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Today is the 34th aniversary of Ethiopian jets attack elementary schools in Borama.

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galbeedi   

You probably heard a lot of people talk about Somali air force bombing the SNM positions in Hargeisa or even the city to dislodge the city from rebels.

 

Yey, few Somalis know that 66 students , teachers, civilians  and bystanders  killed , while hundreds were wounded in Borama in 1984 by the Ethiopian warplanes. The people of that city were innocent, and their only crime was they were loyal Somalis.

 

In fact, this bombing did happen after members of the WSLF movement who were fighting for the liberation of Somali Galbeed attacked the Djibouti-Ethiopia train.

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galbeedi   

In order to retaliate from the actions of the rebels, they chose Borama as their target.

 

There were other Somalis in the Sool and Nugaal valley who lost tens of thousands of people and fighters during the struggle of the great Darwiish. That movement was decimated by British planes of the early 20th century. After the Daraawiish members came out from their fortified forts after the bombing of the planes , tens of thousands  of Daraawiish were machine gunned while the rest were bombed from the air.

 

It was the biggest mass death of Somalis in the modern history, yet most Somalis do not know.

 

THese were Galayr's ancestors who paid the ultimate price for the Somali freedom.

 

After one hundred years, a new struggle is taking shape to make this people free from  the secession which  the land their grandfathers have died for  and the colonial ploy of dismembering Somalia.

 

Folks, we have nothing against the people of Hargeisa and Burco, but we must stop this colonial project of pitting Somalis against one another  for the dismemberment of their nation.

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34 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

 

There were other Somalis in the Sool and Nugaal valley who lost tens of thousands of people and fighters during the struggle of the great Darwiish. That movement was decimated by British planes of the early 20th century. After the Daraawiish members came out from their fortified forts after the bombing of the planes , tens of thousands  of Daraawiish were machine gunned while the rest were bombed from the air.

 

It was the biggest mass death of Somalis in the modern history, yet most Somalis do not know.

 

 

galbeedi,

I read the complete report which I think was maakhiri1 that posted a link from the British Gazette.

Crrect me if I am wrong, but I only learned two things:

1. The Somali is a brave fighter no matter which side or organziation he is

2. The Darawiish was its own worst enemy

 

Such movements are always not celebrated by whole country. The Weyannie is for example most hated by Amhara, but most celebrated by Afar, Tigray and Agew and tolerated or admired by most in Ethiopia except Amahara and allies.

It was a movement against King Haileslassie in 1942. The British had to put it down by 8,000 their army on ground and planes not being enough from Asmara, they had to bring from yemen. The British used the same fireball bombs they later used in Germany like Dresden.

 

The Darawiish are celebrated by some, tolerated by others and to some degree disliked by some. Such movements as heroic as they are are not so good of an instrument of unity or appeal.

That is probably why you do not see Somali politicians tripping each other to galavanize people using Darawiish.

 

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galbeedi   

Actually in the Somali modern history the Daraawiish are considers the icons of Somali nationalism. Of course it's leader Sayid M. might be blamed by certain Somalis of his ruthlessness, but in history what counts is actions and the legacy.

 

Churchill was a drunken sailor at times and buffoon at best in his early politics, yet in British history , he is an icon because he made a great speech to galvanize the public and he eventually defeated the Nazis. That is what counts in history.

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I agree the Darawiish value in nationalism, bravery, even their military tactics and lasting as long as they did against the most capable of all empires. If it was Ottomans, French, Italians, Belgians, Portugeuese etc would have given up.

If it wasn't British encouragement, supply and support King menelik had given up. The Sayid himself in person came to Arussi which is close to Addis Ababa and returned to Somali areas unharrassed.

 

 

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Holac   
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While other Somalis are on a 40 year wandering on the wilderness and chaos, Somalilanders have, despite a lot of obstacles (including Galbeed's like), achieved good things. It is a prove that we are on the right track.

 

Suldaanka,  you are also expected to acknowledge the achievement of other areas of Somalia that achieved relative peace with substantial gains in education, infrastructure, business and governance. Choas and destruction are not everywhere. 

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Oodweyne   

Suldaanka,

 

The problem with the likes of our Galbeedi, is that not only is he logically incoherent (in the worst possible way). But he is also, at best of times, historically illiterate. Hence, what he says in most days around here concerning Somaliland, actually amount to nothing more that over-heated cheap sloganeering and waffling rhetoric at best. Or down right empty assertions that has no "sliver of acquaintance" with the reality of Somaliland as we have come to know it. 

 

And by that I mean, his thought, putting in a nutshell, is that he has no "hostility" to the folks of Hargeisa and Burco (as he put it). Which in turn one could say to him, thanks for the decent sentiment. But, still, that is not the issue at hand, is it, as you have shown him in your cogent reply to him.

 

And secondly, he says his intention, or at least in so far as the political intention of those who are similarly disposed to his "version of reality" is concern, is to say that they are against the very idea of this "Colonial project". Indicating, that, he hold Somaliland to be nothing less than a "Colonial project". And therefore, he is minded to stop it all together. Now that may be his "reading" of things. But is that really the end of it? Of course not. And in fact, it is far from it.

 

In other words, it never did occurred to him (and if it did occurred to him, he seems to be belaboring  under a poor understanding of it) that, historically speaking, Somaliland may have started life as a colonial border-demarcation project. But since then it has took a life of its own. At least  in so far the remainder of the era it had existed under thre British rule, after it was initially created back in 1880s.

 

And more crucially of all, it has developed a deep woven into the very marrow of the folks, from Hargeisa and Burco, whom he keep on "patronizing" them as a folks that he has nothing against them.

 

Furthermore, it never seems to occurred to him (although on the page, he come across as a bright man) that, Somaliland may have been registered on the "History registers" as an issue that had started, life, as British's colonial adventure in the horn-of-Africa, with the "protectorate treaties" that created being entered into with the local clans of the area, to boot.

 

But it has since "devolved" as a "political inheritance" that has "morphed" into a functioning quasi-state, in which, the clans that have did indeed entered into the original treaties with the Brits, could now claim to own it, or at least "majority" of those clans could now, justifiably, can claim to own it that "political patrimony" which started life as a Colonial adventure in Map-making in the horn-of-Africa. 

 

Hence, he never put in his calculation, that, whatever the origin of this Somaliland may have been that as today and here of now really is "emotionally irrelevant". And, crucially, what matters now to these folks who currently "own" it, are the really the "current deeds" as a legal patrimony, that is the historical inheritance that they now have.

 

And therefore, since what is being discussed right now is what belongs (in concrete fashion) to the very folks who live in places in Hargeisa and in Burco, who to boot he keep on telling them that he has no "hostility" toward them, effectively means your "allegedly benign intention" has little in substance,  if on the other hand, you really are after the complete political "destruction" of the very "legal property" they seems to have now.

 

And that in turn means, that he really is illogical in the sense of not wishing some folks any "harm" towards them, while on the same breadth and on the same time, telling them that he has every intention to see the "destruction" of the very house they actually "own" today, not yesterday.

 

And what is tragically for him, or at least lamentably incoherent about him, is that he actually had not travel that long in "reasoning process" in his own mind to actually determine where the interest of the folks of Burco and Hargeisa ends on one hand. And where the interests of what could be term Somaliland, actually begins. Or whether the "two interests" have any "commonality" between them, much less said about whether they are even are "synonymous" with one another. 

 

Hence, as I said it, out Galbeedi, is logically incoherent, historically illiterate, and politically blind to the reality of where Somaliland (or what could be call modern-day Somaliland) begins and ends on one hand. And where the "calculable interests" of the "middling folks" of the places like, Burco and Hargeisa, actually starts.

 

And this means his argument is essentially nothing more "elevated" (or is actually akin to) what the French call a "Souffle argument", at least, intellectually speaking.

 

And this of course, in turn means, an argument that is from a distance an "eye-catching" sort of discussion, or has the potential to start one of that kind. And yet as you get ever closer to its heart of it, you realize it has nothing but hot-air as a substance to which it seems to be based on. And therefore, one leaves from such discussion fleeing really let down by the sight of the "sleight-of-the-hand" that was pulled at one's expense.

 

But, that is our, Galbeedi, to a tee. Since he is always putting in here of SOL, alluringly eye-catching argument, at least from a distance glance of it. But then closer you get to you begin to have that "sinking feeling", that it actually has no substance behind them, other than the "realization", that it's just our friend from Borama, playing a clever-by-half and sleight-of-hand's verbal tactics with us, yet again.

 

And, this, of course, really is a shame. Since, he really is bright man, who, if only he put the effort into it, could actually come up with a better argument to which to detain the rest of us in here of SOL. Lets hope he shall heed that "friendly admonition" intended for him to really "raise the hell up" his "reasoning game" with the rest of us henceforth.    

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Saalax   

Folks Somaliland will never be recognized anyway.  Secession idea will die down naturally.  Already many of the youth don't even believe in the recognition nonsense after 27 years but see it as a project for politicians to fill their pockets.

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Oodweyne   
8 hours ago, Saalax said:

Folks Somaliland will never be recognized anyway.  Secession idea will die down naturally.  Already many of the youth don't even believe in the recognition nonsense after 27 years but see it as a project for politicians to fill their pockets.

 

 

If that is what floats your boats, my friend, then by all means keep on regurgitating that to yourself. At least as a "soothing mantra" that in turn will lulls you to sleep in most night. While, on the other hand, of course, those of us who have been (at least from the get-go) on the "political wagon" that is this Somaliland's project will be as we always were come rain or sun-shine.  

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Ducale   

Pity,  this is the best way you commemorate the1984 xasuq, and as a unionist. This is the problem with the 'unionist for unity sake'.  It is based on a moral foundation of, tit-for-tat, ( I see your Hargaysa bombing, and raise you, elementary school bombing in boorama).... ku xume iyo qabyaalad driven by irational feelings of hostility desguised as, wadaninimo somali jaceyl and the pursuit of strong united somali government. 

 

 

 

 

 

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galbeedi   

Ducaale,

 

Waxyaabahani waa dhacdooyin raad toos ah ku leh dagaaladii sokeeye iyo masiibooyinkii Somalia ka dhacay intii u dhaxaysey 1983-2003. As a young man, this is probably the first time you ever heard about anyone describing  these horrific crimes of Ethiopia against your neighbors.

 

The Ethiopian war planes did not bomb Borama just because it is a border town, but it was politically motivated bombing to take revenge of the attacks of WSLF (Western Somalia liberation Front).These were some of the horrific events of the Somali civil war where Somali anti government forces targeted innocent people to punish then for their being citizens who did not take part of the insurgency.

 

Yet, you probably never seen any body from that community  in the media arguing to either punish the Somali mercenaries who tipped Ethiopia to do this horrific crime, nor  to use that  event as wedge issue to divide people.

 

Over 300,000 Somalis had died in Bay and inter river area after the warring factions from the Hag and D block overrun them  and took by force their buried dry foods, slaughtered their livestock by force, and even rape them, which in turn  and created a man made drought and disaster that no Somali ever witnesses in history, yet for the people of the South West that was part of the horrific legacies of the collapse of the Somali state. That is some of the reasons people want to have regional government for their survivals during these upheaval times.

 

Being unionist does not stop us from addressing real issues behind the session issue. In different times, and situations, Somaliland had used war between the Somali state and their rebel movement , and the casualties they suffered as the main reason for the session. If you just listen the young reporter interviewing Naima Qorane's father, he kept repeating that , " Somalia Kuwii dadka inaga laayey miyesan ahayn". THe old man told him that wasn't about Somali people but the Somali state and SNM.

 

In other instances, even Edna Aadan made the case of session by just claiming, " Somalia is a land infested with terrorism , warlords and instability". Rayaale also tried to ride the war in the South to gain session. In this case it is about the instability that made her and Somaliland separate. Om other occasions, it is about historic boundaries of the colonial rulers, and how Somaliland was separate entity all along.

 

There are hundred of nations in Africa that were created from 1950 to 1965. Those boundaries founded by those nations are known territorial boundaries of those nations and everyone must respect their territorial integrity. The Kurds tried to use the America invasion and the ensuing civil war to declare unilaterally, yet they were rebuffed immediately. THat is way the republic the was born in 1960 and its boundaries are not changeable.

As I said in these pages, no one is denying the price many of you the SNM community had paid for whatever reasons. Actually, few weeks ago, I was talking to one of these guys, and told me that he has bullet wounds and some of his family members had died for the ultimate price to control their destiny. He even tried to convinced me to lay off this constant talking about  SNM ,and what he and his family considers a real sacrifices. He said, " I do not care and do not want to know how this SNM thing started, but at the end it became a peoples movement.In fact for the greater good of Somalis and your community , I am willing to keep that " Jabhad" thing and work something else if it brings all of us yogather.

 

Personally, I have no hatred of any Somali tribe let alone my neighbors. I am comfortable to sit to any Somali and have a tea. THere was this East Burco friend of mine that I used to have tea from time to time, but since , I told him that , I will be working hard to bring down the Jeegaan, we do not have that nice tea any more, and I understand the reason.

 

I do agree that what brought down the Somali state at the end was the popular uprising of the people from Hargeisa, Burco, Garoowe, Mudug all the way to MOgadishu and KIsmaayo, and we the Somali people have all paid the price in different measures.

 

My argument is nations and people go through wars, civil war, and devastating events, yet they rise up and look to the future. Germany was devastated by two wars, yet today it is one of the richest and advanced country in the world; Japan suffered an atomic bomb by United States, yet today, it is the third largest economy in the world due its economic and strategic relations with the same America that dropped the bomb.Hoe about the people Iraq rising again after couple of million casualties. 

 

We should be those who fall down and refused to rise up again. Waxii dhacay waa taariikh laakiin mustaqbalka aynu ka hadalno. Hadaanu nahay dadka ehelul Immanka ah waxaanu rumaysanhay qof kasta oo dulmi galay aakhiro ayuu bixin doonaa, is cafiskuna waa waxa ugu weyn ee la isa siiyo.

 

Guys, OOdweyne, Suldaanka, and Ducaale, sooner rather than later, a real debate about the past and future should take place among the Somalis everywhere. People want to know why Cigaal , a nation builder who killed thousands of people in Somaliland in order  to create an administration was forgiven in Borama, but a Somali state was wrong to try to keep the second largest city in the nation. from falling to a rebel movement supported by Ethiopia.  Besides, the Somali state, despite the power monopoly of certain tribes, represented legally under international law more legitimacy than than Cigaal or Muuse Biixi could claim.

 

If you look the turn of the century or late nineteenth century, the Somalis were confederate tribes who settled in unique area of the horm. THere were small empires that traded and allied with the ottomans and others, but at the end of the 19th century , they were confederate nomads who roomed their specific area. The only way these Somalis could share and become one people was  through the Somali state.If that Somali state and the brotherhood it brought among us disappears, then as the last century, every tribe must decide its own destiny.

 

If Somaliland separates and accepted by Somalis, then Puntland Jubba Land (Which some even called Azenia) and others must also become states. Why stop there Sool or Khatuno could make its own state.

 

Finally, since the resources of the donors and the tax paid by the public is used to enrich certain tribes as the Jeegaan does, why allow the existence of such entity. Why would I allow you to get rich under my names, and beg you for water, roads and relieve. Why not set up my own fiefdom and get some of the dollars directly from EU and others.

 

Folks, if we could not agree on the formation of institutional based government, rule of law and Somalinimo, then why would i spent my energy to enrich certain tribes. I have no hatred of any tribe, but I do want from time to time to point out the contradictions of the Somaliland project. 

 

Finally, Mr. ducaale, you might not like the Jeegaan, but that does not mean you favor rule of law, transparency and justice. You might only interested to replace the Jeegaan with another similar entity, that is why probably it bothers you the criticism we are levelling on the foundation of the whole project.

 

IT is our duty to challenge this project both on legal, historical and political basis. We have to challenge how to union came in 1960, the legal basis for the sanctity of the international border of the republic, and finally how the devastating effects of the civil war should never be a base for the session.

 

OOdweyne , I respect your opinion and the information you provide , but give us the whole information within the context. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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galbeedi   

Let me  add one more story that is related to the bombing , a warlord named Mohamed Kahin who became the right hand of Muuse Biixi was also part of some of the stories related to the Ethiopian warplane bombing of Somalia. in the middle of eighties, due to the devastating nature of the Borama bombing in January 1984, the Somali state put anti aircraft batteries all around major towns. I remember in Borama they used to sit Buurta Sheekh Cali and the mountains surrounding the city. 

 

The Somali air force had difficulty seeing these fast F-5 jets through radars. Usually they take off from Jijiga and fly low behind the mountains to hide from the Somali radar. Somali gunners usually did not had time to react as these planes start bombing.

 

So, the Somali state became clever and put couple of Somali nomads around Jijiga and other airports these planes take off. As soon the aircraft take off from Jijiga these nomads dial their hand held radio and send the message. Before they show up to these towns, the air force gunners fire their guns and to all directions to trap and hit the planes. When these planes get close they see all these fires in the sky and turn back for fear of being hit.

 

Mohamed Kahin , the man Muuse Biixi appointed the interior minister was working or in charge of the logistics before he joined the rebels. Reliable sources told me that even before he crossed the border he was accused of giving some secrets to Ethiopia and left before he was arrested. After he went to Ethiopia, those men who were radioing the message were captured and executed by ethiopia.

 

So folks, a lot had happened and we the people are willing to forget and forgive for the sake of Soomaalinimo and brotherhood. 

 

 

 

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