This is retarded secessionist logic which shows a yearning for the white man's rule. We do not recognize the secessionist borders, hell we do not even recognize the Ethiopian border. Indeed, if we look back the sultanate was an independent region with all the hallmarks of a political bureaucracy before the secessionists even learned of the meaning of law, back then we remember the Habar wars, bless their hearts, so one can go back to history and find bits that suits his agenda.

There is no neutral ground, Mr Carafaat. How can there be talks in Mogadishu, while it is not the capital according to the constitution. Also, 15 out of 16 districts are governed by one clan along with mayorship and governorship of Mogadishu and Banadir. Also, a lot of houses are occupied illegally by HAG extremists, how is this a neutral place to have talks? Not to mention that it is the place that the SFG is based, its the hometurf. Unless there was some sort of agreement to have several talks throughout the country as a sign of unity, I cannot see why that kind of plan should go ahead. I do not see this my friend, I am saddened that you do not either.

As ridiculous as it is, lets compare. Starks are too honourable to be from the secessionist region, nobody can be Starks. The secessionist Somalilanders are most likely Greyjoys, if we are speaking of great houses. They also declared independence from King's Landing. They are similar due to the fact that the secessionist region raids Sool, Sanaag and Haud villages just like the Ironborn raid across the Stony Shore. Their land is meaningless and doesn't produce anything worthwhile. I'd go with Greyjoys = Secessionists Targaryens = Kacaanists Lannisters = Puntis Baratheons = Mogadishu HAG Dothraki = Wisil HAG Unsullied = SPM faction Second Sons = Khaatumo Warrior Sons = Ceel Buur HAG Islamists

He should technically be arrested, this shows Somaliland hypocrisy, I am not fond of that. Duriyadda should take a strong stance on people who have kowtowed to Mogadishu, this man ran for president of Somalia, which would have been anti-Somaliland. But desperate times call for desperate measures, I am not surprised, just disappointed.

Wallahi this is one of the funniest articles I have read in Somali :D I can't stop laughing damn secessionists, I love them .

I like Faroole's foreign policy, his agenda in dealing with the national interests of Puntland, and the regional interests of the Somali federation. However on the domestic front, he has utterly failed and will be replaced soon.

:D Secessionists.

Tallaabo;958832 wrote: What a disgusting thread!! Came here out of curiosity only to have my nagging fears that Somalis are stup!d proven dramatically.

Saalax, don't commit suicide, we all know how this bothers you, but I don't know why, are you not from strong and powerful Somaliland, with state of the art military, economy and superior culture??

Come on secessionist boys, you sound like scorned housewives, do yourselves a favour and log off.

Yeah, I noticed that too but Apophis hit the nail on the head, look at the name, why be surprised??

Carafaat;958486 wrote: Somalia, its not true that the government has violated the constitution. In fact its stand towards Jubbaland is based on the constitution. This issue has been debated here extensively. And the outcome was that Parliament should establish a law regarding the states. But this here is a clear violation. Some would even say its treason to conspire with Kenya against the sovereignty of the nation. Actually they did violate it, they should have made a law, a commission would have been made and if there was any trouble constitutional court would decide the outcome. However, none of those things existed, thus it didn't apply to Jubbaland which fulfilled the 2 or more regions. Yes it has been debated, and your HAG niiko point debunked several times. This is not a violation per say, for several reasons. Secondly, WHICH SOVEREIGNTY? The sovereignty of the nation is already violated with the connivance of the president of Mogadishu, this is not a new thing, Somalia has been invaded since 1998. Faroole is there to discuss the issue of Jubbaland, a place Kenyans are controlling as we speak. IF you apply this treason charge, it should be against all Somali politicians. You are speaking from a HAG tongue with a secessionist mind, this makes our conversation fruitless, goodbye!

Carafaat;958480 wrote: Atleast they should uphold to the same constitution that they are basing their claims on. Laakinse dastuurkuu ayee ku tum tumaniyaa. Why should some be expected to uphold the rule of law while others should tremble upon it, iga jawaab?

Carafaat;958476 wrote: Jubbaland us not legitimate dee. It was a child conceived by a Kenyan, which makes it defacto illegal. That's because law and order does not compute with the likes of you, or the ones you twerk for. 1. A constitution was agreed upon. 2. HAG-moryaans changed it with the connivance of constitutional ministers. 3. You violated the parts left from the original constitution 4. You talk to us about nationalism. War ummaddaan yaa naga qabta... :eek:

What does that have to do with whether or not you think this is a violation of the constitution. If I recall, I don't remember Faroole making decisions in regards to foreign policy before the Mogadishu-based government took the decision to adopt a fake constitution and oppose a legitimate government in Kismayo. He simply held his poker card or shall I say JOKER card, the one you can't see coming, for a rainy day.

Carafaat;958449 wrote: Horta what does the constitution say about Foreign Affairs? Isnt that the sole authority of the central goverment? This is simply ' if you violate the constitution, so shall I' kinda thing.

Secessionist boys yesterday: Saalax;957372 wrote: Pictures? Caano_Geel;957410 wrote: Pics or it didn't happen. Xaaji Xunjuf;957510 wrote: Uhurro Kenyatta has no time for Faroole:D

Everyone is clueless, do not pretend otherwise, well done Odey.

Saalax;958155 wrote: Well Mogadishu, Somalia is not really his homeland. Why would he kiss some foreign soil. :D

:D

Chimera;957972 wrote: Please, if he were to go to South Africa you guys would scorn him for neglecting Somalia, its always a lose/lose situation for the President, but one victory after another for the country and its long-term interests. The Federal government in January appointed for the first time in two decades an ambassador to South Africa. Somalis over there need to mobilize and visit the embassy in Pretoria and speak with ambassador Sheriff, the President has bigger issues on his mind that affects 10-12 million people instead of 15 thousand. He has already neglected much of Somalia, and his policies don't seem to affect people other than those in Mogadishu and government appointed areas. Development doesn't seem to reach other parts of the country as well apart from the city state of Xamar. Take Saudis who gave a meaningless 24 million dollars credulously mentioning that the "first part" would take place in the capital. Take your nonsense elsewhere, we know who have benefited, just don't use the Somali people as a cover. Something such as this would be an area where people could and can not criticize him. Jacaylbaro;958008 wrote: Sometimes PR doesn't work like we think it is .......... ask me, I'm the expert in this field I see

Ok, I can not lie, I myself look Tamil according to some people, or used to, now I look Somali, but lets not generalize here shall we!! :eek:

Why isn't he taking advantage of the horror going on in South Africa. It ought to lighten his image during these troublesome times. He should go to South Africa, and make a huge deal out of the ordeal the Somalis are going through, bring some cameras, see him embracing the local diaspora and finish it off with a speech telling them to come home, there is peace etc etc, his PR team sucks.

Clearly it was hating, I don't know why you defending this secessionist boy, he has a lot of hatred in him, like the average secessionist of course, but does not accurately analyse the situation like you would do some instances, I can give you credit for that even though you are a secessionist fellow as well. I am very sure there are no pirates in Sri Lanka, except if you would qualify former Tamil Tigers as pirates, I am sure they hijacked some ships.

Why do you care about Abdiqasim, let him live.. Cajiib 3.0 edition!! Secessionist mindset is mind BUGGING, it reeks of hatred for their brothers, the Konfurians.