Dhaqaale

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  1. 35 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

    Xaaji,

    There is an old English proverb that says: "That the wish is the father to the thought" (or words to that effect). Which means, someone's wishful thinking leads him to construct all kind of labyrinth rationale of why what he wishes to see happen is the actual reality that will come to pass.

    Hence, this silly waffler talking about nonsense about Somaliland crumbling internally or having some form of civil war in the future is basically given vent to his wishful thinking. And from that wretched position, he seems to be constructing the case that there will be a civil war in Somaliland.

    So in my experience the best thing to do is to shake ones's head once you read such baseless argument and then proceed to put him down as the usual wafflers in here of SOL who wishes to comment about Soamiland and its affairs without having the first freaking clue about it, particularly in-terms of what the place is about and what the folks who actually had build it from scratch were about yesterdays and also are about in today's reality.

    If its wishful thinking then why don't you live in Somaliland full time? Why do you live in London (surrounded by english civilization of 800 years) with your family and only visit Somaliland for holiday? Why is the kid Suldaanka living in Australia and not Somaliland? I will tell you why, it is because of the destitution and lack of real opportunity and fairness. Even Xaaji lives in England and not Somaliland. You cannot live and work full time in Somaliland (I know this because, I have seen it) because of the insufficiency in meeting basic needs of the people. My assessment is based on measurable metrics and guided by the logic "poverty is not unity" in the long run will be proven right. However, you seem content with formulated your arguments with clan kinship and propaganda like some East German stasi unit. It did not work for the communist then and it is not going to work for you now. In the end you are going to have to face the music or trouble will come.

    You maybe able to kid with others on here about your "state" but I have seen it in action and I am not impressed one bit. 


  2. If things do not improve soon, matters will take a turn for the worse. Remember Somalis in the south were once "civilized" and had strong bonds too (talk to them about how they use to inter-marry), had a better economy and fertile farming land. They were happy with great potential, a carefree life...no worries. But look at them today...bonds can be broken. 


  3. No. There will be civil war in Somaliland if things don't improve soon (i.e U.N statehood). You may say that is impossible because of the "tight control" one clan has over the rest of the other clans (all clans are equally armed btw). UCID party (Mr Warabe) was the candidate for the last 17 years! and Wadani a party that styles itself after the liberal democrats here in the UK (they even have the same party colours lol), have not had a president only UDUB and Kulmiye (The same sub clan) had a president. Somaliland will experience small intensive conflict and then slip into full blown civil war between the various clan houses like in 1994-1995.

    Remember also this, Ghelleh is close to Somalilanders in terms of kinship than other Somali "controlled" territories. And he has not given Somaliland U.N statehood (Djibouti is a U.N member) what does that tell you about the case of Somaliland statehood? An inside joke. The implosion is coming, too much poverty too many lies... the house of cards will fall.


  4. Galbeedi you make good points but you miss the most important ingredient. Which is Somalis do not have a healthy brain to work with, this is a foundational truth that cannot be ignored. The fact that the north was given top jobs in the kacaan government tells you all you need to know about Somali intelligence and vision planning; why did the north rebel against a government they had dominanted? Why didn't they build on the success of the pervious administration (1960-1969). Why was the clan issue not tackled effectively before things got out of hand? The answer is simple...Somalis are too emotional, impulsive, greedy and counter productive. They lost a country they were given in 1960 and instead of making it a success story they decided to self destruct. They rather live in poverty than have to be ruled by another clan. Utter madness..

    If Somalis want to move forward they are going to have to confront why things are the way they are and deal with their issues instead of running away from them. But looking around the world I don't see things changing anytime soon.


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    14 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

    ^^^Okey, dokey, kiddo, run along now to the kid's corner given that you had your fun! 

    🤨...It seems you have run out of steam. After being solemnly defeated without a solid argument to boot you resort to calling grown men kids. Well You maybe an older man (from what I am told on this forum) than me in physical body but your mind is clearly that of a small child.


  6. Nobody cares what you have write or say. You have no value to add. You write as if your have an intellect worth sharing. No Somali here reads your long diarrhea post that fail to get to the point quickly. There is also an older Somali saying, maybe you northern bushmen are not familiar with it: "Af daboolan waa dehab...becuase Carruuri haddii aad kuftid way kugu qososhaa."


  7. ^^Yes there is something else...you can piss off Oodweyne nobody wants you here anymore. Your clan has no history or cultural achievements you can name here on SOL; I have challenged you to produce your clan historical achievements but you can't because there is none to speak of. Now f*ck off back to the bush...waryaa were you belong you naked aborigine. 😎


  8. Abdillahi Yusuf Warned them 13 years ago in 2007. 0:24 mark till 0:44 mark. He even mentions certain clans which are welcoming to the idea of a SL being a federal member.

    But the important point was how he said 'your rushed to secession' you didn't think it over critically and now your bloody going around forcing Awdal-SSC regions to join you in your madness. It was shit fest that started with bad 'talo' and that bad talo lead to successive bad mistakes and isolation and now their stuck in this hole they can't get out of by telling they're people there is recognition coming yet they deep down know it's not coming. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

    Lool, listen to this ninny waffling with empty bravado. Mate, if ever there is a wretched hell-hole in the whole of the Somali peninsula at this point in time, it could be said it's where Mr Farmaajo was allegedly said to be ruling it. Which is Somalia since it's a place where African's Bantu's hired mercenaries occupation on one hand, coupled with murderous Al-Shabaab's endless and pitiless campaign of a wanton destruction sort on the other hand, is cumulatively raging on it now.

    Hence, if I were you I would seek urgent help about this delusion in which you are ailing with it now, which in turn seems to have you in its grip to the extend that you actually and freeakingly think that the likes of Mr Farmaajo who can't secure the mere roads that passes in the middle of Mogadishu is in any state whatsoever to "improve" the health and the education of the average citizens of Somalia. What a contemptible argument you must be dealing with it in here, mate.   

    When the oil and gas money start rolling in, I don't want to see you in your rag tag clothes queuing up with your begging bowl asking for a handout.

    So keep prostituting yourself to the world (tell them about the dead bodies) I am sure U.N recognition is just around the corner.🤭


  10. My advice to the Somali government of Mogadishu is to ignore the bigots of the north-west sector and focus on improving government transparency , rebuilding Somalia with the oil and gas money, improving health, education and most important finishing off the Islamic terrorist. These things are more important that visiting a dust bowel full of hungery destitute khat addicted unproductive filth of the worst kind. Leave them to their shit and piss cities.

    They are not our kin so f*ck them. 🤗


  11. 5 hours ago, galbeedi said:

    This man from Ansalooti, Mogadishu, doesn't know culture or history. THere is no such thing as Reer Woqoyi in terms of the last Somali civil war. I have no problem If Farmaajo want to apologize on behalf of the Gedo community.

     

    I tried to avoid this topic because thousands of innocent Somalis had been killed during the civil war either from  the Somali state or the rebels. And unless you walked with someone else's shoes, you can not present fairly the extend of these crimes.

     

    LIke most rebels of that era SNM, USC and others were angry and tribal to the core. And in our tradition, if you became a victim of an angry tribal mob, may Allah have a mercy on you. Wherever they had an opportunity to kill they never hesitated. When the war broke in 1988 and they encountered the early defeat , they SNM massacred and killed anyone who belonged the wrong tribe. Shop keepers, public servants and others were murdered in daylight.

     

    I am always amazed by those who frame the issue like the Somali state being the one who waged the war and invaded cities.

     

    Ma dawlada Soomaaliyeed baa ku duushay Hargeisa, mise SNM oo koontaraad ay dalka ku duminayso ka soo qaadatay Mengistu ayaa dalka ku soo duushay?

     

    It was the angry Somali rebels who were the aggressors on behalf of foreign government. The Somali state was defending the territorial integrity of the country. What would any government do , if a tribal movement armed by a historical enemy occupies the second largest city in a suicide mission? you defend it with any means necessary.

     

    When Mohamed I Cigal was selected by elders in Borama, former president C/raxman Tuur (AHN) and his supporters refused to accept and opposed his administration. Since Egal considered himself as a government, he waged a war to bring back the rebels by any means necessary. He bombed Burco city with altelary and the people have to abandon the city and relocate to new place called Yiroowe. Some estimate up to 5000 people being killed in a two year war.

     

    After he defeated the rebels by the barrel of the gun, he then started a reconciliation.  Knowledgeable people will tell you that more people had died in Burco than the the earlier war of 1988. In fact, most of the city was destroyed after 1991. Egal even bombed Hargeisa airport to dislodge from South Hargeisa clans (Suldaanka and company) in 1996.

     

    If Egal who was controlling Hargeisa, Berbera and Borama could bomb everyone for submission to  preserve his non existent government, certainly the Somali state has every right to fight the rebels contracted by Mengistu of Ethiopia. Why not Awdal or someone try to day to separate?. The SNM Habro will use their army to destroy Borama and masacre the civilian just like they did in 1991. 

    Maasajidka Ciyaarta ka Daaya.

     

    Who is going to give apology to the hundreds of thousands of Somalis who died because of the actions of these hungry and angry rebels rented by Ethiopia? Who will give apology to the 300,000 Somalis who died with starvation in the south due to the tribal war waged between the D block and USC? Who will give appology to the thousands perished in high seas to esxape the misery of the tribal governments.

    Walaahi dalagii ay dadka koonfur galbeed beerteen ayey godadkii kala baxeen qolyihii is eryenayey ee D & H, weliba waxii ay arkeena way dhaceen . Illaa markii dambe gaajo iyo colaad loo dhintay.

    Unlike the corrupt tribal rebels of Somalia and their supporters who travel between Addis,, Yemen, London and Nairobi, the typical Somali rural and villager between the rivers had nowhere to run. They live of the land. They did not had passport or another country to travel, that is why they dies in hundreds of thousands, yet no one is talking about them.

    Waxay dhib iyo hallaag jabhadu noo geysteen oo dalkii naga dumiyeen ayaa weliba iyaga raali galin la siinayaa.

    Aan ooye Albaabka ii xidha.

     

    This opportunist Farmaajo and the few stooges who are accompany him do not have the capacity , temperament  or even the communicative skills to explain or  right the wrongs of the civil war. 

     

    We are the so called Reer  Woqoyi and he doesn't speak for us. If the Gedo community want to apologize to the SNM community, by all means go ahead, but do not generalize us with those who have grievances with the Somali state of yesterday. Certainly we have other grievances like under development and lack of roads in our region since most of the state development of Somalia  in the Kacaan era were  invested  between the two rivers and Benaadir and Hargeisa/Berbera corridor. We have nothing against the Somali state and we are willing to take our space among the free Somalis under the sun.

     

    Muuse Biixi who has his own documented crimes to answer might have persuaded Farmaajo  to pronounce this useless apology,  but this move will not even soften the clan at this stage. 

     

    If you are serious about a real reconciliation of the crimes of the Somali civil war, then appoint a truth commission where everyone has to confess and tell their story. Yet, no matter how loud microphone the SNM habro use to amplify their cases and try to bury their own crimes, the truth will not disappear. This is not 1945, were those who were present are dying. Those who were present when the crimes of SNM in the north and USC in the south and MOgadishu were committed are live and kicking. 

     

    WE even have  cases against Muuse Biixi himself with witnesses ready  to testify in a court. 

     

    Farmaajo might try to fool people and those he is trying to get their  votes, but he will not fool us , because we  know  history and culture. It was us the USP unionists who forced the union in 1960, and it looks that it is up to us to bring that union again despite the current braggadocio and false invincibility of the SNM boys. History repeats itself.

     

     

    Yep I have to agree with your analysis of Somaliland and Egal. Spot on, you have it right. When tur refused to give up the title of president fighting erupted in Somaliland. This is why I think Farmaajo should not apologize until the SNM come clean about the things they did.


  12. 7 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

    ^^^

    But that is not a retort, yea silly bugger. In fact it's a silly argument given that "geographical expression" which is what maps are, do not make a nation in legal or political sense.

    Do you now see how idiotic you sound like, parading a map that you can't politically, jurisdictionally, and legally, be enforced inside that map whatever you are alleging such map to represent. 

    Here is tragedy of talking to illiterate chances like you. For you have no idea that "Cartographic maps" do not make a nation in the true sense of that word. But they only give an expression after the fact a country with ability to enforces its writs across its boundaries gets to be established as a fact on the ground.    

    You sound foolish bushman, read a history book, I am not going to babysit you.


  13. 1 minute ago, Oodweyne said:

    Call me a man who is raining on your silly parade in here, but if I were you I would that say that you stand a better chance of seeing, actually observing, Oceania reuniting or reunifying with Atlantis, than the sight of seeing Somaliland reuniting or reunifying with Somalia and doing it so in any sort of legal or political sense.

    But that just me who like to piss on the silly fantasy on some of the two-bit plonkers of the sort you are around here. 😎 

    I will just leave this here for our emotional north men, as the truth.👇

     

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