaayay Dad lagu qiyaasay 1.5 oo Milyan.

Juba - The Capital of South Sudan Juba Airport South Sudan Airlines Road in Juba Bijing Juba Hotel[/b Restaurants in Juba

SOMALIA Recognizes Independence of South Sudan 15:47, July 10, 2011 http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90855/7434887.html# The Somali government on Sunday announced that it has formally recognized the independence of South Sudan after the newest African state celebrated its sovereignty on Saturday, state radio reported. The announcement came as a high level delegation led by Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed attended Saturday's celebration of the declaration of independence for the new Republic of South Sudan in its capital Juba. "Somalia is pleased to be one of the first states to recognize the new state of South Sudan as member of an independent and sovereign states of Africa," State radio Mogadishu reported quoting Somalia's acting minister of information. The Comprehensive Peace Agreement signed in the Kenyan capital Nairobi in 2005 between Sudanese government and the then southern leadership ended decades of deadly civil war, paving the way for the creation of the Republic of South Sudan. The celebrations for the new South Sudan were marked with jubilant scenes in the new country's capital and other cities as well as in South Sudanese communities throughout the world. The festivities which were beamed live all over the world were closely followed throughout the continent and were attended by top international leaders. The Somali government said it will work with the leaders of the new state in areas of mutual interest and deepen diplomatic and trade ties with South Sudan where a large Somali community have established businesses as their home country reels from two decades of civil conflict. Source: Xinhua

Somalina;733104 wrote: Amxaaro caasimadaada iyo Berbera ayey ka buuxaan. Quuqda badan naga yeeray fadlan. Well Said Somalina, Somalidiid Clan Secessionists are on the record to say that they loved Ethiopia more than their own Somali brethren inside and outside of the republic. This sentiment is represented by one of the leaders of Somalidiidland, Faysal Cali Warabe's [in] famous saying: “a boy born in Hargeisa has more commonality with one born in Addis Ababa than one in Mogadishu.” - "Inanka Xamar ku dhasha, Kan Addis Ababa ku dhasha ayaa iga xiga "

SOMALIA Recognizes Independence of South Sudan 15:47, July 10, 2011 http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90855/7434887.html# The Somali government on Sunday announced that it has formally recognized the independence of South Sudan after the newest African state celebrated its sovereignty on Saturday, state radio reported. The announcement came as a high level delegation led by Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed attended Saturday's celebration of the declaration of independence for the new Republic of South Sudan in its capital Juba. "Somalia is pleased to be one of the first states to recognize the new state of South Sudan as member of an independent and sovereign states of Africa," State radio Mogadishu reported quoting Somalia's acting minister of information. The Comprehensive Peace Agreement signed in the Kenyan capital Nairobi in 2005 between Sudanese government and the then southern leadership ended decades of deadly civil war, paving the way for the creation of the Republic of South Sudan. The celebrations for the new South Sudan were marked with jubilant scenes in the new country's capital and other cities as well as in South Sudanese communities throughout the world. The festivities which were beamed live all over the world were closely followed throughout the continent and were attended by top international leaders. The Somali government said it will work with the leaders of the new state in areas of mutual interest and deepen diplomatic and trade ties with South Sudan where a large Somali community have established businesses as their home country reels from two decades of civil conflict. Source: Xinhua

Dowladda Soomaaliya oo Aqoonsatay Koonfurta Sudan, Kadib Markii Madaxweyne Omar Al-Bashiir iyo Dowlada Sudan Aqoonsadeen Koonfurta Sudan Dowladda FKMG-ka ah ee Soomaaliya ayaa si rasmi ah u aqoonsatay Koofurta Sudan kaddib markii ay ka go’day qeybihii kale ee Sudan. Wasiirka Warfaafinta Boostada iyo Isgaarsiinta Soomaaliya Dr. C/kariim Xasan Jaamac oo wareysi qaas ah siiyay Radio Muqdisho ayaa ka hadlay gooni isu taagga Koofurta Sudan ,isagoo tilmaamay in ay dowladda Soomaaliya Mabda’ ahaan u aqoonsan tahay Koofurta Sudan. Waxa uu farta ku fiiqay in arrintaani ay ka dambeysay safarkii ay madaxweynaha iyo wafdigiisa ku tageen magaalada Jubba islamrkaana ay uga qeyb qaaateen Munaasabadii dabaaldegga xoriyadda Koofurta Sudan. Maalintii shalay ayaa waxa ay koofurta Sudan ka xurowday Woqooyiga Sudan kaddib markii ay heshiis wada saxiixdeen hoggaamiyaha Koofurta Silva Keer iyo Madaxweynaha woqooyiga Sudan Cumar Xasan Al Bashiir. Koofurta ayaa noqoneysa wadankii 54-aad ee ka tirsan qaarad weynta Afrika, iyadoo madax badan oo ka tirsan caalamka ay si weyn u soo dhoweeyeen qaadashada xornimadeeda. Dowladad soomaaliya ayaa ka mid noqoneysa dowladaha ugu horeeya ee aqoonsada Koofurta Suudan, inay tahay mid ka madax banaan qeybaha kale Sudan.

Qaranki;733079 wrote: And Djibouti? If people of Djibouti want to join Somalia, and unite with their Somali brothers/sisters they are more than welcome. If Djibouti people want to their own little state that is fine as well. If people of Northwest Triangle [Hargeisa, Burco, & Barbara] want to remain part of United Somalia, they are welcome. If Northwest Triangle want to have their own Little Clan-State and take with them their 3 towns that is fine as well. The fact is Awdal, Maakhir, Sool, Sanaag, Cayn, SSC People want to remain as an Integral Part of United Somalia, and they have Human Rights like Self-Determination. If people of Awdal, Maakhir, Sool, Sanaag, Vayn, SSC want to have own little states, they have a right to do so as well, because the most important thing is SELF-DETERMINATION. No ONE in the World today cares about fake and ancient colonial maps/borders: The newly Recognized and Independent South Sudan is Good Example that colonial maps/borders are irrational and irrelevant, Only insignificant, narrow minded, and small group with Slave Mentality who worship their former colonial slave masters, care about the fake colonial maps/borders. But the majority of Somali and African who are peace and freedom people hate the fake colonial maps/borders. For 112 years, South Sudanese people were fighting against fake and unjust fake colonial borders, finally they gained their freedom. Only July 9, 2011, all countries of the World, United Nations, and all international community recognized South Sudan based on Solely SELF-DETERMINATION of people, NOT on the basis of fake colonial border. The World recognized the South Sudan Republic, the same day when the new Republic declared its independence from North Sudan.