*sniff, sniff*

Now that we have established the fake facade that is 'somalinimo' amongst some of our esteemed contributors, lets hope the ‘I am more Somali than you’ mud is not tossed this way anytime soon. JB, the ICU was not perfect and could have handled things better but the ideology (when ironed out) represented something great. This time last year kids were playing football on Jazeera beach and today they are being shot

Anyone have any info on what happened in the last Ethio elections? Did the ONLF have a political wing? Did they win any seats? What is the number of Somalis in Ethiopia? etc I feel this is the only way for them to be 'free' ie if they take part in elections and 'win' a favourable situation, which leads to a period of peace and prosperity. 20 years down the line who knows they could be in charge and hold a referendum.

Originally posted by me: quote:Originally posted by Northerner: ^^No,,,, point made. What point was that then?

I don't think taking pictures of some geezers' back of the head was your biggest sin you committed on your adventures either. I did not see any green bushes, it was all dry, arid land saxib.

Jenna Govan: From Isolation to Islam By Selma Cook This article is based on an interview with Jenna Govan, from a Muslim revert Perth, Western Australia. Jenna Govan was born into an Australian family. Her parents divorced when she was young, and she grew up with her mother and younger brother. This small family went to church every Sunday until Govan was 10 years old. At first they used to go to the Seventh Day Adventist Church, later they went to the Baptist Church. Sometimes her grandmother would take Govan to Sunday school, and there Govan would hear the stories of the prophets that she loved. However, religion never entered her everyday life as she observes that praying was something she only did in church. When Govan was 10 years old, her mother remarried and the little girl had problems with her stepfather for some years. In her teen years, Govan started to rebel and got involved in drugs. It was then that she met her first husband who was a Muslim but was not a practicing one. Govan was in year 11 and he was in year 12. At that time, Govan recalls that she did not know anything about Islam or Muslims. However, her husband's friend, who was practicing Islam, gave her books about Islam and told her about the scientific miracles in the Qur'an. Govan remembers how she had never been convinced about the concept of Jesus from the Christian point of view, and she found the Islamic version very simple and logical. She made Shahadah when she was in her late teens and her husband proposed to her on the same day. Govan found herself in the Malay community in Australia, but the reaction she got disturbed her and made her feel sad. They said to her husband that marriage with an Australian girl would never work. Govan came to realize that many Muslims like to stick to their own communities, and she felt quite isolated. While she was married to her Malay husband, neither Govan nor her husband practiced Islam. However, they had friends who were practicing Muslims, and sometimes she would wear hijab when they were with them, but her husband would tell her that she could still be Muslim and stylish, so she gave up the idea of hijab at that time. Govan was quite confused about what Islam meant to her and how she should live it. She ultimately decided to leave her husband because he refused to practice Islam and teach her anything or encourage her to be better. He did not want to give up clubbing and drinking. Even though she knew only a little about Islam, she knew that such behavior is wrong. The marriage was over. He did not even try to get her or their son back. They went their separate ways. Govan then got her own place and started to make friends with practicing Muslims. She learned more and more about Islam, met other new Muslims, and started attending Islamic classes once a week. Two years ago, Govan remarried and her new husband is a practicing Muslim. She has another baby and currently studies commerce at university and still attends Islamic lessons. She is determined to try and help new converts. Govan says that her new Muslim family are very happy with her and have a "live and let live" attitude. They respect her for the hardships she has gone through and for the commitment she shows to her husband and children. Govan's mother thinks she is a bit fanatical, because she prays five times a day and wears hijab. Her mother came to this conclusion because she had seen so many other people who call themselves Muslims but did not do these things. However, Govan's mother likes the way her daughter's new husband takes care of her and the children and how he is so responsible and kind. Her mother has noticed that Govan is a better person. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Selma Cook is Managing Editor of the Youth Section and Volunteer Youth Resource Network at IslamOnline.net. She has written a number of books including: Buried Treasure (An Islamic novel for teenagers), The Light of Submission (Islamic Poetry). She has also edited and revised many Islamic books. She can be contacted at: youth_campaign@iolteam.com.

Can astrology be used to determine moon sightings for ramadan/eid etc?? I dont think so.

LooL Well its been ok over hear. Hot but not too humid. I hope i havnt spoken too soon,,,,

Needless to say speaking arabic will benefit you saxib. I was refering to Arabs being 'surprised' a Somali cant speak arabic when its not my first language.

^^Its not like that saxib. I'm sure most Somalis first language (spoken at home) was infact Somali. Expecting someone to be fluent in another language when its not their first langauge is plain wrong (even when ignorant to the facts). Should we be able to speak Arabic because we are Arab league members?

A good idea laakin a bit of a way to go dont you think? I took a five week class and passed with flying colours :cool: Couldnt be bothered after that,,,, Ahh, annoying when Arabs ask "Ma takalam carabii?" :mad:

^^Still with UDUB?

Originally posted by Ms Dhucdhuc & Dheylo: Was meaning to ask.. Did you know Arabic before you moved and if you didnt, how long did it take for you get grips with the lingo (if you got the hangs of it at all). I was just beginning to grasp the language then a flight to Heathrow took place. Its coming slowly but surely. Not the easiest language to learn and not the easiest place to learn it. Why you ask? Dont tell me, your Arabic improved recently?

Not you dee, your not Bridhish (not really)

Not sure what to make of this Ramadan could start on September 13, says astronomer WAM Published: August 20, 2007, 23:37 Sharjah: An Arab astronomer said that the month of Ramadan will begin on September 13. He also calculated that the first day of Eid Al Adha will fall on Thursday, December 20. The Dean of Humanities and Sciences College and Chairman of Arab the Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences Dr Humaid Al Nuaimi said that his estimations come in line with the calculations followed in UAE. The moon will be in the cirrostratus for the month of Ramadan of the year 1428, at 12:44 pm Greenwich Mean Time, of Tuesday, September 11, 16:44 UAE mean time, 15:44 Makkah mean time. The age of the moon in Abu Dhabi will be one hour 15 minutes, and this is not enough for the moon to be a viewed crescent, for the moon will go down before sundown in five minutes, hence it will be impossible to see the crescent in most Islamic countries. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wednesday, September 12, the crescent will be seen in most countries such as Australia, North and South America and South Africa. As for the Eid Al Adha, Arafat Day will be on December 19. http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Heritage_and_Culture/10148100.html

British people annoy me!

^^You could have just said we didnt take pics of people because we ARE the people. Only outsiders take pics of people

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Serenity has been to a British Military Fitness weekend and cannot move a muscle in her body without feeling incredible pain. She went mountain bike riding for 5KM in extreme conditions (I'm sure you've all seen what the weather was like last Saturday), did a mystery hunt for 1.5hrs on foot and jogging, an assault course and speed boat riding in the Isle of Wight. She is very happy to be back home but is feeling very confident and cannot blv she made through it alive and happy! Beat that for an adventure packed weekend peeps If ever there was a requirement to do military service then god help that counrty

Where is Penn & Teller's Bullsh!t show when one needs it He is walking on something submerged in the water.

Originally posted by Dabshid: quote:Originally posted by Dahia al Kahina: Dabshid, we need to find you a wife..! Are you available?

I have a problem with the author's misuse of the English language..... DD try 'Parle vou Francaise'

:eek: @Cambarro Xaraam caleek!

^^forget the doorstep, try the airport at 4am and calling you just to let you know they will be here for 2 weeks and the ask what hotel to go to,,,hint hint. "Hudhelada somalida waxaad ka heli xafada Deira" is a good leave me alone reply,,,

:confused: Excuse some of the images,,,,

air travel? Try Djbouti airport saxib!