FBISOMALIA

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  1. 9 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

    I hope those companies will build schools and clinics for nomads before the first cup of oil is extracted.

    It costs very little for them, but goes a long way to have peace.

    Otherwise expect oil wars and warlords getting money from oil companies that did not get the contracts.

    Or like some countries do give it to so many companies like one extracts, another pipes, another purifies..etc.

    Oil is bad as it is in all of Africa, but in HoA especially its killer.

    World community used to give AID to somalis . most of the AIDS goes on constriction schools, hospital and infrastructure etc.

    OIL will let somalis to stop asking money from outside their country.

    The only issue here is Oil Agreements . Xamar wants Centralize everything.

    Old kacaan era is over . Xamar will have it share but other states should have 50% revenue , 25% xamar , 25% other states. 


  2. Kenya is losing. but they should understand other african nations did has same issue like Nigeria and Cameroon.

    Cameroon won . Somalia is in the same Cameroon position. Inshalla we will win. 

    Kenya should blame their greed when selling our waters to other foreign countries and eat our money before 2012 . 

    They should pay for each shiilan they eat in our water. 


  3. 15 hours ago, cubano said:

    You forget to add other Arab countries. 

    Soviet is dead now . Somalia will wake up again. Somalia ha nolato.

     

    Cuban troops and Soviet aid destroyed Somalia soul in 1978.

     

    If you invade Ethiopia again, Cuba crushes Somalia.

    Cuba is finished . Your era is over with the soviet . just keep away from Africa affairs. Somalia Giant will come back again . Sooner or later . inshalla .


  4. 8 minutes ago, Tillamook said:

    Lol😁

    That there is a classic example of the delusional wet dreams of a cretinous moryan revisionist. Ha ha ha🤣😁😄🤣

    Saaxiib, you can b1tch and moan all you like but at the end of the day, Federalism is here to stay. Xaaf is your President and galMudug is your Federal state; and so, all the iljeex and futojeexs of your ilk in the world have no choice but to live under the political federal course that Puntlanders have set for Somalia. No amount of terrorism, anarchy, moryaanimo, and bililiqo; or revisionist history in the world can ever reverse that. 

    Just saying.😁

     

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  5. 8 minutes ago, Tillamook said:

    Rubbish.

    Puntland has nothing to do with this Galmudug insecurity, let alone the internal beef between the Galmudug boys of Farmajo & Kheyre In one side and Xaaf & ASWJ on the other. So kindly desist from trying to drag us into your shitty cesspool in here. 

     

    Since 2010 After deadly fights PL and Galmudug, both sides sign an agreement to mix up two sides under one security force.

    Since then Galgacyo on peace until today . 

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    Somalia: Galmudug, Puntland Sign Agreement on Security of Galka'o

    Galka'o — Officials of the semi-autonomous region of Puntland and Galmudug State have Tuesday signed agreement to protect the insecurity acts of Galka'o town of Mudug region in north Somalia.

    There had been meeting continued at the airport of Galka'o town that both officials discussing more on how they would start a crackdown on the insecurity situation of the town where there had been instability recently.

     

    Its not rubbish, those are facts on the ground . Check on google you will find more about mix force . PL in-charge until Galmudug build their forces . 


  6. السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

    PL is also responsible for the accident . PL holding Galkayo security from north to south . 

    PL should give hand to investigate and who behind them and bring down the killers to the court. 

    Accusing farmajoo its nonsense , Farmajoo government cant control one road in xamar without amisom. 

    Mostly who did this is Al-shabab ( SL proxy terrorist ) behind it . 


  7. 11 minutes ago, Old_Observer said:

    Both Puntland and Somaliland have pros and cons for any foreign power and also depending on the seasons.

    Generally:

    Puntland has piece of Red Sea and Indian Ocean

    Somaliland has better piece of red sea and is open space to Indian ocean

    Puntland has access to be power in Mugadishu as well as in Garowe

    Somaliland is only in Hargiesa

    Both Somaliland and Puntland have similar diaspora power (lobby, information, business..)

    Neighboring countries see them the same, people and government wise.

    Djibouti does not want to choose between the two

    Ethiopia does not want to choose between the two

    Nobody wants Somaliland and Puntland to fight each other. Would bring quick end to Somalia dream of recovery and is very bad for business.

    China has always preferred Puntland, because Somaliland can easily get close to Britain and also is competition to Djibouti.

     

    Please do not compete for Bedewin temporary Arabs seeming power.

    Both are also very matured and civilized. Look how Somaliland handles Djibouti, Ethiopia..very dnagerous countries of dictatorships. Look how Puntland also handles Hargiesa and Mugadishu as well as Ethiopia a lot of balancing and juggling act.

    So far so good.

     

     

    You forget to add many other points.

    PL give lectures on good government to the baby states, training police officers and jail warder. 


  8. 13 hours ago, cubano said:

     That land is what lots of Somalis of all walks  died for in 1977 war. Don't piss on their graves ungrateful kid. 

    If they dont like the deal They can try to invade Ethiopia again.

    Cubans and Russians will be ready for another fight.

    You forget to add other Arab countries. 

    Soviet is dead now . Somalia will wake up again. Somalia ha nolato.


  9. Those terrorist Yeman is not ready to open other doors in their conflict. specially with Somalis.

    Yes maybe Somalia is failed state but still country of the warriors. Till today 30 years we fighting among our self and againts terrorist.

    One missile hit any somali soil from Djibouti to gardafoo in bari. Somalis are willing to bring our civil war to their homes!.

    Kenya tried to take our waters . just we said No they run away. 

     


  10. 1 hour ago, Apophis said:

    Agreed. If anything they partook in the afweyne masscares.

     

    Is  Morgan not a pirate? A revered pirate? Is he not the one on youtube videos encouraging the Migs and the artillery to firebomb Hargeisa?

     

    Was he not the one who massacred ***s in Kismayo? And allowed. Reer afweyne to settle in Kismayo?

    I keep saying, I know most of Somalis are illiterate but we will not be taught history by failures.

    Now been Agreed with evidence of the massacre right !

    Morgan just like any warlord to me he is criminal just like anyone else.

    But the point here is will *** or other clans hand over their criminal for their crimes. 

    Musa biixi murdered many our brothers on Sool and still killing military coronals till today .

    SNM on the 90s agains awdal iyo bari sanaag.

    Somalia came from long way of the civil war . People of Somalia want peace and progress and try to come over civil war wounds. 


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    Somalia: Information on persecution of members of the Puntlandersteen clan by the *** clan

    Publisher: Canada Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

    Author Research Directorate, Immigration and Refugee Board, Canada

    Publication Date 1 July 1989

    Somalia, located in the "Horn of Africa" with a population of about 5.8 million, has few natural resources and has undergone severe environmental degradation during the past decade. The country is presently affected by a civil war which erupted in the Northern part of the country in May 1988. The fighting broke out after the main opposition force, the Somali National Movement (SNM), crossed the Ethiopian border and launched major attacks in towns of the North, including Burao and Hargeisa. ["The Somali-South African Connection", in Africa Events, April 1989, p. 32.] The government response included bombings of civilian populations, causing thousands of deaths and the displacement of about two million people. [ Somalia: Imprisonment of Members of the Isaaq Clan since Mid-1988, (London: Amnesty International, 1988), p. 2.]

    Since 1969, Somalia has been governed by a military dictatorship lead by Siyaad Barre. The regime has been repeatedly accused of violations of human rights. The army, police and, in particular, the National Security Service (NSS), have been most frequently identified as the agencies which commit such abuses. [Critique to the U.S. Department of State's Country Reports, 1986, 1987, 1988: Somalia, (Washington: Human Rights Watch, 1986, 1987, 1988); Amnesty International Reports 1979-1988 and Somalia: a long term human rights crisis, (London: Amnesty International, 1979-1988, September 1988); Scientists and Human Rights in Somalia, (Washington: National Academy of Sciences and Institute of Medicine, 1988).] The NSS has unlimited powers of arrest, search and confiscation, and has detained thousands of people for political or unspecified reasons in recent years. [ Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 1988, (Washington: U.S. Department of State, 1989), p. 308.] Prisoners are reported to be subject to torture and extra-judicial executions. [ Somalia: a long term human rights crisis, and Critique, various pages.]

    Tensions between the Somali government and the two main opposition groups, the Somali National Movement (SNM), a mainly ***-clan organization, and the Democratic Front for the Salvation of Somalia (DFSS) linked to the Puntlandersteen clan, arose about a decade ago; this apparently gave the government an excuse to increase its abuses, which reportedly have increased sharply since the start of the civil war. [ Somalia: Imprisonment of Members of the *** Clan since Mid-1988; "Somalia: Showdown in the North", in Africa Confidential, 29 July 1988, pp. 1-3, and Beyond the Headlines: refugees in the Horn of Africa, (American Council for Nationalities Service, 1988), p. 38.]

    International institutions, including the Canadian Centre for Torture Victims and the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights, report torture, abduction, rape, extortion and other abuses being committed throughout the country, mostly, but not exclusively, by the NSS. [ Critique, p. 135.] Dr. Wendall Block, on behalf of the Canadian Centre for the Investigation and Prevention of Torture, reports in November 1987 that the Somalis he interviewed were detained and tortured for presumed reasons such as fund raising for the SNM, verbal criticism of government policies and simply for being a relative of a member of an opposition organization. [Somalia: A Long Term Human Rights Crises, (London: Amnesty International, 1979-1988, September 1988), p.44.] Everyone denied being formally charged or brought to trial. Their detentions ranged from a week to three and a half years. [ibid. ] Some of them were detained in military camps but most were kept in NSS centres. Aside from the inhuman conditions, there were regular beatings, including the "Mig" (chest to floor, arms and legs pulled back so that wrists are tied to ankles). [ibid. p.45]

    Political, labour and individual rights are severely restricted and controlled by the government. Independent unions and demonstrations are banned, and the government routinely intervenes with personal communications. Freedom of movement within Somalia and the right to leave the country are limited by the authorities. [ Country Reports for 1988: Somalia, various sections.] Somali officials allegedly demand large bribes from members of the Somali community who return from abroad and attempt to leave the country again. [ Critique, p. 136.] Young men are reportedly recruited at gunpoint for military service in order to maintain a sufficient number of armed forces in the North. [ "Somalia: The Mogadishu factor", in Africa Confidential, (London: Miramoor Publications, Limited), 16 December 1988, p. 2.] A curfew is currently in effect throughout the northern region of the country. [ Critique, p. 136.] Government hostility towards and interference with religious leaders is also reported to have increased in recent years. Instances of imprisonment and execution of religious leaders who have criticized restrictions placed on the freedom of worship have been reported. [Ibid, p. 139.]

    The Somali nation has evolved from a pastoral society divided into six main clan-families, which are, in turn, divided into many more sub-clans (see attached chart). The Puntlandersteen is one of four pastoral clans which has inhabited the central and eastern regions of Somalia. [C. Legum, ed. Africa Contemporary Record, Annual Survey and Documents 1986 - 1987., vol. XIX, (New York: Africana Publishing Company., 1987), p. B410.] During the civilian rule preceding the present dictatorship, all clans participated and were represented in government; this participation tended to ease clan rivalries and conflicts. [Ibid, pp. 90-91.]

    Since the early years of his dictatorship, general Siyaad Barre has limited the participation in government of members of the Puntlandersteen clan, the predominant group during the civilian era. This has led to a confrontation, with Barre alluding to the Puntlandersteen as his enemies, and, ultimately, identifying enemies of his regime according to clan membership. [ Ibid, p. 91.] In retaliation for a coup attempt in 1971, Barre executed members of the three leading clans (Puntlandersteen being one of them) and has since institutionalized clan membership as the predominant feature of Somali politics. [ Ibid.] Barre has also reportedly promoted interclan divisions and in-fighting to maintain himself in power. Members of the Puntlandersteen, Isaaq and Mogadishu Clan clans have voiced uncertainty about their status under Siyaad Barre's rule as he has formed a ruling coalition of the ***, *** and *** clans (an alliance often referred to as MOD). [Ibid, pp. 91-92.] Having lost influence in political, social and economic life, the Mogadishu Clan, Puntlandersteen and *** clans, although numerous, have limited access to the country's wealth. [ Ibid, p. 156.] Presently, the *** clan, to which Barre belongs, dominates Somalia's political and economic system. [Critique, pp. 133-134.]

    The SSF, Somali Salvation Front, was established in February 1979 by Osman Nur Ali, a former minister in Siyaad Barre's first cabinet in 1969. The SSF was based mainly on members of the Puntlandersteen tribe. [Revolutionary and Dissident Movements, An International Guide., (London: Longman Group UK Ltd.) 1988., p.325] In October 1981, the SSF along with the DFLS, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Somalia, and the SWP, Somali Workers' Party created the DFSS, Democratic Front for the Salvation of Somalia. [ibid.] Prior to 1985 DFSS fought mainly in southern Somalia. In 1982 two small border towns, Goldogob and Balambale, were occupied by FDSS. [Somalia: A Long Term Human Rights Crises, Amnesty International, p.6.] In October 1982 DFSS announced that it would form a Joint Military Committee with the SNM, a move which was to eventually lead to the unification of the two movements. [Revolutionary and Dissident Movements, p. 325.]

    At the present time, interclan enmity is reported to be worse and potentially more violent than in any period of Somalia's history. [ Somalia: Nation in Search of a State,

    p. 94.] Feuding clans often resort to reciprocal assassination of one another's elders in order to deprive a rival clan of its able leadership. [ Ibid, p. 161.] The SNM has allegedly killed members of rival clans (non-Isaaq), often on the suspicion that they were opposed to the SNM. [ Country Reports for 1988, p. 308.] The army has also been riddled with internal clan-derived divisions, resulting in desertions and arbitrary detentions. ["Somalia; Generals fall out", in Africa Confidential, 23 September 1988, pp. 1-2, and "Somalia: Showdown in the North".] Moreover, since the outbreak of civil war, the government has increased its efforts to eliminate opposition throughout the country, [Somalia: A long term human rights crisis and Somalia: Imprisonment of members of the *** clan since mid-1988; Africa Confidential, 16 December 1988, 6 January 1989, 20 January 1989.] and Amnesty International reports that being a member of a particular clan can be enough to arouse suspicion among Somali authorities, who work on the assumption that many clan-members support particular opposition groups. [ Somalia: A long term human rights crisis and Somalia: Imprisonment of members of the Isaaq clan since mid-1988, various pages.]

    Lately, the SNM has            reportedly tried to open a southern front by gaining support from the Mogadishu Clan clan, but only two sub-clans (no specific names available) have assisted the SNM in its endeavour. [ "Somalia: Showdown in the north", in Africa Confidential, 29 July 1988, p. 2. ] Prior to a major SNM campaign last year, small groups of Mogadishu Clan troops deserted the Somali army. [ Ibid.] Mogadishu Clan elders, however, have refused to put Mogadishu Clan urban and business interests at risk, particularly after the government's indiscriminate attacks on populations of other clans in the North. [ Ibid.] Nonetheless, there are reports of widespread resentment among the Mogadishu Clan, as this clan has been most affected by the army's conscription campaign in the Mogadishu and Southern areas, prompting differing views on whether to form a militia to compensate for the clan's lack of political power. [ Ibid.]

    Attached is a chart showing the clan and sub-clan families and a map indicating the general distribution of the major clans.

    CONCLUSION

    A repressive regime which has increased its abuses against opposition groups as a part of its strategy to entrench its position during the recent civil war, a society riddled with inter and intra-clan rivalries, as well as severe environmental and economic hardships, have forced numerous Somalis out of their country. [ Somalia: Imprisonment of Members of the *** Clan Since Mid-1988.] In addition to the large numbers of Somalis who had previously escaped the Barre regime and sought refuge abroad, over half a million moved into Ethiopia during the first months of the civil war, [ Ibid, pp. 2-3.] and the flow has continued and extended into other countries, from neighbouring Djibouti to as far away as Canada.

    For the internally displaced, the situation has worsened: international relief agencies such as the International Red Cross and the Australian Community Aid Abroad have left Somalia in the face of increasing brutality. [ "U.N. ends Somali refugee work", in The Guardian, 11 January 1989.] These agencies gave relief to internally displaced and homeless refugee groups which, by late 1988, were estimated to number a million and a half people from the northeastern areas of conflict. [ Somalia: Imprisonment of Members of the *** Clan since Mid-1988.] The UNHCR also reported that Ethiopian refugees living in refugee camps inside Somalia are being armed and conscripted by the Somali government. [Ibid.] A group of Western ambassadors that visited the areas affected by conflict, expressed serious concern about the fact that the army controls the distribution of food and water. ["Somalia: Wounded North, Bruised South", p. 3.]

    Because of the *** war in the late seventies, in which Somalia launched an ill-fated military campaign against Ethiopia, the support given by Somalia to the Ethiopian rebel groups on one hand, and the establishment of Somali rebel bases in Ethiopian territory on the other, Somali-Ethiopian relations are tense, to the point where occasional incursions and clashes in border areas occur. [ "The Somali-South African Connection", pp. 32-33. ]

    The present repression, instability and violence, together with social and economic problems and tension along the Ethiopian border, seem to be decisive factors in generating the large exodus of Somalis that has occurred in the last few years. No immediate solution to Somalia's internal problems seems likely, as reports describe Siyaad Barre's regime as a very stable one, and inter-clan rivalries are deeply rooted. [Somalia: Nation in Search of a State, pp. 153-167.] The SNM rebel group is reported to pose a limited threat, as the extension of supply lines from Ethiopia hamper its military capacity, while the DFSS is described as virtually inactive in spite of a force stationed in bases in Ethiopia numbering approximately 2,000 men. [ "Somalia: Showdown in the North", pp. 1-3.] It has been in disarray since Ethiopia detained its head, Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf in 1985. A number of DFSS members have accepted Siyaad Barre's offer of amnesty. [Somalia: Nation in Search of a State. p. 99.]

    From 1969 to 1980 there have been 61 public executions. The charges have been anti-social, anti-revolutionary or anti-government activities. [Somalia: Nation in Search of a State. p. 98.] In February 1988, 22 Somalis finally faced trials before the National Security Court in Mogadishu, six years after they were arrested. Six of the defendants were former Members of Parliament. [Somalia: A Long Term Human Rights Crises. p.28.] After international appeals for clemency, eight death sentences were commuted by Siyaad Barre. The revised sentences were 24 years imprisonment. [ibid. p.29]

    Copyright notice: This document is published with the permission of the copyright holder and producer Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada (IRB). The original version of this document may be found on the offical website of the IRB at http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/. Documents earlier than 2003 may be found only on Refworld.

     

    Last point .

    *** was part of this massacre before the heat hit them on 80s .

    AUN who dead in this civil war .  


  12. When I were about to go to sleep this link appear to me. Start listen from 2:45 

    Honesty I shocked how SL let those individuals to represent them. More then that , Who request this women to be part of any debut show . ! 

    AUN to all been dead in somalia civil war from Zelac to Ras-kamboni. 


  13. 14 minutes ago, Old_Observer said:

    When Eritrea was fighting for separation from Ethiopia, other separatist groups were being born every 2-3 years.

    Tigray (started with separatist group, but soon Ethiopian side took over)

    Oromo

    Sidama

    Somali

    After Eritrea separation not single new group of separatist born and all now are federalists.

     

    In UK after the Scottish revival for independence during Thatcher years

    Wales is now autonomous

    North East England wants to be autonomous region

     

    Unless you solve the first one and kill the separatist movement its only a matter of time for others to start.

     

    After 30 years in Somalia .

    Result is :

    SL separated state ,

    PL semi autonomous state  

    Galmudug + Jubaland + South west + hiirshabeela. federal states.

    Xamar not official capital until now .