Kismayo, The Jewel of the South, is Nearing Political Settlement

[Carafaat]

Ilaahay ha u sahlo reerku folks like Xiinfaniin iyo Mooge hogaan uyihiin.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Aamiin.

 

What else Carafaat ? You forgot to cry out 'clan federalism'.

[Carafaat]

Xiin, Ilahay Al Shabaab, Kenyan and Ethiopian settlers ha ka saaro Somalia oo dhan. Now say Amiin with me.

[oba hiloowlow]

xiinfaniin;920394 wrote:

Che, what is wrong with Mooge?

 

 

PS. if Kismayo fails so will Somalia. A note for those who are praying for failure in this thread.

Look at this fool of course the rest of the country will fail too thats what im against qabiil state ma noqdo

[SomaliPhilosopher]

I share Oba's views on federalism. Unfortunately, the constitution, the government, the international community, and even local Somali entities such as Puntland, Somaliland(if we are to be generous), are strong advocates of Federalism. In order for this path to not be taken one of the following must happen:

 

A. The current Somali government collapses:

i. The Somali government collapses with no solid or pleasant alternatives causing this hiatus on war to end. This is an unfavorable out come (Ai)

ii. The Somali government falls from a revolutionary grass-root movement based on solidarity and nationalism (Aii)

 

 

B. The government ratifies the Constitution and its policy on federalism. This will alienate states such as Puntland and even further alienate Somaliland. The international community will not be happy. This is an out likely outcome and may result in result Ai.

[Abwaan]

Jacpher;920379 wrote:

You may disagree with Mooge politics but alleging he is no short of your criminal adeer is disgusting to say the least.

And you want me to beleive that you are not defending your real adeer (Mooge) for being a relative?

[Salahudin]

Jacphar, I thought the H-group soldiers were based in joore, and not the crazy shabaab...

[Carafaat]

SomaliPhilosopher;920401 wrote:

I share Oba's views on federalism. Unfortunately, the constitution, the government, the international community, and even local Somali entities such as Puntland, Somaliland(if we are to be generous), are strong advocates of Federalism. In order for this path to not be taken one of the following must happen:

 

A. The current Somali government collapses:

i. The Somali government collapses with no solid or pleasant alternatives causing this hiatus on war to end. This is an unfavorable out come (Ai)

ii. The Somali government falls from a revolutionary grass-root movement based on solidarity and nationalism (Aii)

 

 

B. The government ratifies the Constitution and its policy on federalism. This will alienate states such as Puntland and even further alienate Somaliland. The international community will not be happy. This is an out likely outcome and may result in result Ai.

Why always drag Somaliland in to discussion about federalisn. Its only a small sub-sub clan from Garowe thay favours Federalism. And they managed to impose it on all other Somalis thanks to Abdiwali, former PM and the failure cslled Sheick Shariif.

[Waranle_Warrior]

^No you are wrong, Actually both Abdiwali and Shariif inherited federalism, it was introduced in 2004. They only approved the constitution (not them technically but the 850 Somali delegates) during the reign and ended the transition.

 

Jacphar, Alshabaab are not in Joore, anything south of Kismayo is clean they are not even in the entire region of Lower Jubba except Jamaame. But they still have bases and control large areas in Middle Jubba, notably Buale and Jilib. Also they control some areas of Gedo.

 

Oba, one thing is for sure it will never fail as long as Unuka and their HAG allies oppose the conference and make noises, that will only embolden the initiative and make them more determined. But if they are let to have their own conference, the Villa and Mogadishu groups keep quiet, then there might be a possibility of disagreements and bickering coming out of the conference. However, Hassan Culusow and Mogadishu interest groups will never stay silent.

[xiinfaniin]

Oba, habaar baa kasoo haray. And look at Carafaat, intaa waa waxbuu sheegaa wuxuu sheegana cid fahamta ilaa hadda lama hayo

 

Ilaahow Kismayo iyo Somaliyaba nabad u keen oo ka dhali. Aamiin.

 

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Kii Abwaan ahaa maantoo waxay kaga dhegtay reer hebel iyo hebel baa adeer kuu ah. Burada ku taal buu u qabaa inay dadkoo dhan ku taallo

[oba hiloowlow]

sxb meel dheer baan wax ka arkaa marbaad ii dhihi doonta oba was right the whole time.

 

Aaamiin to your duco

[Carafaat]

Oba, ha la yaabin Xiin. Meel soke uun wax ka arkaa. Waa 'laangaab' in terms of aragti and vision.

[xiinfaniin]

Carafaat;920482 wrote:

Oba, ha la yaabin Xiin. Meel soke uun wax ka arkaa. Waa '

laangaab

' in terms of aragti and vision.

^^Carafaat masaasaa kuu danbaysay

 

Oba,

 

adeer meel dheer wax kama aragtidi wax kalaad naf la tahay

[Carafaat]

Xiin, dee aragti gaaban ayaa leedahay. Wax kasta qabii yar oo hoose ayaa kusoo koobtay.

[Carafaat]

xiinfaniin;920394 wrote:

Che, what is wrong with Mooge?

 

 

PS. if Kismayo fails so will Somalia. A note for those who are praying for failure in this thread.

Peace in Kismayo wont fail sxb. But clan federalism will.