^Silence is never the solution, I'll tell you that for nothing, maybe you can spread the message, raise the issue, and other people will take it up and find some sort of solution.

Loool Ypu guys are bad losers loool Congrats to all winners (did you all get a little something something posted to y'll or ....) I don't think i've ever seen stoic smile. In fact once he was so rude.... (aah never mind Congrats

^^^OKay we'll talk in 10years and see where you at DOg? Okay

And i explained how the action was done dear, No wonder you keep on being firmly told "NO" :rolleyes:

^^Acuudu bilaah push it back few years, ibtisam you can think better than that, I know by all means if my death is to be terminated while Im on the street waiting for a car to knock me down, it will be and will end that way, what happens happens, that way my logic... By no means I said that a possible prevention is to be ruled out, had I said that then I would be opossing the Idea of Doctors and all that they stand for.. What you do not think the effects of globalisation can be pushed back a few years??

^^^loool Are you kidding me?, put your arm around them and you hand will rest on their shoulder, unless you stand with your hands which I don't imagine you do

. ^^THat is similar to sitting in front of a car and waiting and seeing when your life will be terminated via a car knocking you down! Allah gave you a mind/ brain to use, so if they can prevent it or minimize it effect or push it back a few years

^^HOw would you determin if someone is showing off or not, especially from a picture; loool Man has issues, some Xalimo p*issed him off and he came to rant (and no it was not me in the picture, i just don't like caartaaro) Edit Cambarro 2003! Women! :rolleyes: you evil

^^Inshallah khyir but don't count on it or hold your breath I wish you all the best

How do you plan to usher the whole population and at what scale can you help/ offer to them an alternative that would persuade them to leave their current life style and adopt a new one all together. I don't think anyone would say let the first million die, BUT it is difficult to explain to these people (this is all they have ever known) and convince them of any change however small. If your resources were limitless there are some alternatives that they uses in China, Indian and now Bangladesh

^^loool^ Right!. did you know Hodman is Bill Gates :rolleyes: Maybe you'll get helped with the other half

loool God protect us from Fools in deed! lool Okay no excuses in that case, i won't post a why thread. lol

loooooooooooooooooool, hey he alreayd has a whole thread named after him and his co, which he refused to use :rolleyes: now he has no excuse loool

How do you know it was intentional? Maybe she was just holding her friend close? Why would looking better than another be Haram. It is not her fault?

loool Sharmarkee. Nomadique me and you both

Kimiya and David while I agree with you both, I think some people take it to extremes. On both sides. I think we are missing that middle ground of "yes" we have problems, and we will always have some problems, but we can only address problems with we acknowledge that there are problems and look for solutions. We cannot simply say “Somali people are great, wonderful and I am proud, end of story”. And there are a lot of people who do this, while others go around self loathing and pretending to be from other countries. We are not worthless ethnic group but at the same time we are not contributing as a community but rather as individuals (too many individuals working alone) and we have never grasped the essence working together as one/ or at least an organized contribution that can be attributed to Somali people rather than one individual.

^^in that case keep away from them, they are broke *** people You would think they will pick something which has Somalia in the name. I don't know something like Somali government or Central government of Somalia, what the hell is TFG Tomaila Federal Government I suppose

TFG?

^^rob a bank

^^^Johnny Whats with word games? I'm disappointed to be Somali? No i just would like them to get better and stop living in the past and show some sign of improvement. Dabshid: Good, but why teach them about the past? that is gone, teach them to live in the future and make/ shape their future.

^^^I find it rather sad that in order to be proud, I must reach back into history to an ancient civilization and text books, if anything it is a painful reminder of our lack of progression and highlights the backwardness of the subsequent generations. You are also mixing up things here, resilience, spirits and the ability to endure difficult times and pull through intact are qualities/ characteristics I can associate with Somali people. This has allowed them to go through civilian and military governments and civil wars. But these are survival/desperate measures, not something to linger onto. I am not judging Somalis on This difficulties only, they have been having difficult times long before I was born. Denying that we are in trouble and have been for a long time is not going to help us get better. I should not have to live in a library or stick my head in the sand to believe that Somalis as people and as a country/ countries are something to be proud of. Action/ facts speak louder than words (especially empty reiterations) dabshid I hate those who put down our country and people, and feel ashamed to be associated with Somalis, so I am not being dismissive, those rats have nothing to offer us. Some even refuse to speak the Somali language? that is how much they hate us My dear words cannot put a country down, (same way a bunch of people stating that they proud of Somalia does not help Somalia) Somalia is beyond that, it was dragged down by actions and only drastic actions and measures can build it. Being simply proud just makes YOU feel better without doing anything, SO tell me what makes you better than those who are in denial about their identity (or rats as you call them), both are avoiding the problem and not looking for solutions. :cool:

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: quote:Originally posted by ibtisam: Mantra: YEs ensure you take the tags/ Labels off your clothes as well, loool quote: Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: quote: Originally posted by ibtisam: ^she went mad on me for drinking coke, and swore by God and told me i was drinking Palestinian blood and should be ashamed of myself, i was not impressed with her at all. Needless to say i told her to hit the masjid and learn the deen before becomin a scholar, YEah she sued them and got money Now I am mad at you for dissing Gabar kaa weyn oo Islaamtay! Shame on you, and don't drink too much Coke while it is what keeps you chubby! Our people are starving and you are enjoying cabitaan qaboow iyo coke baas!! Oh dear, you really need to die soon! She was there to answer for herself, no need for you to stretch over, and in any case I did not “diss” her, I gave her good advise. Whether it keeps me chubby or not is none of your business, aaflaagad keep it. Why is are some people so Obsessed with certain things!. Shaaqlaan baadan taadku :rolleyes: And I suppose you don't drink or eat and live in rat hole somewhere living below poverty lines,... oh of course with internet connection :rolleyes: Tell me how does you starving along with them help them? You cut my mouth with all that your anger! Bal raali ahow, koley inaan wax kuu sheego baan rabaye! Oh, I forget my mother's advice, to never talk about a woman's food intake and how much she eats! Please forgive me, I committed the most cardinal sin today! Your anger really reflects something that exists, I think, but please keep drinking the Coke. And at the end, May you look like Opprah Winfrey, Insha-Allah! Say aamiin, if you want! I wish it did cut off your mouth :rolleyes: Maa waax noo sheek baad naaga maaqlasi? :rolleyes: your advised is not needed/wanted nor is it appricated so ciirka uu sheek. Aadigo skinny straving farah aah I don't see how you can look down on someone like her :rolleyes: :confused: you seriously do have something missing in your head. In any case sheekaad haalka kuu daaf and shaaqo kaal doono!

Emperor Being proud is different to loyalty, being proud to is a symbol of contentment or happiness at what you see, I’m not happy nor I’m content with Somalia as a country/ countries nor I'm content with the state of the Somali people at all (anywhere in the world). In saying that, don’t get it twisted it does not mean I would like to disassociate myself or sit around wishing I was not Somali, far from it, even if I was not Somali I would still not be happy for Somali’s. Rather is a recognition of our failures, and not busing my self with empty statements "such as I am proud to be Somali" when I can clearly see that there is nothing I can point to back up that statement. Instead we should be so ashamed that we strive to make a change to something that we CAN be proud of, that the generations after can be proud of, not the same sick cycle. Changes do not happen when people are happy with the current state or apathy, change grows out of dissatisfaction/ angry/ frustration etc I do agree that someone cannot choose where they are born or they are born to (stating the obvious here) and no I would not wish to belong to any other. But that does not mean to say that you cannot shape/ change the situation you were born into.

Why shouldn't I be? WHat is there to be proud of?? Answer me that and I will show countless reasons why we should hide our face in shame of what we are, what we've become and this never ending cycle. UK Rose: Now am very proud of my country, I've over come my insecurities, I don't care about the political situation, am just proud of who I am. Nowhere in the world is perfect What makes you who you are as a Somali? and what is there to be proud of as a country (where is the progress, the achievement, the justice, the peace?) Nowhere is perfect, but no one is asking for perfect, staying alive and a bit of food is not too much to ask for, but in Somali even that of next to impossible.

Hunguri my lawyer will have your as*s for false accusations and damage of my good public Image.