Originally posted by bilan: i for one agree with the sheikh if someone is afraid for their lives then its is irresponsible to be asked that person to risk their lives, so he makes a lot sense to me. So, instead of someone opting to migrate to non-hostile grounds, that someone should rather abandon hijab? It would not make any difference if the someone abandons hijab. Afterall, the someone is a sitting duck.

Originally posted by Adna: perhabs with mahram Perhaps not?

Originally posted by Modesty: Brothers and Sisters, stay strong in Islam, sisters wear your hijab, pray 5 times a day. Have trust in Allah, and Allah will always protect you. With the protection of Allah, nothing can haraam you. Always know Allah is there with you, Allah knows what is in your heart, and Allah loves those who are obiedient and greatful to him. Allah bless us all...ameen. I second the above quote.

Originally posted by Kashafa: ...but it's been done successfully before. Example? Originally posted by Foxy-brown: So I stand by my point they can all burn in hell How do you mean by can? can gives them a choice to burn in hell; do they have that choice?

Originally posted by Adna: we all know that dating should be limited to whom are serious about marriage I didn't know that. I didn't even know Muslims whom are serious about marriage are allowed to date.

Originally posted by Kashafa: It's not too hard. Not when you have hundreds of billions of dollars just laying around waiting to be spent. The means are there, the people are there, the religous establishment is there. It's too hard. You have the US intelligence, military & other institutions that are too entrenched in Saudis & their country. How do you bypass that?

Originally posted by Warrior of Light: Her train of thought was by getting an education you should leave the folds of Islam and become civilised. That's a warped thought of train. I think the old lady should be excused, as her knowledge isn't uptodate. I applaud your stance, and hope you insist on it. May the force be with you.

Originally posted by bilan: i am sure if we have another place to go we would not be here. There's another place to go, but it requires hard work. There are two choices here; be a sitting duck in the West, or work hard (as should every Muslim) to sustain yourself in a non-hostile ground. i will advise all men to try to be a visible muslim for one week: grow your beard as long as possible,wear khamis,take a copy of the qur'an read it on the train,where everyone on the train can see what you reading and see how you take unwanted attention,glances, and sometimes verbal abuses. If you live in the US, you don't need go further, just observe the Somali and other immigrant cabdrivers who live in your city; they do some or all of what you have suggested, some doing it from day they come to the US, and it's not as bad as you make it sound.

Originally posted by Foxy-brown: They are nothing but a bunch of tyrants that control the Saudi oil industry, and enjoy extensive economic relations with the West. Who should otherwise control the Saudi oil industry? Even the US government controls its oil; why wouldn't the Saudis? And how do you employ an alternative to extensive economic relations with the West? While prentending to impose on applying Shari"ah and defense of Islam have become nothing but an empty Vessel. If you were put today in the position of the Saudi king, how would you impose on applying Shari"ah and defense of Islam? Be realistic. The royal Family are hypocrites that live a lavish lifestyle with neverending hunger for gamling in Casinos all around the world, not to mention owning buildings of fantastic palaces which are spread in various parts of the country as well as outside. And whose royal family wouldn't do that? If there were a Somali royal family enjoying the same kind of wealth (even a quarter or half of it), they wouldn't be different from Saudis. Gambling in Casinos and owning fantastic palaces has little or nothing to do with being a royal family; it has something to do with being secularist.

I don't know who's Dr Badawi, but his advice is wrong. If London or the UK isn't safe for Muslims, especially for women who wear hijab, let them migrate or move to Allah's vast lands. Not wearing hijab will not make Muslim women more safe. Those who engage in race attacks aren't dumb; if they want to attack Muslim women, they can also go after those who wear shirts & jeans. I know what the kind of Muslim figure like Dr Badawi would also advice Muslims; change your Muslim names to Western names to stay safe from race attacks. I want to highlight that living in the West isn't safe for Muslims; it has the potential to get more unsafe as the clash between Islam and the West widens. Muslims have to understand they live in an alien & hostile ground. They need to comprehend they're sitting ducks in the West. The smart Muslim would make the wise decision of preparing to move to a non-hostile ground.

I would be scared if a girl asks me to marry her, seriously. I am old fashioned, and the only way I would approach the issue is sending a delegation of mine to her representatives, to broker a deal.

Originally posted by Shirwac: Why can't something JUST happen without there being a conspiracy? That's a valid possibility.

Originally posted by Pucca: i'm sure his lord will put him where he deserves to be. Some people think they know where he deserves to be put. The fact is, he might as well be put to the other place. Simply, when someone dies, no one knows where he/she will be put. In real life, many faces we thought were beautiful have turned out to be ugly faces, and vice versa. You can only hope a dead Muslim rests in peace, because the agonies that lie beyond doesn't compare to the one here, even in miniscule.

This seems to be a foul play. There are entities who don't want Sudan to enjoy peace and prosperity. It remains to be seen what this will lead to.

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: See..I guesed right that you are goin to come back with throw in line... How do you know my line was meant for you to guess it right? Originally posted by rudy: Blair, now what u hear is not a dizz--but me n homies from sol are gonna try to break down to u, how is it to be accused of terriorism. And i like u to say hello.. to all my friends to the somali, to northern, to jaboutew, and to suji, puntland, n to oggie-land . so far all you heard is cool things about u from us since we is all good muslims and we dont care about dizzing people. Is it necessary what you're begging from poodle Blair? You have to understand Blair is a mere human who has limited power as a leader of a country, and no power that can benefit/harm you. Even within his establishment, he's merely a spokesman; he doesn't hold much power. It's really mind-boggling how a Muslim is begging a non-Muslim, when he/she is supposed to only rely on the Almighty. Really!!!

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: And Who told you this???..who told you that words are less effective than muscles.... A fact so simple like that doesn't need to be told.

Originally posted by rudy: give him your opinion! tell him what you feel, whether its your disagreement with his policy in irag, africa or the police operations in london. And what would that achieve? Is it one of your constitutional rights that you can exercise?

Contrast this: How about if I call you a hypocrite with: Can it get more duplicitous/hypocritical than that? Notice the words you and that in the above quotes. We have one poster who engages in personal attacks. We have another poster who engages in attacks against a person's writing, idea or point. One is subjective, the other objective.

Originally posted by rudy: voice A voice doesn't achieve much; muscles do. No wonder action speaks louder than words.

Originally posted by Raganimo: <--- Endowed_Man Greetings Endowed_Man.

Originally posted by Modesty: Can someone e-mail me or tell me what to do. It's better to post the solution here, so others can benefit. Basically, you need iTunes. It's the software that will let you import the Qur'an collection to your iPod. Just put your audible files in iTunes & plug your iPod's USB to your computer. That should automatically import the files into the iPod.

Originally posted by Warrior of Light: I think she wants us to mention our former usernames. OK, I got it. My username was Arabman.

Originally posted by -Lexus: Who here use to write on S/Net and still does? I used to, no longer. So, who is who? What do you mean?

Originally posted by Raganimo: ...Since When يا اخي على الأقل منذ التحاقهم بالجامعة العربية. يمكنك التأكد من هذه الصÙحة

Originally posted by M.I.L.K: The world leaders must join efforts and work hand in hand to combat against terroris coming from somali in other words. Easier said than done. The world leaders have limitations; there's little they can add to what they are already doing about terroris. The world leaders have known for some time there are terroris in Somalia, yet they chose not to do something about it. One has to wonder why. Perhaps the reason is, the world leaders are afraid to open a new front in Somalia; instead of solving problems, they could actually create one they will regret about, one that could get out of hands. They are afraid of another Iraq in Somalia. Things are no longer easy as black and white; there are many colors that got mixed up with things.