NGONGE;740776 wrote: Yes. I watched the game live, I always watch the games live (if they're on TV). I also watched on MOTD and then got to watch it all over again on LFC TV. I'll even probably watch it again tonight (if the Arsenal game turns out to be a boring one). p.s. When I say "watch", I actually follow the flow of game and not the ball, like you and Ayoub. Why do you need to watch the game 3 or 4 times? Can't you form an opinion after you have seen it live (once)? Aar bahasha baro

^did you watch the game? I mean live and not just MOTD highlights heh

NORF is a typical Ciyaal Ingriis Laakin hada odayoobaya My mental pic of XX is a bald guy with glasses

^ Not a bad read. I can see where he is coming from. Especially here: Before Ramadan, each married couple or family unit strategically “claims” out a weekend in advance during Ramadan to host their Iftar party. You have to quickly send your Facebook evite, because those slots fill up damn quick. What happens when you have competing iftar parties? Where do you go? Whom do you choose? The invites tend to flood in from week 2

I remember heading to SL in '07 and JB telling me he is Hargaisa. I was like really? I thought he was in Canada somewhere because of his Baro associates BOREDOM. Need I say more? Old boy should revive it for the newbies.

It has gone by so fast. Approaching the time when very little is enough for both afur iyo suxuur.

Best article written so far on the UK riots. Raw with grief, in a voice steady but tight with emotion, his appeal for calm on Wednesday was a beacon of hope amid the tumult and carnage of a horribly dark week for Britain. Hours before he spoke, Tariq Jahan had lost his 21-year-old son Haroon, murdered in the Winson Green area of Birmingham by thugs who drove at him in their car in what appears to have been a racist attack. No one could be more aware of the simmering racial tensions between Asians in his neighbourhood and those of Caribbean ancestry. Yet Mr Jahan had the dignity, the compassion and the common sense to demand an end to the violence that had shattered his life. ‘Blacks, Asians, whites — we all live in the same community,’ he said. ‘Why do we have to kill one another? Why are we doing this? Step forward if you want to lose your sons. Otherwise, calm down and go home — please.’ Mr Jahan made an open and straightforward declaration of his faith. ‘I’m a Muslim. I believe in divine fate and destiny, and it was his destiny and his fate, and now he’s gone,’ he said. ‘And may Allah forgive him and bless him.’ It was a solemn, peaceful message that will make everyone who stereotypes Muslims as terrorists and fanatics feel ashamed of themselves. Tariq Jahan is a deeply impressive man, and like the great majority of Muslims in this country, he is hard-working, clean-living, guided in his conduct by religious belief, and unshakeable in his devotion to the ideal of family life. In London at the height of the riots, we saw another clear expression of faith when more than 700 Sikhs lined up to defend their temples from potential arsonists in the suburb of Southall to the west of the capital. The Sikhs have a proud tradition of valuing each human being, male and female, as equal in God’s eyes. Theirs is a religion in which family is paramount. We do not know the size of the bank balance of those Sikhs, any more than we know how wealthy are the Muslims of Winson Green. From looking at the streets and houses where they live, and the shops where they buy their food, it is safe to assume that they are not rich. It is probable, too, that their teenagers would like to have large-screen televisions and fashionable trainers and BlackBerries. But you can pretty well guarantee they would not have been among the looters. Instilled into them would have been the importance of working hard for money to buy these things, rather than hurling a brick through a shop window to help themselves. Paramount among their moral values would be concern for others, a sense of altruism that could not be more different from the sense of self-entitlement that been so grotesquely on display this week. The reason for this is that they are from religious families. All the main religions are unshakeable when it comes to self-evident truths about right and wrong; about stealing, harming others, coveting goods, instant gratification and so on. ‘Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing wonder and awe, the more often and the more seriously reflection concentrates upon them: the starry heaven above me and the moral law within me’. So wrote the greatest philosopher of the 18th-century, Immanuel Kant, in 1788 in his work of moral philosophy, the Critique of Practical Reason. It was in 1991 — and the memory is still vivid — that I interviewed Immanuel Jakobovits on his retirement as Chief Rabbi in Britain, and he told me that it was on the basis of Kant’s quotation that his father had named him Immanuel. During that interview, Rabbi Jakobovits — who died in Israel in 1999 and was said to have been Margaret Thatcher’s favourite clergyman — stressed the absolute centrality of family life to our learning the paths of virtue. His parting message as he retired, not only to the Jewish community but also to the British people, was that marriage and family life need to be learned; that if necessary we should have classes for young people, teaching them the importance of family life, of how to bring up children, how to discipline them kindly but firmly, and how to instil the sense of that moral law within. Today, we live in a society where religion is something for which apologies must be made. A Christian woman working for British Airways who wears a cross round her neck is asked to remove it for fear of offending other people. A nurse who prays with a patient in hospital is committing an almost criminal act. Catholic adoption agencies which disapprove of gay adoptive parents on religious grounds have their licences taken away. And all the while, our governing classes and academics and teachers chip away at the fundamental truths of the great religions — truths that have stood the test of time for thousands of years — in their arrogant certainty that there are no moral absolutes and that the human race can make up the rules as it goes along. At the nuttier fringes of the chattering classes there are those, like the geneticist Richard Dawkins and the journalist Christopher Hitchens, who actually believe that religion is a mental poison responsible for all the evils in the world. The misguided and vacuous thinking of these so-called intellectuals is compounded by a sordid celebrity-culture which holds up role models who should be despised rather than admired. Amy Winehouse, a pathetic drug-infused alcoholic girl of very modest talent, is held up as great diva; and when she died, her house was surrounded by fans, laying empty vodka bottles as a ‘tribute’. Jade Goody, the foul-mouthed, racist daughter of a pimp and drug-pusher who died of a heroin overdose in the lavatory of a Kentucky Fried Chicken, appears on Big Brother and becomes a heroine despite — or because of — her ignorance and tendency to strip off in front of the cameras. Fornicating footballers, who swagger through public lives dripping with gold and jewellery, parading the vulgar acquisitions of their vast wealth — whether it is fleets of fast cars or call girls, are venerated by generations who have never so much as heard of the very real heroes of history. In the absence of a moral law, we see a decline in standards in all walks of life. Bankers continue to fill their boots even after they have brought the country to the brink of bankruptcy; politicians fiddle expenses and see no reason to resign when they have committed wrongdoings; town hall fat cats pay themselves ever greater salaries as Britain slips further into debt. By contrast, every day, Muslim men like Tariq Jahan go to the mosque and fall prostrate before the mystery which Immanuel Kant knew lay at the heart of existence. The Sikhs likewise build temples because they feel awe at the starry heavens above them and the moral laws within their hearts — laws which all men, women and children can recognise when they reflect deeply and in silence. The catalogue of the great men and women in the past hundred or so years — from Leo Tolstoy in Russia, to Mahatma Gandhi in India, from the Lutheran student Sophie Scholl executed by guillotine aged 22 for her part in a resistance movement to Hitler, to Archbishop Tutu presiding over the peaceful Truth and Reconciliation committees in South Africa — has been the same. All these people have held fast to values which they believed ultimately to be eternal and God-given. Go back 100 years to Winson Green, to Southall, and to Wolverhampton, and to all the other scenes of urban violence scarred by horror in the last week. The years before and after World War I were marked, for the people who lived in these places, by very great economic hardship. The poverty endured by the inhabitants of Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham and the poor parts of London led to great programmes of political and social reform. But the crime rate among the people themselves was much, much lower than it is today. All sorts of reasons have been adduced for this. But there is surely a very simple one that towers over all the others. In each of these places, there were chapels, often Methodist, which kept alive the human capacity for awe at the starry heavens above and the moral law within. Not everyone attended the services, though thousands did. Nearly everyone, however, in these communities, whether church or chapel, subscribed to the idea that Good and Evil are given things, not human inventions. I suspect that when time passes and we look back on this week, it is the religious sincerity of Tariq Jahan that we shall remember. All of us — Muslims, Sikhs, Jews, Hindus, Christians — have a rich religious inheritance. At the core of this inheritance is a sense of right and wrong. And in all these religions, the school where we learn of right and wrong is the family. Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and Hindus have all, very noticeably, retained this twin strand of family structure and ethical teaching. The events of the past week have shown the enormous value of a living religious faith. Not only was Tariq Jahan more impressive than any of the commentators or politicians who spouted on the airwaves this week. He was more human. By his religious response to his son’s death, he humanised not only the dreadful and immediate tragedy. He showed us that without a religion we are all less than human. Edited to fit. Read full article at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2025393/UK-riots-Haroon-Jahan-death-Legacy-society-believes-nothing.html

Nina Fox;740351 wrote: 2 and a half pieces of Weetabix -------with warm milk (It is a guaranteed remedy for the tiring dayz ahead) Aheeey Make that 3 followed by rehydration drinks (Pokka Sportswater). Sets you up for the day.

^UAE or Kuwait?

No Arsenal fans in here. Ninkii LOZ ya arkay?

^ If this was the Arabs waa laga shakiyi lahaa.

^Do you know that only Chelsea accummulated more points than Liverpool post the King's return? Most of those layers are still there. If he had taken charge last summer the same points tally would have got us 2nd. We're not as far off as many think. Alot of so called football pundits don't give us a chance of finishing in the top 4. Agreed we still need a decent defender and left back. We also need a striker but Raheem Sterling from the youth team will be in the squad I hope. I'm tempted to make a bold prediction but will give 10 games or so

NGONGE;739925 wrote: I have a feeling that missing SOLERS are going to come back today. I wonder who it will be! The reason being its nearly the weekend and they can relax a little? Got this off a friend's fb status Ogaysiis Ogaysiis, Markii ay ciyaalka reer London bilaabeen BOOB-ka Iyo Bililiqada ayaa waxa iyaduna aad ubadattay oo cirkaas isku shareertay IIBSIGA-ama-GADASHADA ay dadku iibsanayaan AALADAHA la isku difaaco, Sida BUDHADH-ka ookale oo ay dadku aad uga iibsanayaan ONLINE sida EBAY ookale, si'ay nafahooda ugu difaacaan haddii lasoo waararo maadaama oo ay arkeen POLICE-kii difaaci lahaa oo isagii laftiisii ciyaalkii baacsanayaan. Khasaaare kastaaba faaiido-leh" ayaan maqli jirey e waxan markaa go'aansaday inaan furto DUKAAN iibiya "BUDHADH-ka", Hadaba, iyadoo ay dalabaadkuna aad ubadan-yihiin qofkii ubaahani wuu igasoo dalban karaa, si dhakhso ah intaan laga dhamaysan, adigoo kusoo dalbanaya magaca nooca aad rabtid, sida, SUUXIYE, GAGABIYE, LAGAMAKACE, CIYAAL-BUGAAXE, FISH&CHIPS-LAAYE, iyo qaar-kaloo badan.

Thanks Turkey.

Valenteenah.;739973 wrote: Caku iyo Somali leaders who can't organise a piss-up in a brewery. :D

NGONGE;739915 wrote: Very good Columbo but you and I both know the ELC doesn't sell such stuff ps that guy in loads of shots

It will never beat LA riots but similar circumstance.

G to floor 124 takes about 90s seconds

The thread title should be changed to UK Riots. The UK needs to take a long hard look at itself. What did Eton boy say? 'Big Society'?

Glad its called off. Don't want our players injured before Sat. It might kick off in Wembley anyway heh

Wonder if Ghadaffi will recognise the rioters as the leaders of the UK?

Where are the Londoners today? All at home I bet. The wusses.

The AC community is established has been around since the 60s and pretty much become 'integrated' into society. The problem the BNP sees is the lack of 'integration' by those who stick with their own culture and beliefs more. This is their focus.

They've passed the stage of being classed a immigrants. Far right parties don't see them as the devil any longer. Its Muslims and immigrants post 1990s/2000s.

Its not immigrants who are doing this (they're all fasting heh)