Never heard anyone use it. Don't blame me

They're all the same to me. I prefer IE to the rest.

Ceeriyaamo? :confused:

Ligament damage. I should for an MRI scan really but it's getting better. Couple of weeks and I should be playing again IA. Barafkii ma qaaday?

I'm comfort eating until my ankle heals

Waiting over an hour for my KFC

Your comments deserved the ‘gross generalisations’ purely because of how you chose to present them. Shall we go back to what you said earlier? However, if a person believes in concepts of basic human civility then is there a need for religion? Since I challenged your above assertion you have been quick to point the finger at the Church, champion enlightenment and, as per usual, have dig at Islam. All this without really addressing what I asked. Let me ask again: The civility you're referring to has routes in religion does it not? Remember we are talking about INDIVIDUAL civility which, in my opinion, was present before ‘the enlightenment’ and was the result of people taking up religion to be their way of life. ‘Treat thy neighbour well’ and all that as well as, funnily enough, the 10 commandments you’ve just acknowledged. If you’re of a different opinion, feel free to present it to me without the red herrings and aggrieved apostate commentary.

horta xisbiyada waqooyiga qabiil toos ah miyaa? There is little diversity in who supports who but the actual make up (the main leaders) tend to be from different clans.

Originally posted by ailamos: quote:Originally posted by Norfsky: Ah, so before 'the enlightenment', Europeans, on an idividual level, were low down dirty mongrels? I see where you're going with this... on a personal level Europeans, instead of being guided by their own reason, were guided exclusively by what the Church had laid down. This guidance included a distinct mentality that if one does not conform to the teaching of the Church then one is deemed a heretic and be put to death or tortured. A similar notion to what we see in the Islamic world today. Is that so? In conclusion, because of the Church, people were un-civil then 'enlightenment' occured and all that changed. Funnily enough I don't think people were savages before 'enlightenment' ps silly comments won't be entertained. Unless you give us a basis (for the silly comments) of course pps is 'civility' based on what govenments/establishments do? Correct yourself

Afternoon all Is it Blue Monday today?

@ Peacenow Keep living as a second class citizen saxib. Let me guess, you've never been to an Arab country?

Ah, so before 'the enlightenment', Europeans, on an idividual level, were low down dirty mongrels?

Whoever took the pics needs a few lessons in photography. Abysmal!

I do enjoy seeing you all get ahead of yourselves I won't bother with LG However, if a person believes in concepts of basic human civility then is there a need for religion? The civility you're refering to has routes in religion does it not? Or was Europe a shining example of 'civility' before Chritianity (mainly) and Islam (The Moores) reached it's shores?

Kan oo la qayilsiiyo ka warama Good try. Somali-Romani-Algeri connect I see.

Originally posted by Peacenow: quote:Originally posted by Norfsky: I have been to Italy and the blatant racism is there for all to see which is why I'm not surprised here. Peacenow, do you say 'Yes Sir/Maam' 'Right away Sir/Maam' etc when replying to your masters erm erm I mean your Italian friends? My master is noone but myself. Unlike you islamist, i have respect. I have a job and we own our own flat. We don't take no money from any government to feed us or to house us. You believe in this bankrupt islamism yet you walk in the white man's streets and take his welfare check. Move to afghanistan or saudi arabia and I will at least have respect for you. You live in a place where people treat you as a second class citizen. No matter how much supposed wealth you may amass you will be treated no different to the illegal immigrants selling sun shades on the streets. You own a flat? Good for you. But I bet your neighbours still think you're the help ps see my location below

^where in Dubai and how long are you here for?

Bad news for Peacenow. He will never be accepted. Stuck in the dark ages John Leicester Mario Balotelli endures abuse that no 19-year-old should suffer – for no other reason than because he is black. There is the graffiti on walls leading to the San Siro, where the Inter Milan striker plays. “Non sei un vero Italiano, sei un Africano nero,” it says. Translation: “You are not a true Italian, you are a black African.” There are the unprintable racist chants and vicious boos he hears when he plays, and which live on even after matches are over in videos on the Internet. There was the time in Rome last June when, his sister says, hooligans threatened him and hurled a bunch of bananas into the bar where Balotelli was relaxing with fellow players from Italy’s Under 21 squad, prompting the owner to call the police. And what have the Italian league done in response to the insults he regularly faces? Unbelievably, they slapped Balotelli with a €7,000 (Dh37,000) fine last week. “It’s like the world is upside down,” Cristina Balotelli says. “It’s ridiculous, and I think my brother just doesn’t want to think about it because he is so disgusted.” In a fairer world, all you would need to know about Balotelli is that he is young, gifted, quick, muscular, scores goals and is nicknamed “Super Mario”. He joined Inter in 2006. He made his first-team debut in December of the following year, aged just 17, as a late substitute in a 2-0 win against Cagliari. Two days after that, he scored twice in a 4-1 crushing of Reggina. With 23 goals in 68 games, a call-up to Italy’s national squad may not be far off. But the racists do not see Balotelli’s skills, just the colour of his skin. Even when Inter are not playing, he has been targeted for abuse. Prosecutors in France are investigating taunts about Balotelli that Juventus supporters shouted when the club played French champions Bordeaux in the Champions League last November. Juventus fans again sang racist slurs directed at Balotelli on Wednesday, despite a plea made over Stadio Olimpico’s public address system asking them to stop. Speaking by phone with The Associated Press, Cristina Balotelli said it is a testament to his force of character that her brother manages not to be cowed by the hatred flowing from a vocal minority of “very ignorant people” who “need an enemy and they need someone to curse”. “He gets very upset but then ... he doesn’t think about it any more, this is a strength,” his sister says. “Of course, I know that he is hurt. If he decides to move abroad, it shouldn’t just be because of this. It’s like to run away, it’s like to be defeated.” It is nothing new in Italy. In 2001, when 18-year-old Nigerian forward Schengun Omolade took the field for Treviso, fans hoisted a banner that said, “We don’t want a black player on our team” and then left the stadium. Before that, hooligans in Rome held aloft a large banner aimed at opposing Jewish fans: “Auschwitz Is Your Country; the Ovens Are Your Homes.” In 2005, Ivorian defender Marc Zoro was reduced to tears by racist boos and insults hurled at him by Inter supporters. There have been modest fines, bans and threats from up high that matches could be suspended or that clubs could even be sent down to lower leagues. And yet, as Balotelli knows too well, still it goes on. Deep-rooted racism is not restricted to Italian football – as was shown last week when violent clashes erupted between African crop-pickers and local residents in southern Italy. After those riots, in which dozens were injured, Cristina Balotelli found herself fending off calls from reporters looking for comment from her brother, as if he must have something to say as one of the few high-profile black Italian success stories. That, in itself, suggests how widely Balotelli is marked out for his colour in Italy. “I said, ‘What has my brother got to do with this?”’ she says. “We don’t have black politicians. He became a symbol of too many things.” At times it all becomes too much for the 19-year-old. A week ago in Verona, in a match Inter won thanks to Balotelli’s lone goal, he again heard insults and boos. In response, Balotelli mocked the crowd, ironically applauding when he was substituted and by saying in a post-match TV interview that “the fans are more and more sickening”. The Italian league’s fine followed the next day. If Inter’s subsequent appeal is rejected, then it will be a victory for hooligans. “He just applauded for two seconds,” his brother, Corrado, said. “It’s crazy.” Stuck in the dark ages

What is this new Teves celebration?

^as opposed to the Vatican?

The sun is 35% obscured ight NOW. Took one look and my eyes are still funny. Heard a takbeer at the mosque at 10.30am and thought my watch was wrong as I was still getting ready for Jumca.

LG, I think Ayoub and Cara (last sentence) best summed up this 'debate'. You choose to ignore what you think is detrimental to your argument (freedom of religion etc) and carry on with the secondary issue of the niqaab and whether it is required in Islam (which is irrelevant in the whole scheme of things) even though you're yet to bring anything to the table in this regard apart from questions I won't waste anymore of my time debating with you. I did try folks

LG, as usual you can't see the wood for the trees. Is your whole argument for a ban because it's not, in your view, obligatory to wear the niqaab? Is that it? Nothing else? 1. Do a google search to find arguments for and against (I'm sure you're capable of doing that). Once you've done that, copy and past it here and use that as a basis for your argument (debate/discussion 101). That will be one part of the argument. The second and in my view the most important part of the argument is the FREEDOM TO PRACTICE RELIGION in the west. This is where you've hopped skipped and jumped. So I ask you, is the your stance relevant if someone BELIEVES wearing the niqaab is obligatory and is FREE to practice that belief?

She did her research exclusivekly in Karama.

^damn get well dear. Sheh, long haul miya? Somewhere tropical? Going back to you Asian people again? Ngonge, pull some strings and get someone to buy Liverpool Football Club