Its funny. They say the best solution is a negotiated one. I mean, could they not come up with another excuse? They've been involved with the negotiations for 40 years!

Oz, did you watch the game? How did Meireles play?

Does he? Apart from portraying him as having a few screws loose, he doesn’t come anywhere near addressing Chomsky’s weightier piece.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/09/201191223127667411.html Arab states will push for a fully-fledged Palestinian state at the United Nations next week, the Qatari prime minister has said despite a US threat to block such a move. Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani, Qatar's prime minister and foreign minister, told a late Monday night consultation session that he hoped the gathering would support the Arab plan to take the Palestinian bid for statehood to the UN General Assembly. "The Arabs had agreed to apply to the United Nations for a full-fledged Palestinian state with its capital East Jerusalem," al-Thani, chairman of the follow-up committee on the Palestinian UN bid, said at the start of the meeting. He did not mention the option of taking a resolution to the Security Council and forcing the US to fulfill its pledge to cast a veto. "We will review in this meeting the steps taken to go to the UN, because this is an Arab demand," he said. US President Barack Obama said on Monday that if the Palestinians try to achieve statehood in the UN Security Council, the US will oppose the proposal. "If this came to the Security Council we would object very strongly, precisely because we think it would be counterproductive. We don't think that it would actually lead to the outcome that we want, which is a two state solution," he told the Spanish service of the German Press Agency dpa and other Spanish-language media in an interview. "What we've said is that going to the UN is a distraction, does not solve the problem," he said. "This issue is only gonna be resolved by Israelis and Palestinians agreeing to something." The Palestinians currently hold UN "observer" status. They decided to seek UN recognition of statehood after years of failed negotiations with Israel. They could also seek lower status as a "non-member state", which would require a simple majority of the 193-nation Assembly. Adel Iskandar, a professor at the Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University in Washington, told Al Jazeera that the Palestinian Authority of Mahmoud Abbas has nothing else to market itself on. "This is the crisis that they face. It's a crisis of legitimacy, a crisis of accountability." Strategy not clear Diplomats have said the strategy Palestinians plan to adopt when the UN General Assembly opens on September 19 is not yet clear. Earlier on Monday, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, who is in Cairo for talks with officials at an Arab foreign ministers' meeting on the UN bid for Palestinian statehood, said the EU has still not decided on a united position yet. Ashton, speaking after meeting Egypt's foreign minister Mohamed Kamel Amr in Cairo, said: "There is no resolution on the table yet, so there is no position." "What we're very clear about from the European Union is that the way forward is negotiations," she said. "We want to see a just and fair settlement, we want to see the people of Palestine and the people of Israel living side by side in peace and security, and I will do everything I can to help achieve that." Ashton left the meeting minutes after it began, saying that the EU believed that a Palestinian state should come through negotiations. Palestinian officials say that the European Union was waiting to see the text of the UN resolution to recognise Palestine. President Mahmoud Abbas, heading the Palestinian delegation to the meeting at the Arab League headquarters in Cairo, has been under US pressure not to go ahead with the UN bid. Before the meeting began, he met with the head of the Arab League, Nabil Elaraby, to discuss the main elements of the Palestinian resolution, Egypt's state news agency MENA said. He also met separately with Ashton.

nuune;745822 wrote: From Wikileaks: Innaa Lillaahi Wa Innaa Ilayhi Raajicuun, upon reading this, it is clear that madaxda reer Somaliland iney shacabkooda lugooya un u hayaan as they don't know anything about siyaasad, and that they are just there to travel around and enjoy the diplomatic paradise of being a leader. Dee Riyaalaa meesha joogey

^thanks. Will watch Baashi. Ok.

Thanks for the lesson guys. Will try to remember. SS, welcome back. How has the new school year started?

Liqaye;745685 wrote: Hahaha did you include puntland under that catch all phrase? It includes every 3rd world country at the clutches of the UN/IMF/World Bank/NGOs.

^I know but the approvals do (IATA). Djibouti Air is owned by an Emarati.

nuune;745684 wrote: Norf, does Daallo have a booking system of flights on their website or they are dependent on agents etc, they have being saying flight booking system is coming soon for 2 years now, I guess Jubba Airways is much ahead with their newly installed booking system. These things take time saxib. A lot of approvals required and the system is quite pricey. Jubba seem to be ahead of the rest as they recently installed the system. Daallo and African are a bit slow on the uptake of internet based software.

^Note I wrote government's'

Congrats to Nehanda and hubby. All the best.

^are sure they are antibiotics and not something else? Meeshaas ma trustgareeyo

They actually stopped you?

There desperately needs to be a change in the psyche of these governments. The number of consultants and NGOs on the ground doing little to nothing is staggering. I doubt there are basic checks done at inception or any monitoring during their work. Are they required? What is the benefit? How will it be measured? It’s a free for all (and a few brown envelopes help).

Afternoon all. Juxa you were speeding? The speed camera probably had no film.

somalee;745517 wrote: :D very funny, su'aasha kale aad u boodeysid adigoon tii hore ka jawaabin waxay ka dhigantahay inaad ka jawaabtay oo kale. Tusaale, markii lagu yiraahdo ''reerkii ka waran'' adiguna weydiiso ''caafimaadka ka waran'' reerkii way nabad qabaan adigoo yidhi oo kale weeyaan. Or else reerkii kawaran markii lagu yiraahdo maadan adiguna ku boodi lahayn ''caafimaadka ka waran'', you'd have said something like, ''Shalay bay ayeeyo dhimatay'' or ''Abti ayaa cagta laga gooyay''. I hope it made sense. Gartay

The Image War Omaar Rageh - AJE http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/2011/09/201195112531537893.html

The Zack;745457 wrote: Liverpool 0 Stoke: 1 Norf knew this was coming, NGONGE didn't. Ngonge lives on another planet

Baashi;745239 wrote: Gents with waqooyi accent the door is wide open Somalee has put her cards on the table somalee;745486 wrote: Nin baan ahay sxb :D Don't have a problem with accents. Laakin marka aan nin xamar ka yimid (odayaasha) isa salaamayno wax kaama jawaabaayo. Eg, you ask the usual questions and vice versa. You respond with "alxamdullilah the family are fine, how are you and hows the family?" He will ask you another question like "how are your parents" you respond and ask again "reerki ka waran" he will not answer and ask you another question like 'shaqadii ka waran" and by then you give up and keep smiling The Arabs do the same thing.

More evidence for the conspiracy theorists http://www2.ae911truth.org/ppt_web/10min/slideshow.php

Chomskt takes no prisoners http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/20119775453842191.html

Poor performances by Adam, Kuyt and Henderson. Chelsea look good. Not performing too well but winning. A good sign.

Sayid missed out