Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 17, 2013 Somalis in the past were mistreated very badly killed persecuted, by the Kenyan government and tortured but since reer NFD gave up on independence aspirations things have calmed down in Kenya There is still some mistreated but not on large scale like before. Very sad the story Haatu told us Safferz adeer if one lost a family member we cant control our emotions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted November 17, 2013 Why are people ganging up on Safferz. I agree adoomey is a derogatory term similar to Cabeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted November 17, 2013 Saalax;986435 wrote: Why are people ganging up on Safferz. I agree adoomey is a derogatory term similar to Cabeed. That's the point. It's meant to be derogatory, that's why people use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cadale Posted November 17, 2013 Haatu;986439 wrote: That's the point. It's meant to be derogatory, that's why people use it. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted November 17, 2013 Haatu Those people are enforcing the notion that some Africans are slaves and then when they got to the west they cry if they are called racist terms. So it is best to find more creative terms for your arch enemies in Kenya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted November 17, 2013 Saalax;986452 wrote: Haatu Those people are enforcing the notion that some Africans are slaves and then when they got to the west they cry if they are called racist terms. So it is best to find more creative terms for your arch enemies in Kenya. A real Somali never let's the opinions of others get to him/her. Wallahi i've been called a nigger in real life by a middle aged white lady and I didn't feel anything, nothing at all. Y should i....I'm a Muslim, Somali from a noble clan, alhamdulillah. If it doesn't apply let it fly. If it was a man who called me that, I still wouldn't be offended, but I'd be mad that he attempted to disrespect me, keyword here being 'attempted' lool, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicbird Posted November 18, 2013 Its amusing hearing Somalis say we're Kenyans. Claiming to be the same people who raped your mothers and grandmothers, and continue to bully and make mince meat of your poor Somali brothers and sisters in Somalia and Kenya. That's what a Kenyan means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted November 18, 2013 Despite all this - NFD folks routinely claim 'Kenyan'-ness as opposed to the Somalis in Ethiopia. Maskaxda laga haystaa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted November 18, 2013 One more reason why Somaliweyn platform makes perfect sense. Insha'Allah there will be a time in the near future when the Somali state play its historic role of championing the rights of all Somalis in the region wherever they are. I believe Somalia have a compelling and vested interest in the wellbeing of Somalis in Ethiopia and Kenya. Not to mention economic (water) and security interest in the territories they occupy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cadale Posted November 18, 2013 Baashi;986569 wrote: One more reason why Somaliweyn platform makes perfect sense. Insha'Allah there will be a time in the near future when the Somali state play its historic role of championing the rights of all Somalis in the region wherever they are. I believe Somalia have a compelling and vested interest in the wellbeing of Somalis in Ethiopia and Kenya. Not to mention economic (water) and security interest in the territories they occupy. Well said Brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted November 19, 2013 Illeen Soomaalidu waa dadka caabiidnimada ugu nugul. Kenya waxa ay u gaysatay dadkeena waa uur ku taalo aan la ilaabin karin oo runtii tiiraanyo iyo murugoba igu reebtay. Balse waxa taa igaga daran dadkan dilka,boobka, jidh-dilka iyo kufsiga loo gaystay iyaga iyo dumarkoodaba haddana Kenyaanimo ku ooyaya. Halka ay aar goosasho iyo gobanimo ka fikiri lahaayeen ayay geedka gunnimada hoostii hadhsadeen. Uff!! Wallee inaydaan u qalmin maal iyo naf midna in la idiin huro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 19, 2013 Wadani;986621 wrote: Illeen Soomaalidu waa dadka caabiidnimada ugu nugul. Kenya waxa ay u gaysatay dadkeena waa uur ku taalo aan la ilaabin karin oo runtii tiiraanyo iyo murugoba igu reebtay. Balse waxa taa igaga daran dadkan dilka,boobka, jidh-dilka iyo kufsiga loo gaystay iyaga iyo dumarkoodaba haddana Kenyaanimo ku ooyaya. Halka ay aar goosasho iyo gobanimo ka fikiri lahaayeen ayay geedka gunnimada hoostii hadhsadeen. Uff!! Wallee inaydaan u qalmin maal iyo naf midna in la idiin huro. These people have no one that supports them the reason they were butchered was because they wanted to break away now that they dropped their secession aspirations and integrated into Kenyan society the persecution was minimized even though shabab continues to be a threat and Some Somalis are blamed for what shabaab does. The Kenyan Somalis situation was very difficult in the 60s the Somali republic was a regional player and the Kenyans feared Somalis . Now that the former Somali republic had dropped claiming parts of Kenya parts of Ethiopia and that Somalia and Somaliland went their separate ways. The Kenyan Somalis integrated into the Kenyan Society there is no other option why should they fight to free themselves from Kenya for what to be Killed and harassed they need peace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 19, 2013 Apophis;986624 wrote: The irony makes me laugh. This coming from someone who lives with the white man, holds his passport proudly; the very same white man who did much worse to Somali people, and still does. Plus remember, it was your uncle who sold out the NFD movement to the Kenyan government, leaving the people to be brutally quelled by Kenyatta. Look in the mirror and say "uff", because it's you who rightly deserves it. Waryaa why do you sound like disgruntled African American Somalis killed more Somalis than Europeans killing Somalis , why do Somalis like to blame Europeans Arabs any one but themselves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted November 19, 2013 Apophis;986624 wrote: The irony makes me laugh. This coming from someone who lives with the white man, holds his passport proudly; the very same white man who did much worse to Somali people, and still does. Plus remember, it was your uncle who sold out the NFD movement to the Kenyan government, leaving the people to be brutally quelled by Kenyatta. Look in the mirror and say "uff", because it's you who rightly deserves it. Ur mixing apples with oranges with the white man comparison. When has Canada commited state sactioned atrocities against Somalis on a large scale? And if ur refering to British occupation, u know full the Brits had a light handed Colonial approach and left the wild nomadic clans to their own devices for the most part. As for Ciqaal, I cannot bear the burden for his political misteps on account of sharing the same clan, nor will I overlook look them either for the same reason. It's not their subjugation by a stronger power that I fault my brothers in NFD, it's their unabashed display of stockholm syndrome and pining for acceptance by their 'benevolent' Kikuyu 'masters'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted November 19, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;986631 wrote: These people have no one that supports them the reason they were butchered was because they wanted to break away now that they dropped their secession aspirations and integrated into Kenyan society the persecution was minimized even though shabab continues to be a threat and Some Somalis are blamed for what shabaab does. The Kenyan Somalis situation was very difficult in the 60s the Somali republic was a regional player and the Kenyans feared Somalis . Now that the former Somali republic had dropped claiming parts of Kenya parts of Ethiopia and that Somalia and Somaliland went their separate ways. The Kenyan Somalis integrated into the Kenyan Society there is no other option why should they fight to free themselves from Kenya for what to be Killed and harassed they need peace. If indeed their claims of being Kenyan are nothing more than pragmatic political subterfuge to ward off further massacres from the Kikuyu more power to them, because unfortunately you're right about them not having anyone in their corner. But if they really feel a connection with the same state that has relegated them to a subhuman existence then everything I wrote above applies to them. I will choose to believe that it's as u say it is Xaaji, because I like to believe in the resiliency of Somali pride and identity. To my NFD brothers and sisters I wish u guul iyo gobanimo, and I apologize if I have offended anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites